help with what to make with these?

[coldfrontau]

Hey all you glorious sons of russ (which i shall soon become also! YAY! hehe) i would appreciate if i could get some advice on what to make with the following models i should be getting within the next 2-3 days or so russ willing :D .

 

2.SW battleforces

2.wolfguard term box's

1.Logan model

1.Njal model (REALLY looking forward to this one!)

1.Canis wolfbourn model.

1.space marine devestators box.

 

I have got several spare special weapons and heavy weapons and a (half built) LRC and Rhino but there in Dark Angles colors and covered in dark angles icons so im reluctant to use them hehe.

 

i cant afford any more models for some time (saving for holiday B) ) so i am really hoping i can make an effective force using these as i got kinda over excited at the prospect of playing wolves and bought these before i had even recieved the codex i had ordered :P , not the smartest thing ive ever done hehe but atleast i have plenty of models to use for when i get used to playing (my first game will be with wolves :tu: ) i have come up with several lists (but didnt write them down! bloody fool i know hehe but i dont know if im doing right.

 

Basic idea i was thinking of was 10 WG drop pod 1 grey hunter sqd to guard home obj 2 dev sqds (1 with 3 missile 2 las + WG with cylone, 1 with 5 hvy bolters and MABYE WG with ass can) to cover them/support advance , mabye 15 blood claws ,5-10 scouts and one of the HQ choices im getting.

 

I know this isnt alot to work with but yeah like i said i got carried away without looking at the codex (atleast they were cheap, beating GW price by around 250+ $$) and cant buy more for a while :( so i really dont want to build them as all of one thing (say GH) and find out i should have built X amount as somthing else .

 

Please forgive my shocking grammar and i appreciate any help anyone can give me thankyou.

 

Also im doing it as my own chapter name yet to be decided between "Black Wolves", "Dark Wolves" or "Shadow Wolves"

will be black (duh hehe) and red probably, i am still in the process of working out there background but they are very pissed off at the inquisition( and high lords of Terra) over somthing but thats still being worked out too hehe.

 

Anyway im going to shut up and post this now so thanks in advance lol and heres a few (hundred) kegs of Ale to share around while you think :)

 

oh P.S ;) does this mean lol :) ???

[Requiem of the Wolf]

The best Advice I have ever gotten was from grey mage.

 

He said use one squad of Grey Hunters per 500 points. It has almost allways turned out to be precisely the amount I needed.

 

So I would Recommend going for 1-2 Long Fang Squads,3 Grey Hunter Squads. I would try trading at least one of the Drop pods for a Rhino.

 

A squad of Wolf Guard Terminators,try and get two cyclones to go with your long fangs and put the other 8 in the LRC.

 

Wolf scouts based around using operate behind enemy lines and blowing up enemy artillery and tanks is also really useful.

 

so 3 GH squads,2 Scout Squads,1 WG squad,2 Dev Squad,and if you can get them all in transports even better.

 

Otherwise send a WG to each GH squad and put Njal and Logan and 6 WolfGuard Termies in the LRC.

 

I would hold off on getting Canis honestly. They are supposedly getting plastic Thunderwolves in late august,and those would be more useful then Canis.

[Grey Mage]

I would reccommend making one final purchase for this army: Another DP.

 

3 Drop Podding squads of Grey Hunters will give you a nice flexable core to build the army around, and costs about 700pts with decent toys. Say another 150 for a ML+LC Long Fang pack, and then youve got two solid options you can pick and choose from depending on your moods:

 

1) Logan leads the way, with two squads of five WGTDA with whatever toys you like- I say 2 Storm Shields and something that ignores armor on every guy personally, with an assault cannon or CML- thatll take your next 600pts quickly.

 

2) Njal leads the way, in wich case I reccommend surrounding him with a large thing of blood claws and backing the whole force up with some scouts- probly 5-8 with a couple power weapons and a meltagun. Use them as the Hammer to your GHs anvil.

