Rider-75 Posted August 4, 2010 Author Share Posted August 4, 2010 @ EK: they are smoother than they look under the camera flash. but there are still a lot of little cleaning up bits to do, and the greave backs are certainly on that list, are the cuisses too. there are also little tiny flecks of plastic flash in places from where bits have been trimmed. @ TS: there are a few other game systems using 30mm bases. eg: warmachine and at-43. i'm also consider ing some of the precast resin ones from the likes of these from scibor or these from dragonforge or there's a selection at microartstudio. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207412-riders-true-scale-dabblings/page/2/#findComment-2480529 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiny sam Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 you should drill the side hole in the barel. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207412-riders-true-scale-dabblings/page/2/#findComment-2481168 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rider-75 Posted August 5, 2010 Author Share Posted August 5, 2010 yup. i need a smaller drill bit though. the one i have is barely small enough to drill out the main barrel muzzle, so is huge by comparison to the porting holes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207412-riders-true-scale-dabblings/page/2/#findComment-2481291 Share on other sites More sharing options...
apologist Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 Looking good – the Captain/sergeant has come out very nicely. So i beseech my fellow adept to point me in the correct direction on a couple of points. 1) Painting. I am looking to get a deeper, gritier blue than a lot of the brighter, more (dare i say) smurf-like blues that i see. baring in mind M30/31 is a rather grimdark place, with brother fighting brother and son rebelling against father, i want a darker feel to the models. Does anyone have any good deep blue recipes, or links? I had the same thinking when I made my Ultramarines (plus the colour French Ultramarine is much darker and richer than Ultramarine blue), so I opted for this dark scheme: http://lh3.ggpht.com/_w52z2ezBXbQ/S-lfGygyojI/AAAAAAAABzU/79-NMLeN3Uc/s800/Marine%20III%20Composite.jpg It's a simple case of Necron Abyss highlighted up by adding Space Wolf Grey to the mix. I faff around with purple washes in the shadows and some smoking-highlights, but that's the bulk of it. 2) Company/Chapter markings. are there any guides on how the different companies within the chapters of the legion were identified? i'm favouring the gold/yellow option as it is the current company colour. but would the chapter be identified on the marines too? if so, how? As far as I'm aware, there's nothing explaining pre-Heresy Ultramarine markings. I figured that Guilliman would have used his Legion as the testing ground for the Codex: Astartes, so I broadly ran with standard markings from Insignium Astartes; though I used the variant tactical/assault/devastator etc markings as a nod to them being 'antique'. Other than that, I just wanted a good contrast with dark blue, so opted for gold/yellow throughout on the rims and trims. Yellow is the only accent colour other than blue used in the Horus Heresy artbooks, so I figured perhaps it ran across the whole legion. If you do go for a different accent colour, be sure to use a fairly light one, or your dark blue models might look a bit dingy. I used quite a bit of Dheneb Stone and other light colours to add honour markings to further liven up the paint scheme. Here's an example. http://lh6.ggpht.com/_w52z2ezBXbQ/S-k0_bprXLI/AAAAAAAAByU/zzTgFdjJ0Jc/s800/Marine%20II%20Composite.jpg 3) Army list. Maybe better in the army list section, though it seems more for reviews than initial guidance....? I am aiming for a predominantly PA armoured force. Scouts in true scale present a problem with the legs. terminators i may tackle in the future, as i have a few thoughts on how to upscale them. vehicles and dreadnoughts, i suspect are currently going to be out the window...... SO with that in mind, can anyone suggest a 500point footslogger list that would be in keeping with heresy era Ultramarines? I'd run with a nice basic force of three tactical squads and a Captain, personally :confused: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207412-riders-true-scale-dabblings/page/2/#findComment-2485137 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doghouse Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 Very nice work so far, great job on the captain and the GS work is really nice. :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207412-riders-true-scale-dabblings/page/2/#findComment-2485319 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rider-75 Posted August 10, 2010 Author Share Posted August 10, 2010 thanks apologist and doghouse. from longly admiring both your works, that kind of feedback means a lot. