Which Wolf Lord?

[Brother Caleb]

I've started getting my army together and am about to transition to painting my first pack. However, I have yet to decide on a lord. I'm torn between picking a fluff established lord, like Harald Deathwolf, or creating my own. Knowing how I work, I will inevitably decide to create my own. However, I'm torn between two creative options.

 

Option 1: The Ashwolf. Earned his name from a fight with a pyrovore. Company symbol is yet to be determined. Any suggestions would be helpful.

 

Option 2: Sven Swifthammer. Sven lost his pack in a cunning assault by a deff dread. He took the oath of the lone wolf and chose a thunder hammer and storm shield to fell his prey. Despite the weight of his weapons, he developed a reputation for quickly overwhelming his opponents with a flurry of blows once he gained some momentum. He fulfilled his oath and went on to serve with distinction as a wolf guard. He stood beside his lord, carrying his trusted hammer, against the combined assault of two daemon princes. Together they killed one prince, but the other brought his lord low. He held the remaining prince at bay until reinforcements arrived. Because of this feet of loyalty and strength, he was elected wolf lord. He company symbol is a wolfy hammer, though I'm not sure how to make it wolfy beyond replacing the head of the hammer with a wolf head.

 

Any feedback would be appreciated.

[Brother Caleb]

Sven Ashhammer:

Maybe in killing the deff dread, he struck the fuel supply and the subsequent explosion permanently stained his hammer with ash.

 

Best of both worlds, or just stupid?

[King_Wulfen]

i like opion 2 its sounds really kool back story to a wolf lord.

[Cpt. Lacerus]

Definitely story 2. Seems to work very well. And can I just saw your awesome for using the term "wolfy hammer"?

 

Captain Lacerus

[Hotspur]

I like option two as well. While the tyranids are a fearsome opponent, I think that they are little else but mindless eating machines. The victory against an ork def dread would be much more glorious that than of a victory against a lowly pyrovore; however, if it were some sort of other tyranid beastie, i.e. hive tyrant/swarmlord, carnifex, trygon, etc., that would be epic and saga worthy.

[Demonslayer]

I'm gonna say option 1, because Space Wolves like to be unique and everyone else said option 2

[Brother Caleb]

Definitely story 2. Seems to work very well. And can I just saw your awesome for using the term "wolfy hammer"?

 

Captain Lacerus

Any suggestions on what a wolfy hammer looks like?

[Hotspur]

Any suggestions on what a wolfy hammer looks like?

 

You could do something like the giant battering ram (Grond: Hammer of the Underworld) in the third installment of the Lord of the Rings (Return of the King) movies, albeit on a smaller scale. You could make the front of the hammer the head out of a wolf head pressed onto its paws, and the back of the hammer with the legs and tail pressed together as if the wolf was leaping. In the middle, you'd have to come up with some way to tie them together in an aesthetically pleasing way, but I think you understand what I'm saying.

 

Wolf up the haft and handle a bit, and you're all set! ;)

[spjaco]

I would say add a wolf tail or some other bit that gives the impression of being "wolfy."

[Brother Caleb]

Any suggestions on what a wolfy hammer looks like?

 

You could do something like the giant battering ram (Grond: Hammer of the Underworld) in the third installment of the Lord of the Rings (Return of the King) movies, albeit on a smaller scale. You could make the front of the hammer the head out of a wolf head pressed onto its paws, and the back of the hammer with the legs and tail pressed together as if the wolf was leaping. In the middle, you'd have to come up with some way to tie them together in an aesthetically pleasing way, but I think you understand what I'm saying.

 

Wolf up the haft and handle a bit, and you're all set! ;)

Are you talking about the front and back of the hammer's head? If not, I'm confused. If so, I like it.

[Skirax]

I'm gonna say option 1, because Space Wolves like to be unique and everyone else said option 2

Made of win ;)

[Brother Caleb]

I'm gonna say option 1, because Space Wolves like to be unique and everyone else said option 2

Made of win ;)

Truth.

[Brother Caleb]

Sven Swifthammer, Part 2:

 

After taking command of his great company, he still felt isolated. When at the Fang, he spent most of his time hunting alone. Eventually, he decided to wonder into known thunderwolf territory and see what he could stir up. He was not disappointed. A mighty black thunderwolf challenged him in the night. They fought till dawn, at which point Sven landed a direct hit to the wolf's head. It stumbled back, clearly wounded, but did not fall. Sven had never met a foe, excluding the daemon prince that killed his lord, that survived such a blow. He saw no need to slay such a mighty wolf. Instead, he broke the beast. Since then, he has rode the wolf into bloody combat. This has done wonders to lighten Sven's psychological isolation, allowing him to be jovial at times.

