Brother Martemis Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 Hi guys! first foray into the whole concept of a homegrown chapter Ladies and Gentlemen (and mods) i give you..... The World Burners colours are charcoal grey, with bronze and blue 'bits' can't post up chapter badge at mo, but have one, imagine a black disk sillohette with the 12->4 points (so top right quadrant) broken up and splitting away - with a fiery explosion centred on that point... (or wait for the pic ;) ) a lot of this is still heavilly WIP but this is what i want, trying to flesh it out FLUFF near Ork space fleet based, now homeworld destroyed (or as good as) when ork space hulk crashed into it/exploded in low orbit (lots of warp drives in a space hulk), as such, hatred towards orks. specialise in 'assasinations' and hit and run attacks - conducting hit and run assaults into ork territory, although fleet based, still stick to the same galactic areas. large number of thunderhawks (only sternguard and dreadnoughts use drop pods) - dont know about tanks, probably transports, but not many preds, vindis or whirlwinds roman gladitorial inspiration (not been watching spartacus, honest :D ) some inquisitors are concerned with thier behaviour (seem to escew ranged warfare for close combat) and gravitate towards the greatest warriors of the chapter, so do not adhere to the codex (so are becoming more like the Orks they hate) - other inquisitors want to keep them protected from detractors as they are becoming experts on Orks (psychology, technology, tactics etc). good history within the deathwatch RULES will counts as space wolves (gives me the option for 'lions' and whatnot :-D) please be gentle, i know you'll be fair Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/206821-the-blades-edge/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
RagingGriffon Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 What I like: - Loathe Orks, but they are becoming like them - Nomadic, searching for Orks - How the homeworld was destroyed (however, how did the Chapter survive this cataclysm?) What I don't like: - "near Ork space" everywhere is near Ork Space. They are vermin and they are everywhere. - "specialise in 'assasinations'" Astartes don't assassinate. They kick in the door, smash everyone's face in, and if they kill the leader as well... awesome. - "roman gladitorial inspiration" Meh... doesn't really fit with the other themes. - "large number of thunderhawks (only sternguard and dreadnoughts use drop pods)" Why and how? - The name doesn't do anything for me. Sorry. What I REALLY don't like: - "will counts as space wolves (gives me the option for 'lions' and whatnot :-D)" Ignore rules when you are making your Liber submission. It will only hinder you. Also, I hate "Count As." There is only one Chapter that has Space Wolf rules, and that is Space Wolves. They have no successors. They are Space Wolves. Period. Dot. End of Story. Other than that... as mentioned, you have some bullet points and I pointed out how I felt about them and a little blurb about each. Good luck and welcome to the Liber! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/206821-the-blades-edge/#findComment-2467320 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Martemis Posted July 20, 2010 Author Share Posted July 20, 2010 What I like: - Loathe Orks, but they are becoming like them - Nomadic, searching for Orks - How the homeworld was destroyed (however, how did the Chapter survive this cataclysm?) glad this sits well - as for the survival, working on that, torn betweenworld decimated by a crashing space hulk and poluted to beyond use OR planet ripped apart by warp core explosions/implosions of the craft that made up the hulk - story to come What I don't like: - "near Ork space" everywhere is near Ork Space. They are vermin and they are everywhere. - "specialise in 'assasinations'" Astartes don't assassinate. They kick in the door, smash everyone's face in, and if they kill the leader as well... awesome. - "roman gladitorial inspiration" Meh... doesn't really fit with the other themes. - "large number of thunderhawks (only sternguard and dreadnoughts use drop pods)" Why and how? - The name doesn't do anything for me. Sorry. okay, will use the 'nomadic' theme more. they travel the stars wiping out Ork settlements/empires, scrap the assasination thing, rather than being the spear-tip, they are the blade's edge.... gonna stick with the gladitorial influences, more for modelling reasons and the whole 'being more like orks than they care to admit' thing as they would train by fighing each other in single and squad level combat, with rumours (maybe) of captured Orks being used in fighting pits on the ships... scrapping the thunderhawks, i think i just liked the idea of thunderhawks overhead with marines in thier hundreds jumping out, but might have a high number of dreadnaughts, the World Burners seek to overcome all challenges for the honour of the chapter, and being defeated in single combat shames the marine and the chapter, rather than accept the caress of death, they would seek to be entombed within a dreadnought and seek to best what defeated them - a whole "death only makes me stronger" mentality, until death makes the, well; dead. What I REALLY don't like: - "will counts as space wolves (gives me the option for 'lions' and whatnot :-D)" Ignore rules when you are making your Liber submission. It will only hinder you. Also, I hate "Count As." There is only one Chapter that has Space Wolf rules, and that is Space Wolves. They have no successors. They are Space Wolves. Period. Dot. End of Story. fair enough, to be fair, the playing side of the