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207412-riders-true-scale-dabblings/page/2/#findComment-2485465 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munkyninja1988 Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 So far thats a nice start, cant wait to see some paint on him though, Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207412-riders-true-scale-dabblings/page/2/#findComment-2486460 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rider-75 Posted November 15, 2010 Author Share Posted November 15, 2010 finally an update of bits and bobs. first the next two marines now have torsos attached to legs! basic torso shapes are done: http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/rider_in_black/GW/body1front.jpg http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/rider_in_black/GW/body1back.jpg http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/rider_in_black/GW/body2front.jpg http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/rider_in_black/GW/body2back.jpg number 1 will get some replacement rivets along his "rib" line. number 2 is an attempt to use plasticard for the thicker soles rather than GS. still needs pruned to shape. both need cables/wires between chest plate and belt. then there's a rough mock up of a terminator under way. http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/rider_in_black/GW/termlegsfront.jpg http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/rider_in_black/GW/termlegs.jpg struggling with the legs. want them to look big chunky and slightly primative. there will be extra bulk on the thighs too, as well as an extended rear plate and extra groin plating. torso was made wider, thicker and taller with the use of GS and plasticard. http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/rider_in_black/GW/termbodyside.jpg http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/rider_in_black/GW/termbodyback.jpg http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/rider_in_black/GW/termtorsofront.jpg seems to be about the right proportions. the gap between the leg joint ant the torso will need build up a little. probably need to widen the belt and extend the torso a little downwards. scale shot: http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/rider_in_black/GW/scaleshot.jpg as you'll see i'm aiming to get the terminator only slightly taller than a regular marine as far as head positioning goes. (ie: that extra 1mm spacer that's under the foot, plus a little in the torso/leg joint.) a marine is still the same size inside after all, so proprtionally the armour has to give the extra bulk and height, not the wearer. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207412-riders-true-scale-dabblings/page/2/#findComment-2562604 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Mick Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 Looks good only the 3shoulder pads on a leg looks abit weird so far but wont just it untill its finished ;) . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207412-riders-true-scale-dabblings/page/2/#findComment-2562610 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pig Of Sparta Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 Liking the idea you've got for bulking out the terminator armour and the layered shin guards look very PH too. I'm sure I've said it before, but I love terminator mini's (who doesn't?) so I'l be really interested to see how this one comes along :) James Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207412-riders-true-scale-dabblings/page/2/#findComment-2562625 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminatorinhell Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 Can you please lengthen the upper legs of the termie, trust me lengthen those and shorten the lower legs to make more proportional sense. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207412-riders-true-scale-dabblings/page/2/#findComment-2562733 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rider-75 Posted November 15, 2010 Author Share Posted November 15, 2010 yeah, i agree. measuring the upper and lower outer leg lengths (hip joint to knee / knee to ankle) means the upper leg should be a fraction longer and the lower a fraction shorter..... hmmm. back to the drawing board.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207412-riders-true-scale-dabblings/page/2/#findComment-2562752 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grotsmasha Posted November 22, 2010 Share Posted November 22, 2010 Great work so far, using a similar method to yourself (GS and plasticard) I've achieved the following result EDIT: image pre-GS, obviously !! :END EDIT Cheers and keep it up, Jono Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207412-riders-true-scale-dabblings/page/2/#findComment-2569523 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sersi Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 Wow! You've really done some great work on these. The captain is excellent. You should check out the arm bits from the Chaos Knights sprue. They have some very ornate arms that fit Templars well. Good Luck! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207412-riders-true-scale-dabblings/page/2/#findComment-2569649 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Mick Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 Looks great, well done :) . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207412-riders-true-scale-dabblings/page/2/#findComment-2569741 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rider-75 Posted August 28, 2012 Author Share Posted August 28, 2012 Well it's only been nearly TWO YEARS.... Oops. In update though. This boy still needs a wee bit filling and cleaning but near as done. http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/rider_in_black/CFC3F2AF-631C-4243-A84F-A099AC251B66-678-000000ADA850BD1D.