Krablauch Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 Hello everyone. I am just wanting to clarify rulings regarding the battle standard. To my reading, you get to re-roll your ones ( 1 time per phase) for EACH to hit, to wound, and armor saves correct? Had an issue with that last turney and there is one tomorrow I just wanted to make sure. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/206588-wolf-standards/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spazmonkey Posted July 17, 2010 Share Posted July 17, 2010 No not 1 time per phase. 1 assault phase, once during the game. you may re roll any ones you get during an assault phase you declare the standard is in use for, as long as you declare it before the assault phase begins. basically any roll made during that phase, no matter what it is for may be re rolled. (May, means you get to pick and choose, you do not have to re roll if you choose not to) But you can not re roll and ones that are the result of a re-roll. once used it can not be used again for that game... Awesome for 10 points always makes its points, if it saves one Gray Hunter then its worth it.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/206588-wolf-standards/#findComment-2464732 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted July 17, 2010 Share Posted July 17, 2010 Hello everyone. I am just wanting to clarify rulings regarding the battle standard. To my reading, you get to re-roll your ones ( 1 time per phase) for EACH to hit, to wound, and armor saves correct? Had an issue with that last turney and there is one tomorrow I just wanted to make sure. Just do a search for "+Wolf +Standard", the full list for what can be rerolled has been discussed several times. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/206588-wolf-standards/#findComment-2464774 Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinkenheim Posted July 17, 2010 Share Posted July 17, 2010 Difficult Terrain Tests Dangerous Terrain Rolls To Hits To Wounds Armour/Invulnerable Saves Random Attacks for Mark of the Wulfen Sweeping Advance Consolodation Fall Back Ragnar's D3 Attacks (assuming you have him) The only thing you can't use it for are Leadership/Morale tests as yo can never score 1 on those (you add both dicetogether so the lowest you get is 2). You can declare its use once per game. It will hen work in the next assault phase (if you declare it when you get charged it won't worj until your turn). You can then re-roll any dice from the list above, so if I roll all 1's to hit and wound I can re-roll every single one of those dice. Obviously you can only re-roll each dice once as you can never re-roll a re-roll. Any model in the unit is effected too, so ICs still gain all the bonuses making TDA/Runi Armour almost impervious to any normal attack. Think thats it.... +EDIT+ put in wulfen attacks... knew i would forget something Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/206588-wolf-standards/#findComment-2464924 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CainTheHunter Posted July 17, 2010 Share Posted July 17, 2010 And also number of attacks on Mark of the Wulfen models. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/206588-wolf-standards/#findComment-2465216 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godhead Posted July 17, 2010 Share Posted July 17, 2010 I love wolf standards. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/206588-wolf-standards/#findComment-2465388 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spjaco Posted July 18, 2010 Share Posted July 18, 2010 Gonna field mine for the first time tommorrow. Gonna be fun. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/206588-wolf-standards/#findComment-2465493 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Wilhelm Posted July 18, 2010 Share Posted July 18, 2010 Modelling-wise, I think the Dwarf range has yummy Banners that tie into a SW theme. Some of the Chaos ones, like Marauders and Beastmen, also. <_< Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/206588-wolf-standards/#findComment-2465526 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coverfire Posted July 18, 2010 Share Posted July 18, 2010 And also number of attacks on Mark of the Wulfen models. Are you sure about this? It doesn't work for Leadership tests because two 1's would equal 2; (and because to do so would be silly) But the Mark of the Wulfen Roll equals 1D6+1 so doesn't a roll of a 1 equal 2? I haven't played it as either as it has never arisen, but I have been meaning to ask. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/206588-wolf-standards/#findComment-2465563 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmk17 Posted July 18, 2010 Share Posted July 18, 2010 Stink has it completely listed out up above, Cover. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/206588-wolf-standards/#findComment-2465566 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simo429 Posted July 18, 2010 Share Posted July 18, 2010 Its a roll of one not a total of one so you can use it for any one rolled in the assault phase You wouldn't use it for Leadership because you want the lowest number possible but I suppose there is nothing to stop you doing it Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/206588-wolf-standards/#findComment-2465580 Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinkenheim Posted July 18, 2010 Share Posted July 18, 2010 The FAQ specifically mentioned Leadership tests and Wolf Standards. The reason being that the lowest you could get was 2, ot 1 so therefore you could not re-oll it. There was no mention of Wulfen attacks in it so I am assuming that it is fine to re-roll them. I also assume, rightly or wrongly, that with Ragnars D3 attacks it would be a result of 1 or 2 that you could re-roll as either are actually results of a 1 on a D3. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/206588-wolf-standards/#findComment-2465594 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CainTheHunter Posted July 18, 2010 Share Posted July 18, 2010 With WS You get to re-roll "any DICE rolls of a 1". Sine You have to roll d6 in order to obtain Your number of attacks for Mark this turn, it perfectly comes under the same ruling. Since You HAVE TO ROLL a dice for Your mark and if it has "1" then You get the re-roll for standard. All other +/- modificators really are of no relevance here. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/206588-wolf-standards/#findComment-2465598 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coverfire Posted July 18, 2010 Share Posted July 18, 2010 With WS You get to re-roll "any DICE rolls of a 1". Sine You have to roll d6 in order to obtain Your number of attacks for Mark this turn, it perfectly comes under the same ruling. Since You HAVE TO ROLL a dice for Your mark and if it has "1" then You get the re-roll for standard. All other +/- modificators really are of no relevance here. But is the roll D6+1 or is the roll D6 with +1 to the result. Personally, I could take it either way. It doesn't bother me that much. But if you're willing to accept that Ragnar's insane Bravado (being a d3) re-rolls on a 1 or a 2 then, you could accept that the Mark of the Wulfen is a minimum result of 2 and therefore you get no re-roll. Think of it less than being an annoying pain in the ass and more gathering status quo and arguments for... In case I come across another pain in the ass. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/206588-wolf-standards/#findComment-2465614 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simo429 Posted July 18, 2010 Share Posted July 18, 2010 Personally I don't think it would ever come up with Ragnar because I only run him with blood claws Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/206588-wolf-standards/#findComment-2465629 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CainTheHunter Posted July 18, 2010 Share Posted July 18, 2010 Actually, the FAQ part about leadership is a bit weird to me, since You actually are rolling two d6 dices, so why doesn't it come under "any" is outside of my scope of comprehension B). But also I see that such Ld rolls would not be necessary, since You normally do not want to re-roll those "1" on LD tests - in most cases we'd rather wish to re-roll those "5" or "6" messing things up - but WS would not be of any help here. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/206588-wolf-standards/#findComment-2465637 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Wilhelm Posted July 18, 2010 Share Posted July 18, 2010 But is the roll D6+1 or is the roll D6 with +1 to the result. Personally, I could take it either way. It doesn't bother me that much. But if you're willing to accept that Ragnar's insane Bravado (being a d3) re-rolls on a 1 or a 2 then, you could accept that the Mark of the Wulfen is a minimum result of 2 and therefore you get no re-roll. It is still a single dice being rolled. Even though you add one to the result, you are just rolling one dice. I can't see why MotW would not be re-rollable. The dice cannot not roll a one - if you catch my drift. Adding a one to the result doesn't change what was rolled. Though it is very gentlemanly of you to defer that. Rag's roll also gets re-rolled on a one or two. When you have a proper d3, 2 of the 6 sides have a 1 on it. A third of a d3's results must be a one. The WS affects both of them. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/206588-wolf-standards/#findComment-2465694 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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