game doesn't really exist for me anymore, but if the army gets completed (bit of a magpie gamer me like) i'd want to know it could work, if i got the chance Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/206821-the-blades-edge/#findComment-2467396 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Hunter Ydalir Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 My advice is to scrap the 'Roman Gladiatorial' part and go more for 'pit fighters'. The former are a motley collection of slaves, some fighers some not who are told to go out and die to entertain the crowd. The latter are a bunch of tough bastards who fight because they enjoy it. RG is right when he said that the roman influence isn't gelling, because it isn't. gonna stick with the gladitorial influences, more for modelling reasons and the whole 'being more like orks than they care to admit' thing Justifying it with training in one-on-one combat isn't a strong enough motivator to drive an entire culture. Not in the way you're describing it anyway. It's a pity, because the fact that they were becoming like that which they focus all their life's work on, was great. glad this sits well - as for the survival, working on that, torn betweenworld decimated by a crashing space hulk and poluted to beyond use OR planet ripped apart by warp core explosions/implosions of the craft that made up the hulk - story to come I like the crashing space-hulk and ruining of the planet, it's far less clichéd than your typical 'the world was obliterated'. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/206821-the-blades-edge/#findComment-2467536 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RagingGriffon Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 I just want to add that I really like the, "captured Orks being used in fighting pits on the ships..." Your guys can really turn out to be Loyalists... but very twisted individuals. Listen to GHY. He is very wise! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/206821-the-blades-edge/#findComment-2467572 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Martemis Posted July 20, 2010 Author Share Posted July 20, 2010 My advice is to scrap the 'Roman Gladiatorial' part and go more for 'pit fighters'. The former are a motley collection of slaves, some fighers some not who are told to go out and die to entertain the crowd. The latter are a bunch of tough bastards who fight because they enjoy it. RG is right when he said that the roman influence isn't gelling, because it isn't. right, so pit fighters, not gladiators? might work, they still have ornate armour, right? i get the slave thing, they aren't gonna invest all the time, effort and resources on someone who isn't worth the effort... i suppose pit fghters open up different fighting styles too ;) thankyou Grey Hunter Ydalir Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/206821-the-blades-edge/#findComment-2467574 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Martemis Posted July 20, 2010 Author Share Posted July 20, 2010 I just want to add that I really like the, "captured Orks being used in fighting pits on the ships..." Your guys can really turn out to be Loyalists... but very twisted individuals. Listen to GHY. He is very wise! they are twisted, they are like balls of rage in power armour, they don't stop, think kratos in god of war... (oooh kratos in power armour - thats an idea, taking down a titan; oooh) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/206821-the-blades-edge/#findComment-2467587 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Martemis Posted July 22, 2010 Author Share Posted July 22, 2010 http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/7450/img00009201007201354.jpg chapter badge, what you guys think? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/206821-the-blades-edge/#findComment-2469543 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinzaren Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 Careful how you take advice from RagingGriffon. He won't let you RESPECT anyone ;) I kid I kid. In all seriousness, I love the pit fighter idea, and I like that you are gonna harness their rage into a tangible weapon. Badge looks good, perhaps make the fire just go straight up, like the world spontaneously caught fire? Atm it looks like the Comet from FF7:) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/206821-the-blades-edge/#findComment-2469548 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Hunter Ydalir Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 I'd be careful on how much rage you bring into it. These guys are starting to sound uncannily like Pre-Heresy World Eaters. Actually, they are just like the World Eaters. Just what sets your chapter apart from them apart from being loyalists? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/206821-the-blades-edge/#findComment-2469713 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RagingGriffon Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 I'd be careful on how much rage you bring into it. These guys are starting to sound uncannily like Pre-Heresy World Eaters. Actually, they are just like the World Eaters. Just what sets your chapter apart from them apart from being loyalists? Here I go and about to disagree with GHY <_< The only difference is they don't have nueral implants that amp their rage. So, aside from that, you might need to turn the volume down to about a 7. I like the symbol, though! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/206821-the-blades-edge/#findComment-2469783 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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