 

Then, once youve had some fun and learned a few things with that you can decide if you want to switch tou rhinos or perhaps snag some other useful units for a DP force- such as landspeeders, dreads, and of course some more DPs.

 

I wouldnt use Canis with what you have there, and would hold off on modeling him for a while- Thunderwolves are a finicky unit it seems, to small of a squad and theyll just die, to big a one and youve sunk alot of cash into overkill.

 

And yes- 1 squad of GHs per 500pts seems to be one of those magic numbers :)

[Casual Heresy]

I'd say start with a solid core of grey hunters. A group of terminators to gaurd Logan and Njal respectively. But if you are dead set on Canis, I'd say get some fenerisian wolves. Because Canis has no Invun save opponents will be able to kill him out right. With the wolves he can trot across the table happily.

[coldfrontau]

Hey guys very sorry for the late reply my computer was playing up.

I wrote a list using what you guys told me and am just wondering what you think.

 

Njal (in term armor)

 

5 WGTDA

cyclone launcher, 2 TH/SS, drop pod

 

3x10 man GH squad

2 plasma gun (each), pwr fist (each)

1 drop pod

 

7 scouts

2 pwr wep, melta gun, melta bombs

 

6 man long fangs (cyclone equiped WG attatched)

2 las can, 3 miss

total 1500 points

 

sorry once again for the late replay i will try and put up some more lists later but we have visitors comming.....yay.....

 

thinking this could work MABYE?

[Grey Mage]

It could.... 2 DPs seems a little light, whats your plan there?

[coldfrontau]

hi greymage my plan (besides hope and prair) was to join njal with the wg and drop them near cover and use hes powers to disrupt movment and with some luck hold the line while waiting for the wolfscouts and second pod to show up the long fangs would stay back and cover my home objective with one of the grey hunters while the other one advances.

 

although i have never played a proper game i do realise this is far from ideal but for the time being its the best i can do (models wise).

 

If however i could get some more pods or some rhino's what could i drop to include them?.

 

thanks for your help greymage (and anyone else)very much appreciated i know i didnt give you much to work with so i appreciate the dificulty involved.

[Grey Mage]

Yeah, if you can get another DP Id get rid of the Meltabombs on your scouts in a heartbeat to give another unit a DP.

 

That way theres no waiting- you just get your WG and your GH DP in turn 1.

 

Now, theres two ways to do it- either give it to a GH squad and drop them in later in the game, or give it to a GH squad and deploy them as normal and just drop the pod in later in the game.

 

Each has its own advantages and disadvantages- if you deploy the squad normally you have more bodies and more guns on the field NOW. Those first few turns can be pretty crucial at times.

On the other hand, if you drop them in later your opponent has to deal with a fresh squad appearing anywhere you want it to, and its scoring so you can even take objectives with it- either way, its not likely something he can ignore.

[wiplash]

My advice <_<

 

for the 2 boxes of terminators purchase 100 of nymidium (or however you spell it) 3mm in diameter and 1mm deep magnets. After a couple of hours work (i have been through this myself) you have 10 terminators with Thunder Hammer, Storm Shield, Storm Bolter, Power Fist, 2 Lightning Claws and the odd Chainfist, Power Weapon, Assault Cannon or Heavy Flamer thats (roughly) 60-70 weapon options.

 

As you have 2 Battle force boxes I would suggest first using up all of the devastator weapons on the men (so you dont have to pick and choose your long fangs when picking a list) Unless of course you have already decided not to include the multi melta (in which case sell it on ebay for some quick cash ^_^)

 

This wont help you tactically but it makes your force much more versatile when writing new improved lists

[Dyre]

You have alot of modeling to do in your future. Might i suggest assembling your army in 500 point intervals, Start off with two packs of GHs use your rhino for one of them, a RP in power armor for your HQ. You could also use a GH with a power weapon as a WGBL for the time being without having to aquire any new models. Toss in a small long fangs pack for a nice little starter list.