 

Swifthammer's men speak of a special bond the two brutes share. This is shown by the fact that the wolf always accompanies his master, even to feasts and celebrations. This has created some distance between Sven and most of his men, because in most cases only other thunderwolf riders dare approach such powerful beast. This situations appears to elevate the thunderwolf riders even further above their other brethren, and seems to spur wolf guard from this company to tame their own mounts. This is a double edge sword for Swifthammer, causing his company to have the highest hunting mortality rates, but providing an above average amount of cavalry.

 

Though Sven never named his steed, his men affectionately call the giant wolf "Rhino" because he is known to slam into the side of the company's APC of the same name as he carries his master across the battlefield. Further, he often hurls himself at the enemy, including its transport, apparently attempting to give greater force to his master's mighty hammer.

 

I'm torn between Saga of the Bear or Warrior Born. He held up against a daemon prince, but his name comes from his abilities with his hammer, that is, once he gets going.

 

Thoughts?

[fivepointedstar]

here's my idea for the "wolfy" hammer.

 

1.get the wolf head from space wolf sprue. (the one thats wolf-like)

2. cut the bottom part that goes into the torso.

3. then place circlular part of neck that you just cut to the head of hammer neck part.. (it's the hammer is flat the part that does the buisness i mean).

4. then glue the head to the hammer top, with wolf nose facing down and its a master crafted hammer that looks like a "wolfy" head-butting the enemy.

5.Sven would then be the coolest wolf around.

 

anything else i could help with let me know

[Brother Caleb]

here's my idea for the "wolfy" hammer.

 

1.get the wolf head from space wolf sprue. (the one thats wolf-like)

2. cut the bottom part that goes into the torso.

3. then place circlular part of neck that you just cut to the head of hammer neck part.. (it's the hammer is flat the part that does the buisness i mean).

4. then glue the head to the hammer top, with wolf nose facing down and its a master crafted hammer that looks like a "wolfy" head-butting the enemy.

5.Sven would then be the coolest wolf around.

 

anything else i could help with let me know

That's a great idea! Sven sends his appreciation. Though, I don't quite understand where the circular neck piece goes.

 

However, the wolfy hammer I originally spoke of was intended to be his company crest for the army's collective left shoulder. Any thoughts on how to paint up a wolfy hammer as the company symbol?

[Brother Caleb]

Perhaps something like this, though I'm not sure I have the skill to produce it.

 

http://www.7six2.co.uk/products/Thors%20hammer%20snake%20front.jpg

 

Or this.

http://www.7six2.co.uk/products/Thors%20hammer%20celtic%20front.jpg

 

Now that I look at them, I like the head on the top of the first one and the design on the face of the second. I might be able to produce a stylized symbol similar to this.

 

Thoughts?

[Wysten]

It sound like Saga of the warrior is most suit worthy, he slain a Demon Prince and stood his own against the other (one on one combat? Though even if he did not, killing a demon prince is worthy of being nominated for Lord Wolf) and slain a Ork Dreadnort. His greatest achievements seem to be slaying rather then exceptional endurance. Though I imagine he must have great endurance to resist long enough to bring his immense strength to bare. Always imagined all Wolf Hammer users to be enduring fellows while those with power/frost/claws being Warriors, carving up many.

 

Never considered Saga of the Beast Slayer though? Sounds pretty opprate considering the fact that his greatest achievements are slaying beasts and demons.

[Brother Caleb]

It sound like Saga of the warrior is most suit worthy, he slain a Demon Prince and stood his own against the other (one on one combat? Though even if he did not, killing a demon prince is worthy of being nominated for Lord Wolf) and slain a Ork Dreadnort. His greatest achievements seem to be slaying rather then exceptional endurance. Though I imagine he must have great endurance to resist long enough to bring his immense strength to bare. Always imagined all Wolf Hammer users to be enduring fellows while those with power/frost/claws being Warriors, carving up many.

 

Never considered Saga of the Beast Slayer though? Sounds pretty opprate considering the fact that his greatest achievements are slaying beasts and demons.

