Blitzkreig Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 So I was reading the codex and a thought occured to me... I know Ulrik is our High Wolf Priest but do we have a Rune Priest that is the equivalent to a Chief Librarian? I always assumed it was Njal. And are our Iron Priests trained on Mars or just be the older Iron Priests? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207219-the-priesthood-of-the-wolves/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demonslayer Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 Yep Njal is the head Rune Priest and one of the best in the Imperium. I'm sure all Iron Priests go to Mars at some point Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207219-the-priesthood-of-the-wolves/#findComment-2471720 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirax Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 I always thought that each Great Company had a personal Rune Priest, while the other Priesthoods remained seperate. Oh well, there goes my whole belief system :/ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207219-the-priesthood-of-the-wolves/#findComment-2471730 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Wilhelm Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 Yep Njal is the head Rune Priest and one of the best in the Imperium. I'm sure all Iron Priests go to Mars at some point I'm not sure if that is true about Njal. He may be formidable, even your best, but I don't think he sits as head Rune Priest. He is one of many Rune Priests who form a council to Logan, and they get 'loaned out' to Great Companies, even as a permanent lone sometimes. I don't think I recall any fluff saying his is the head RP.... All Iron Priests do go to Mars. They learn the ways of the machine ~ a religious affair in 40K! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207219-the-priesthood-of-the-wolves/#findComment-2471735 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wysten Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 Aye, information on Rune Priest culture is patchy at best, only that they don't share residence with the other Space Wolves and are a consol to Logan. I imagine his opinon would weigh more then most due to his raw tailent, but actual hard fluff on him besides the generic "He was a great warrior who advenged the death of his mentor in such a way that earned him his name" is lacking. I'm disapointed in him personally, does not quite have the epic vibe build in of the other great Pskers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207219-the-priesthood-of-the-wolves/#findComment-2471745 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 Yep Njal is the head Rune Priest and one of the best in the Imperium. I'm sure all Iron Priests go to Mars at some point I'm not sure if that is true about Njal. He may be formidable, even your best, but I don't think he sits as head Rune Priest. He is one of many Rune Priests who form a council to Logan, and they get 'loaned out' to Great Companies, even as a permanent lone sometimes. I don't think I recall any fluff saying his is the head RP.... All Iron Priests do go to Mars. They learn the ways of the machine ~ a religious affair in 40K! ^this From the Space Wolf omnibus you find out that Rune priests (the same as Wolf Priests I think) don't belong to any company and only join them temporarily when needed. It also talks about the fact Iron Priests go to Mars for their training at some point. As for a head RP, I don't think it has even been mentioned (at least in nothing I've read) that any ranks exist within the RP's. I would agree that Njal is the best in the imperium and if Rune Priests have a head it would be him but I am uncertain to whether they do. Regards Jonny Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207219-the-priesthood-of-the-wolves/#findComment-2471831 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Betrayed_Spacewolf Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 they probably dont have a head of the council as both rune and wolf priests are well heeded when they have something to say. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207219-the-priesthood-of-the-wolves/#findComment-2471915 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 The chief rune priest is alderek [sp] and you would have a council of rune priests. They would test initiates an cast runes together etc Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207219-the-priesthood-of-the-wolves/#findComment-2472525 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Son of Russ Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 I don't think they have a head rune priest, simply due to russ' disregard of arcane ways, also a head rune priest is unseen in the space wolf ranks, due to their disregard for the codex astartes. Ulrik is not head wolf priest, he likes to see himself as the oldest and wisest, and an equal to fellow wolf priests. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207219-the-priesthood-of-the-wolves/#findComment-2472565 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor Kravin Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 I thought Ulrik the Slayer was the chief Wolf Priest - I thought the fact that he bore the Wolf Helm of Russ indicated this. To my knowledge no chief Rune Priest has been mentioned - I'm intrigued by the reference to Alderek. Njal's fluff states only that he is the most powerful. I would imagine that to be chief you would need not only raw power but the wisdom and discipline to use it appropriately. Given that the Wolves do not have a chapter master and then captains appointed by him but a council of Wolf Lords where one is voted as senior to the others I think a first amongst equals approach would fit the priesthoods too. Ulrik the Slayer bears the Wolf Helm of Russ and is oldest and possibly wisest so another Wolf Priest would defer to Ulrik but not necessarily accept direct orders from him. Similarly, the Runepriests may have a council where some voices carry more weight than others but no one individual holds absolute power. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207219-the-priesthood-of-the-wolves/#findComment-2472599 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirax Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 Ulrik is not head wolf priest, he likes to see himself as the oldest and wisest, and an equal to fellow wolf priests. Um... no. He is the Head Wolf Priest, and he's not an arrogant @$$ as you make him out to be Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207219-the-priesthood-of-the-wolves/#findComment-2472672 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 My reference for Alderek is the second SW novel. Alderek is refered to as the Chief Rune priest. So SW do have a a council for rune priest and a hierarchy (sp) Also rune priest are seconded to different companies just like wolf priests Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207219-the-priesthood-of-the-wolves/#findComment-2472763 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune Priest Ridcully Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 can the priests attached to a great company vote when deciding a wolf lord, or is it only possible for them to do so in the case of the wolf Guard being unable to make their decision? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207219-the-priesthood-of-the-wolves/#findComment-2472783 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schertenleib Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 can the priests attached to a great company vote when deciding a wolf lord, or is it only possible for them to do so in the case of the wolf Guard being unable to make their decision? I would see the priets advising as to who might be a better choice but not actually voting. Maybe a casting of runes to help the process along. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207219-the-priesthood-of-the-wolves/#findComment-2472820 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 I am sure the wolf lord is chosen in the same manner as a great wolf. In the wolf lords case the wolf guard decide who amongst them will lead. Usually its a clean cut choice, in the even of a tie the 2 main wolf guards nominated fight for it. Winner takes all. loser swears fealty to him. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207219-the-priesthood-of-the-wolves/#findComment-2472992 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aenar Deathclaws Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 For the Wolf Lord, it's all the members of the great company who choose their new wolf lord between the last surviving wolf guards ans not only the wolf guards. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207219-the-priesthood-of-the-wolves/#findComment-2473018 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoneSniperSG Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 I always imagined it like the old tribal ways, the oldest, wisest and most grizzled holds the most seniority. Duhh! It fits the Space Wolves to a T! Practical, no-nonsense ways are how Space Wolves organize and get things done. We don't prance about with some theoretical heirarchy. The Alpha of the pack is the outspoken, wisest and most venerable member. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207219-the-priesthood-of-the-wolves/#findComment-2473063 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Trivia Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 Agreed, I imagine just like wolves in nature, there will be an alpha male who emerges and establishes dominance and if another wishes to challenge they fight it out. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207219-the-priesthood-of-the-wolves/#findComment-2473087 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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