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207412-riders-true-scale-dabblings/page/2/#findComment-3160646 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rider-75 Posted August 29, 2012 Author Share Posted August 29, 2012 El Capitan finally sees some paint. First stage is a coat of mordian blue over black undercoat. Followed by progressive dry brushing of Mordian up to UM and a final dry brush of UM/Skull white. http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/rider_in_black/883077BD-8BD7-49C5-9C6C-99229426F1E9-1011-000001D791B7469E.jpg This evens out very nicely with a heavy wash of Asurmen blue. http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/rider_in_black/B5A280AC-1610-4267-8590-AA064B341A71-1011-000001E09D251AF6.jpg This is then given a final couple of goings over with a Mordian/UM mix and a few edge highlights of UM/SW. [iNSERT PIC] You can see the finished colour by clicking the Hall of Honour link in my sig and having a gander at the UM I did quickly for my kid in there. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207412-riders-true-scale-dabblings/page/2/#findComment-3161511 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rider-75 Posted August 29, 2012 Author Share Posted August 29, 2012 Next guy up.... Arms need positioning. Then it's toastie time :lol: http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/rider_in_black/F4D20738-24AF-4B36-B1EF-37B6E4C3A734-1011-000001E09469EFA1.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207412-riders-true-scale-dabblings/page/2/#findComment-3161536 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rider-75 Posted August 30, 2012 Author Share Posted August 30, 2012 Flames dude basic assembly done http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/rider_in_black/42C8B260-9972-4C02-95BC-FBD497AFA23A-1775-000002E216220B4E.jpg Construction of bolter marine no.1 complete, just a few bits of cleaning up to do. http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/rider_in_black/680D10F2-4DBF-4BF5-AA7F-28C8E494B48B-1775-000002E21D9C56B9.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207412-riders-true-scale-dabblings/page/2/#findComment-3162606 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rider-75 Posted August 31, 2012 Author Share Posted August 31, 2012 Looky what I picked up.... http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/rider_in_black/FDDDBEAF-7AA5-41E0-81DE-35ADEC8A64FB-2231-0000035119400239.jpg Choclate chip E-Cookie to whoever guesses what'll become of them Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207412-riders-true-scale-dabblings/page/2/#findComment-3163314 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rider-75 Posted September 2, 2012 Author Share Posted September 2, 2012 Tonight sees little progress. I've also been away the weekend at a wedding do that stifled work on these somewhat... First the sholuder trim on flamer guy http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/rider_in_black/5912489F-01AD-496A-B69D-38F61011FAA7-580-0000009884EEC1B3.jpg He still needs a few details added to spruce him up and hide some of the GS work where it's not so good. Then a good clean up to get him sorted. Next up is the beginnings of the next one: http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/rider_in_black/4446A8E5-4DC6-42E6-97AB-B414FC1D65EB-580-000000987C748493.jpg In finest Rolf Harris mode: "Can you guess what it is yet?" Here's the 3 so far together: http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/rider_in_black/F94CD19E-376F-48E4-9769-43316D8D27ED-580-00000098990B22F4.jpg And finally a wee shot of the first three true scalers next to a plastic DA vet model for some Scale comparison: http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/rider_in_black/F0836E25-13D7-4A20-8FDE-00B4875D7872-580-00000098B69F54AC.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207412-riders-true-scale-dabblings/page/2/#findComment-3164975 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rider-75 Posted September 3, 2012 Author Share Posted September 3, 2012 Sorted the links in the first page ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207412-riders-true-scale-dabblings/page/2/#findComment-3165735 Share on other sites More sharing options...
caprera Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 I'm really impressed you learned very well ! I look forward for the updates ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207412-riders-true-scale-dabblings/page/2/#findComment-3165736 Share on other sites More sharing options...
subtlebrush Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 Always a HUGE fan of True-Scale! Awesome work mate. You've really got a handle on it now. Can't wait to see more from you. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207412-riders-true-scale-dabblings/page/2/#findComment-3165822 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rider-75 Posted September 4, 2012 Author Share Posted September 4, 2012 Thanks guys. Problem will be when it gets back to the actual GS sculpting on the legs having taken such a long break between..... Lol Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207412-riders-true-scale-dabblings/page/2/#findComment-3165929 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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