I hadn't considered Beast Slayer. It fits too. I'm still leaning on one of the other two, mostly Warrior Born because his name kind of causes you to expect it. However, fundamentally, his story is characterized by surviving when others don't. Further, he was a lone wolf which reasonably implies his survivability and beast slaying talents. Fluff aside, I tend to want to give him Bear because I would hate for my 200+ WL to get instakilled. But, with a T5, thanks to Rhino, very few weapons/models will have the ability to strike him down. Further, when those weapons/models show up, I will most likely attempt to put them down at range.

[Wysten]

It sound like Saga of the warrior is most suit worthy, he slain a Demon Prince and stood his own against the other (one on one combat? Though even if he did not, killing a demon prince is worthy of being nominated for Lord Wolf) and slain a Ork Dreadnort. His greatest achievements seem to be slaying rather then exceptional endurance. Though I imagine he must have great endurance to resist long enough to bring his immense strength to bare. Always imagined all Wolf Hammer users to be enduring fellows while those with power/frost/claws being Warriors, carving up many.

 

Never considered Saga of the Beast Slayer though? Sounds pretty opprate considering the fact that his greatest achievements are slaying beasts and demons.

I hadn't considered Beast Slayer. It fits too. I'm still leaning on one of the other two, mostly Warrior Born because his name kind of causes you to expect it. However, fundamentally, his story is characterized by surviving when others don't. Further, he was a lone wolf which reasonably implies his survivability and beast slaying talents. Fluff aside, I tend to want to give him Bear because I would hate for my 200+ WL to get instakilled. But, with a T5, thanks to Rhino, very few weapons/models will have the ability to strike him down. Further, when those weapons/models show up, I will most likely attempt to put them down at range.

 

Depends what exactly you want him to do.

 

If you want him to be a warrior who slays tons of infintry, then Warrior. Though thus far his saga has not really charcterised him towards that. Though fairly likely to be used as you will instant kill anyone he wounds I imagine. If he can survice two assualt of going last, this could be for him.

 

Bear fits because he survied where others had not. If your pitting him against other HQ's of high strength then this is worth noting, otherwise may not be worth taking.

 

Beastslayer fits because he's often fights creatures of immense size. He is warrior born because he slays immense creatures. Don't get much more powerful then single handiledly bringing down extremely capable foes. Plus this saga is 20 points less then the others. Though then again, also less likely to survive the real behemoths.

[Brother Caleb]

It sound like Saga of the warrior is most suit worthy, he slain a Demon Prince and stood his own against the other (one on one combat? Though even if he did not, killing a demon prince is worthy of being nominated for Lord Wolf) and slain a Ork Dreadnort. His greatest achievements seem to be slaying rather then exceptional endurance. Though I imagine he must have great endurance to resist long enough to bring his immense strength to bare. Always imagined all Wolf Hammer users to be enduring fellows while those with power/frost/claws being Warriors, carving up many.

 

Never considered Saga of the Beast Slayer though? Sounds pretty opprate considering the fact that his greatest achievements are slaying beasts and demons.

I hadn't considered Beast Slayer. It fits too. I'm still leaning on one of the other two, mostly Warrior Born because his name kind of causes you to expect it. However, fundamentally, his story is characterized by surviving when others don't. Further, he was a lone wolf which reasonably implies his survivability and beast slaying talents. Fluff aside, I tend to want to give him Bear because I would hate for my 200+ WL to get instakilled. But, with a T5, thanks to Rhino, very few weapons/models will have the ability to strike him down. Further, when those weapons/models show up, I will most likely attempt to put them down at range.

 

Depends what exactly you want him to do.

 

If you want him to be a warrior who slays tons of infintry, then Warrior. Though thus far his saga has not really charcterised him towards that. Though fairly likely to be used as you will instant kill anyone he wounds I imagine. If he can survice two assualt of going last, this could be for him.

 

Bear fits because he survied where others had not. If your pitting him against other HQ's of high strength then this is worth noting, otherwise may not be worth taking.

 

Beastslayer fits because he's often fights creatures of immense size. He is warrior born because he slays immense creatures. Don't get much more powerful then single handiledly bringing down extremely capable foes. Plus this saga is 20 points less then the others. Though then again, also less likely to survive the real behemoths.

You make good points. However, by saying, "Despite the weight of his weapons, he developed a reputation for quickly overwhelming his opponents with a flurry of blows once he gained some momentum," I intended to leave space for Warrior Born. Essentially, he gets faster as the fight goes on, thus more attacks based on his kills seemed appropriate.

 

On the other hand, as you have said this is a minor element to his saga. I should play this up more if I want to go with Warrior Born. Further, his name could refer to his ability to quickly get to his target and strike hard. Perhaps, I'm putting too much emphasis on the name, or it simply needs to be changed to something more sturdy or beast slayer-esque.

