The Wolves dominate up north

[G. A. K.]

I just had a blast in Appleton wis. at Chimera hobby, a great store btw, worth driving the hour and a half from Madison. The ale is on me tonight my brothers, gather round and drink deeply of the tales of my victory. May it come to you all in time!!

 

My list:

 

Ragnar

Rune Priest JoWW,LL

Grey Hunters(11)- std, wulfen, melta, flamer; WG- TH/SS

Grey Hunters(9)- std, wulfen, melta, Rhino-dozer; WG- PF/SS

Grey Hunters(7)- std, melta, Pod; WG- TDA CMelta, Cfist

Grey Hunters(7)- std, melta, Pod; WG- TDA CMelta, TH

Scouts(5)-Melta, Sniperx1 (I had 3 pts left and it rounded me out, I kept the BP and exchanged the CC for the rifle.)

Long Fangs (5)- MLx4, Razorback-dozer,TL Las

Redeemer- EA, MM

Land Speeder- MM

Total: 1850

 

Round One: Dawn of War, Annihilataion

He had Orks. His list had 2 thirty boy slugga mobs, 1 thirty boy shoota mob, 2big meks, 2 dreads, 9 killa kans, 2 ten boy lotta mobs. I deployed right in the center with my rhino of GH and RP. He started with a dread exactly 18" away, a mek standing right behind and a mob of slugga boys backing up the mek.

Turn one I drive toward that mess and pod right next to the dread and mob. Actually use the searchlight for the first time to light up the dread. JoWW the dread, right into mek. Bye, bye. My podding Gh then explode the dread all over and kill four orks in the process. The following turn his othe mek arrives behind a wall of killakans and I do the same to him, poof. Godd bye cover saves!! It was downhill from there for him It ended with me winning 6 to 4 kp. Minor victory

 

Round Two: Speadhead, Annihilation

Chaos this time. DP-tzeench, GD, Lord in term, termie in raider, 2 plague squads, one undivided squad, one squad of two oblits and a lesser deamon pack of six. I get siezed!! :( He moves up, pops some smoke but does no damage with his las on my raider. My pod squad pop his raider, then recieve his charge. they hold up ok and I instant kill his lord with my TH :) but the squad is wiped soon after by the remaining termies. Ragnar was the story from then on. His squad went up the left flank Ragnar killed the remaining four termie himself and menaced the oblits who backed up. Th middle saw a bloody combat that was slowly going for chaos. Until Ragnar reversed course aray from the chaos lines and back to aid his brithers. Luckily was able to go thru the rhino into assault with the ten man csm squad. The last CSM fell during his phase so I was able to get to grips on that deamon and plague marines who had finish off the brother last brother in that same phase. But they had held the line just long enough for me to arrive and wipe then out. Minor Win with 11 kp to 6

 

Round Three:Spearhead, Five Objectives

Another Chaos player. I don't think words can describe how poorly this game went for this guy. right off the bat i explode his raider, with lord and berzerkers inside, only to kill four (of seven saves!) in the explosion too. I kept constant pressure with my raider with ragnar and I tabled him in an hour and fifteen. His dice seemed to comletely crap out on him, i hit two oblits with three ML wounds, he rolls 1-1-3 both are dead. But he was cool about it, as much as you can be. We've all been there, it sucks. Especially so on the top tale in round three.

Overall I took First! Always sweet to trade gas for GW product ;)

 

G

[WG Vrox]

well done brother, congratulations on the win.

[Grimtooth]

How did you JoWW the meks in each instance?

 

Q. Does Jaws of the World Wolf require line of

sight? Does it ignore terrain that blocks line of

sight (i.e., impassible terrain)?

A. As a psychic shooting attack, Jaws of the World

Wolf requires line of sight. The Rune Priest must

have line of sight to the first model that the

power affects – in effect he is treated as the target

model; the power just happens to hit everybody

else on its way through!

 

Did you have LoS to the Mek or did you LoS to the Dreads/Kans and think the power ran through them. If so, you were wrong. You would have had to have LoS to the Mek, not the Dread/Kan, and think that it then ran through to the Mek.

[G. A. K.]

well its my understanding that they said you need to pick an initial target and then the line goes from there. You can't hide behind a wall and send it out thru the wall at enemies you can't see, or straight into a CC without targeting anything else. However if you can see a valid target (not a model in CC) the line will hit them and anything behind, upto 24"; even models in CC. It doesn't however stop you from targeting a model you can't hurt to hit the models behind:) . There is no rule against that. You don't need to be able to hurt it but you do need to see it.

