mrcrowley Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 I had my hopes set on the iron hands chapter as my first army in 40k but recently i have been thinking otherwise. i always thought that tanks and machines were cool in 40k, thats why i was going to go with iron hands and now have come up with a (in my mind) better idea. Name - Scions of Mars, i just came up with the name then searched it on google to check for its validity, apparently its a rule for 4th edition so im unsure whether im gonna get any flame for its originality. Homeworld - Mars, im unsure whether mars can be a homeworld for a space marine chapter or whatnot. maybe base them of one of mars two moons deimos and phobos so that they always have contact with the Adeptus Mechanicus. Colours - im gonna try for a mars'y red colour, i think mechrite red can do the trick. have some nice orange rusty / mars dust drybrush effect. im honour of thier founding gene seed legion the iron hands they have a silver aquilla and shoulder trim. Culture (and other stuff) - note that this is a WIP chapter, i assume they are very much like the iron hands except they have no guilt as they have done no failure (in thier eyes) although they keep a bottled up resentment towards chaos, especially the emperor's children (because fulgrim betrayed ferrus manus), this hatred is usually displayed in the heat of battle with chaos, i say 'bottled up' as in hidden because the techmarines usually have the personality of thier servitors lol thier purpose as a chapter is the quest for knowledge. the idea is that while the Adeptus Mechanicus and thier tech priests hunt for lost technology etc etc. it is the scions purpose and mission as a full strength space marine chapter to quest for knowledge. they also lend aid to other imperium organizations if the threat/purpose is deemed more important than the quest. Strategy - like the iron hands they have an affinity for machines and other realated equipment and use them in combat. they are relatively simplistic in the way they wage battle, spearheading the foe while pounding them with artillery is the most common. they are, however able to utilise other methods of war if needs be. this is the case where while tactical squads are commonly deployed in rhinos, within the scions of mars it is a great honour to operate bikes and landspeeders. it is because tanks are operated by a crew of 3 or 4 etc while a space marine biker rides his own mechanical steed, it is his to own, care for and use to thier most devestating effect. (i dont know if bikes have a machine spirit but thats what im going for) the rider and spirit form a bond so strong that when a bike is destroyed or lost the rider laments as if he lost a brother. hq is most made up of techmarines and a master of the forge. even the non mechanical hq units, chaplain, librarian, captain/chapter master have great interest in technology. it is not uncommon for these marines to have served previously as techmarines before moving on to their 'true place'. i havent made any characters of history yet but im always thinking of new ideas. tell me what you guys think, im a complete noob so tell me if there are parts where the fluff wouldnt work or if it conflicts with established fluff etc etc, constructive criticism is welcomed, hell even normal flaming is a benefit for me. i wish i could say that english is a second language to me but it isnt, spelling is not my strong point Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207202-vanilla-diy-chapter-scions-of-mars/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 It's your army and you can do what you want, but I think such a direct link to Mars would be intolerable in the Imperium. There are Chapters with ties to the Adeptus Mechanicus, but they are never described as being agents of them. But I think you have something here: maybe base them of one of mars two moons deimos and phobos so that they always have contact with the Adeptus Mechanicus. They can be based upon one of it's moons, there to defend the Solar system from attack following the Heresy. They can have ancient pacts of mutual protection and performing errands on behalf of their allies, but nothing "official" I would suggest. That way you can keep the rest of the fluff you have created :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207202-vanilla-diy-chapter-scions-of-mars/#findComment-2471673 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barret Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 To the Liber Astartes, home of all things DIY! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207202-vanilla-diy-chapter-scions-of-mars/#findComment-2472876 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinzaren Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 Well, I'll try to be gentle, well...ok. Gentle-ish. Is this a viable idea? In a word: No. It contradicts much of the established fluff. Namely: separation of power in the Imperium; the withdrawn, introverted nature of the Adeptus Mechanicus; the fact that the moons of Mars have most likely been converted to serve the Omnissiah in some way, be it as orbital defense platforms, or research stations etc. Long story short, this is your DIY Chapter, and the choices you make are your own. However, if you would like this fit semi-neatly inside the shared world and established backround, this will be a very hard sell. Speaking personally, as a reader, the moment I hear that your chapter are servants of the AM, and your are based in Sol system, it breaks my suspension of disbelief, and I find the rest of the article largely uninteresting. To date, only two chapters are officially based inside the Sol System. The Imperial Fists list their homeworld as Terra, and the Grey Knights make their base on the moon Titan. Other than that, Sol is largely off limits, because it is so darn important that they would probably be unlikely to station 1000 marines that close to the Emperor, especially with Chaos having claimed so many over the years. If you are going to pursue this idea, I wish you luck, and I hope you have very strong writing skills and explanations for all the reasons you are bucking the fluff. It is possible, but it will be very difficult. Good luck :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207202-vanilla-diy-chapter-scions-of-mars/#findComment-2473009 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrcrowley Posted July 27, 2010 Author Share Posted July 27, 2010 the only reason i wrote this was because i liked my idea of a colour scheme, red with an orange dust effect. i never liked my fluff, maybe i can make an alternative colour scheme for an already existing chapter :) could add some nice effects to the genesis chapter Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207202-vanilla-diy-chapter-scions-of-mars/#findComment-2473278 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argon Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 the only reason i wrote this was because i liked my idea of a colour scheme, red with an orange dust effect. i never liked my fluff, maybe i can make an alternative colour scheme for an already existing chapter :P could add some nice effects to the genesis chapter The Codex Astartes apparently allows for camouflage, so that would definitely work. Go for it, if you want. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207202-vanilla-diy-chapter-scions-of-mars/#findComment-2474402 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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