Razorback Turret-Mounted Weapons

[greendestiny]

The Razorback has two turret options that it doesn't come with LC&TLPG's & TWF. In a modeling sense how do you represent these options and when tactically would they be useful?

[Montuhotep]

In a modelling sense I've seen both done rather well - if you'll drop me a PM with your email address in it I'll share some pics I've been meaning to emulate.

[greendestiny]

Okay I built one last night but haven't painted it or cleaned up a few little things and added green stuff here and there. Please share your comments.

 

Will have pics in a few

[greendestiny]

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x277/greendestiny_bucket/CIMG1761.jpg

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x277/greendestiny_bucket/CIMG1763.jpg

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x277/greendestiny_bucket/CIMG1762.jpg

 

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x277/greendestiny_bucket/CIMG1760.jpg

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x277/greendestiny_bucket/CIMG1759.jpg

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x277/greendestiny_bucket/CIMG1758.jpg

[greendestiny]

I know it is supposed to be a twin linked Plasma gun not a cannon but I felt this represented a turret mounted weapon better than the standard size plasma guns that just look too small and week.

 

My concept behind it is that it is larger more sophisticated tech improving it's accuracy rather than just having two guns giving you a reroll.

[njm3]

The first edition r-back came with that weapons load-out... could just use the piece from that set (although it requires some sawing since it is all metal).

 

http://www.solegends.com/citcat94/cat1994110-03.htm

[greendestiny]

I looked at the original and it is cool but hard to get a hold of. Also I really want the plasma gun to be more than the little hand held version.

[Hubernator]

Well using common sense I'd think that you;d need 2 of the plasma guns to make the twin-plas/las option which I'm also trying to do. What's the best way of attaching them?

[DeepDarkSecret]

I did these about 6-7 years ago and did kinda sloppy but you can use I just used the Lascannon and the the hb up a little and a lascannon put them together and glued plasma pistol tips on the end.

 

http://i53.tinypic.com/2ryhee0.jpg

[Calgar 2.0]

Here's a good post of an awesome conversion.

 

http://www.lounge.belloflostsouls.net/show...Style+Razorback

[greendestiny]

That is a pretty cool conversion! I like to see people do thier own rendition of items, it gives them a more uniquie feel in my opinion.

[blackbabyjesus]

Here's how I do mine, the plasma guns are just standard plasma guns chopped down to the end of the 'coil' part on the top, and fitted into the razorback lascannon part. I chop the barrel of the lascannon off and most of the support underneath. Takes a bit of filing to get the parts to fit snugly but it's a 20 minute conversion at most.

[zeroeightfive]

Here's how I do mine, the plasma guns are just standard plasma guns chopped down to the end of the 'coil' part on the top, and fitted into the razorback lascannon part. I chop the barrel of the lascannon off and most of the support underneath. Takes a bit of filing to get the parts to fit snugly but it's a 20 minute conversion at most.

this is by far my favourite double plasma/lascannon conversion. A+

[silverneil]

Start with These:

Chop bits of 2 Plasma guns, file flat the two mating sides and glue together, file flat bottom and rear faces. Drill 2mm hole and pop in 2mm magnet (use superglue, careful mind!!)

Cut Las cannon down last groove as shown as shown

And 2 lower horizontal connections to end up with this.File flat and square all mating faces

Drill and glue in magnet as shown. This single magnet will hold the Las cannon barrel no probs.

Stick a further magnet in down the horizontal support as shown if desired. (gives a bit more stability for plasma guns)

Put a magnet in the barrel connecting face. And you have a TLLC loadout

Pop the Plasma Guns on and you have a different load out

Closer view

[The Normish]

I notice everyone's putting the two plasma guns to one side... Has no one tried converting the plasma guns on either side of the lascannon, like on that Mk. Razorback? With recent bitz, I mean.

[Hubernator]

silverneil, your tutorial is most helpful. With a few tweaks I can get one like blackbabyjesus. Awesome conversions so far :)

[glsn]

I'm planning on doing one that is just two Plasmaguns on either side of an Icarus Lascannon, with tubing leading from the Plasmaguns into the under part of the Icarus. I've also made a TL Assault Cannon top by cutting up the quad gun mount from the Defence Line kit and attaching the TL Assault Cannons from the Ravenwing box set. I'll get pictures up when I can.

[AJB2K3]

I have the original MKI stronus pattern turret (paid £1) just missing one of the half circle doors.

[farseerixirvost]

any opinion on if the twin plasmaguns have to be mounted with the lascannon? Or would it be possible/OK to do a single lascannon with the twin PG mounted on the cupola in place of where the rhino storm bolter goes?

 

On the one hand, I can see folks thinking that's a cheesy way of getting a couple extra inches on the range of the TPG. On the other hand, the recent FAQs do indicate the LC and TPG are separate weapons.

[Ebsolom]

any opinion on if the twin plasmaguns have to be mounted with the lascannon? Or would it be possible/OK to do a single lascannon with the twin PG mounted on the cupola in place of where the rhino storm bolter goes?

 

On the one hand, I can see folks thinking that's a cheesy way of getting a couple extra inches on the range of the TPG. On the other hand, the recent FAQs do indicate the LC and TPG are separate weapons.

 

It states they are seperate weapons for the purpose of determining "Weapon Destroyed" results on the damage table. If you read the entry for a Razorback on page 77 of Codex SM it says "...sacrifices a portion of it's transport capacity for turret-mounted armament, normally a Twin-linked Lascannon or Heavy Bolter". In the army lits on page 135 under Dedicated Transports in the Options you may replace TL Hvy Bolters with...

 

It specifically states the weapon system is turret mounted. I've seen one guy on the BoLS website that mounted the Plasma guns in the cupola for the extra "cheesy" couple of inches (if that). Man, did he come under some flak :) Looks crap in my opinion.

[El_Skirvo]

Here's the conversion unpainted I did recently, not that I did it for "extra inches" just wanted the convenience of taking one or the other weapon off. The thought of it having a game effect didn't really occur to me. I'll get some pics of it painted up later if I can, I think it came out pretty well. Wasn't using those Ironclad HK missle shrouds anyway!

 

http://is100.imagesocket.com/thumbs/2011/02/22/2jpgw4no.jpg

 

http://is100.imagesocket.com/thumbs/2011/02/22/7jpghu39.jpg

 

http://is100.imagesocket.com/thumbs/2011/02/22/9jpgk0u5.jpg

 

Looks even better painted. So would the extra couple inches upset someone if I put it on a table?

[greendestiny]

For fairness sake you could just measure from the end of the Lascannon for shots from either gun. The athstetics shouldn't cause you any game challenges.

[EmbattledSoul]

could you not use some gs and a pintle mount? in the most recent faq its 2 separate weapons.

 

(i see this has already been answered lol)

[chromedog]

I used a pair of old plasma cannons (NO SM tank can have them, so it shouldn't be too confusing for the numpties) and an old lascannon for mine.

With the lascannon centre mounted, just like the original.

 

As for the TLHF, I used the heavy flamers off the SoB immolator kit. The weapon mounts fit on the razorback turret mounts.

I was alternating immolators and razorbacks at one stage, just to get weapons.

[DapperDave]

Here's mine, similar to El_Skirvo's:

 

http://plasticspaceguys.com/uploads/razorback%20conversion.jpg