Thats how it seems to me, do you still disagree?

 

G

[Lord Clinto]

well its my understanding that they said you need to pick an initial target and then the line goes from there. You can't hide behind a wall and send it out thru the wall at enemies you can't see, or straight into a CC without targeting anything else. However if you can see a valid target (not a model in CC) the line will hit them and anything behind, upto 24"; even models in CC. It doesn't however stop you from targeting a model you can't hurt to hit the models behind:) . There is no rule against that. You don't need to be able to hurt it but you do need to see it.

Thats how it seems to me, do you still disagree?

 

G

 

To me, that is the correct way to use Jaws.

[Grimtooth]

well its my understanding that they said you need to pick an initial target and then the line goes from there. You can't hide behind a wall and send it out thru the wall at enemies you can't see, or straight into a CC without targeting anything else. However if you can see a valid target (not a model in CC) the line will hit them and anything behind, upto 24"; even models in CC. It doesn't however stop you from targeting a model you can't hurt to hit the models behind:) . There is no rule against that. You don't need to be able to hurt it but you do need to see it.

Thats how it seems to me, do you still disagree?

 

G

 

Q. Does Jaws of the World Wolf require line of

sight? Does it ignore terrain that blocks line of

sight (i.e., impassible terrain)?

A. As a psychic shooting attack, Jaws of the World

Wolf requires line of sight. The Rune Priest must

have line of sight to the first model that the

power affects – in effect he is treated as the target

model; the power just happens to hit everybody

else on its way through!

 

The emboldened part above is what concerns me in regard to your tactics. Did you have LoS to the first model that the power affects, i.e, the Meks? From your description, it appears that you didn't and you LoS the dread/kan, which the power does not affect, in order to hit the Meks behind which you didn't have LoS to.

[Olgerth Istaarn]

The power AFFECTS the Killa Kan, but it has no EFFECT... hehe.

[Warhorse47]

Congrats on the victories!

[G. A. K.]

The power AFFECTS the Killa Kan, but it has no EFFECT... hehe.

That was my view.

 

G

[Epic Thoughts]

Congratulations on the win, brother! Makes me want to go play in a tournament myself!

[Grimtooth]

The power AFFECTS the Killa Kan, but it has no EFFECT... hehe.

 

There is a clear and concise list of what unit types the power affects, and walkers is not on the list.

[silverneil]

The FAQ specifically says vehicles are not affected, it uses Artillery guns as an example. Killa Kans are, unfortunately, vehicles.

[Valerian]

The power AFFECTS the Killa Kan, but it has no EFFECT... hehe.

 

There is a clear and concise list of what unit types the power affects, and walkers is not on the list.

 

I agree with Ramses regarding the rule, but there is a slim chance that a walker like an Ork Dred would completely block true LOS to an Ork Mek anyway. GAK could have easily just declared the Mek as his first target and the fact that the Jaws line would have passed through an unaffected Dred on the way to the Mek would be irrelevant.

 

V

[Grimtooth]

The power AFFECTS the Killa Kan, but it has no EFFECT... hehe.

 

There is a clear and concise list of what unit types the power affects, and walkers is not on the list.

 

I agree with Ramses regarding the rule, but there is a slim chance that a walker like an Ork Dred would completely block true LOS to an Ork Mek anyway. GAK could have easily just declared the Mek as his first target and the fact that the Jaws line would have passed through an unaffected Dred on the way to the Mek would be irrelevant.

 

V

 

Sure but that is not what he said in his battle report nor in his explanation of how he justified doing it in his battle report. He targetted the dread/kans, and then let the line run through the ineligible model to hit the meks.

[Valerian]

The power AFFECTS the Killa Kan, but it has no EFFECT... hehe.

 

There is a clear and concise list of what unit types the power affects, and walkers is not on the list.

 

I agree with Ramses regarding the rule, but there is a slim chance that a walker like an Ork Dred would completely block true LOS to an Ork Mek anyway. GAK could have easily just declared the Mek as his first target and the fact that the Jaws line would have passed through an unaffected Dred on the way to the Mek would be irrelevant.

 

V

 

Sure but that is not what he said in his battle report nor in his explanation of how he justified doing it in his battle report. He targetted the dread/kans, and then let the line run through the ineligible model to hit the meks.

 

Quite true. I was just noting that the result was still probably fair.