[Cpt. Lacerus]

I have a thought for your story behind Sven. What I am about to tell you is partly driven by I love Space Wolf fluff but I hate they ride the wolves into battle. I think it would be MUCH better and more appealling if they just fought alongside them after earning their respect. So, I think in his fluff instead of riding him into battle, Rhino is just always fighting at his side because in Svens eyes riding the wolves degrades them and he does not encourage any in his company to ride the wolves they break but to keep them as true battle-brothers they can fight alongside. Thoughts? Just throwing it out there.

 

Captain Lacerus

[The Thirst]

After taking command of his great company, he still felt isolated. When at the Fang, he spent most of his time hunting alone. Eventually, he decided to wonder into known thunderwolf territory and see what he could stir up. He was not disappointed. A mighty black thunderwolf challenged him in the night. They fought till dawn, at which point Sven landed a direct hit to the wolf's head. It stumbled back, clearly wounded, but did not fall. Sven had never met a foe, excluding the daemon prince that killed his lord, that survived such a blow. He saw no need to slay such a mighty wolf. Instead, he broke the beast. Since then, he has rode the wolf into bloody combat. This has done wonders to lighten Sven's psychological isolation, allowing him to be jovial at times.

 

 

 

Thoughts?

 

for the thunderwolf complying with the fluff paint it black maybe light drybrush of codex grey?

also (DRAWING INSPIRATION FROM LoTD HERE!) have part of Rhino'S skull showing?

[Brother Caleb]

I have a thought for your story behind Sven. What I am about to tell you is partly driven by I love Space Wolf fluff but I hate they ride the wolves into battle. I think it would be MUCH better and more appealling if they just fought alongside them after earning their respect. So, I think in his fluff instead of riding him into battle, Rhino is just always fighting at his side because in Svens eyes riding the wolves degrades them and he does not encourage any in his company to ride the wolves they break but to keep them as true battle-brothers they can fight alongside. Thoughts? Just throwing it out there.

 

Captain Lacerus

Interesting. It's a nice counter mentality. However, I'm a fan of the cavalry aspect. Perhaps you should run with it. I'd like to see what you come up with.

 

After taking command of his great company, he still felt isolated. When at the Fang, he spent most of his time hunting alone. Eventually, he decided to wonder into known thunderwolf territory and see what he could stir up. He was not disappointed. A mighty black thunderwolf challenged him in the night. They fought till dawn, at which point Sven landed a direct hit to the wolf's head. It stumbled back, clearly wounded, but did not fall. Sven had never met a foe, excluding the daemon prince that killed his lord, that survived such a blow. He saw no need to slay such a mighty wolf. Instead, he broke the beast. Since then, he has rode the wolf into bloody combat. This has done wonders to lighten Sven's psychological isolation, allowing him to be jovial at times.

 

 

 

Thoughts?

 

for the thunderwolf complying with the fluff paint it black maybe light drybrush of codex grey?

also (DRAWING INSPIRATION FROM LoTD HERE!) have part of Rhino'S skull showing?

I didn't know there existed a fluff approved color. Thanks for the info. Is that on the TWC description page?

[The Thirst]

I have a thought for your story behind Sven. What I am about to tell you is partly driven by I love Space Wolf fluff but I hate they ride the wolves into battle. I think it would be MUCH better and more appealling if they just fought alongside them after earning their respect. So, I think in his fluff instead of riding him into battle, Rhino is just always fighting at his side because in Svens eyes riding the wolves degrades them and he does not encourage any in his company to ride the wolves they break but to keep them as true battle-brothers they can fight alongside. Thoughts? Just throwing it out there.

 

Captain Lacerus

:o !WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU! :o

 

TWC make for excellent fluff as it stands i mean they're like the SW version of the A-Team always absent from Imperial Records and the A-Team intro suits them!

 

=in M41 A crack commando unit was sent to prison by the high lods of terra for a heresy they didnt commit,these men (and wolves!) promptly escaped a maximum security prison world to the Fang.

 

to this day they survive as space marines of fortune. if you have a problem (eg.heretical uprising,Tyranid Invasion)if no other chapter can help and if Grimnar can be bothered helping you maybe you can hire THE THUNDERWOLF CAVALRY!

[The Thirst]

I didn't know there existed a fluff approved color. Thanks for the info. Is that on the TWC description page?

no in your fluff you said "A great black wolf challenged him" :o