ac4155 Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 hi all, can special issue ammunition be used with a storm bolter or is it removed if you upgrade to a storm bolter? In the special issue ammunition its description says it works on Boltgun-armed models, but the storm bolter description is 'two boltguns attached side by side' However, the only one that definitely would not be able to work with a storm bolter would be hellfire rounds as it says so in the description. I think it would be only boltguns which get special issue ammunition. Ac Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207440-special-issue-ammunition/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 It is only bolters and combi-bolters. Stormbolters can not use it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207440-special-issue-ammunition/#findComment-2474664 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koremu Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 It is only bolters and combi-bolters. Stormbolters can not use it. Nor can Bolt Pistols, FWIW Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207440-special-issue-ammunition/#findComment-2474672 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chengar Qordath Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 It is only bolters and combi-bolters. Stormbolters can not use it. Agreed; fluff aside, the storm bolter is a different weapon with a different shooting profile, ergo it is a not boltgun and cannot use special-issue ammo by RAW. Personally, I think storm bolters being able to use special issue ammo would be better for gameplay since that would actually make the option for storm bolters worth taking on Sternguard, but the rules are very clear that it doesn't work that way. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207440-special-issue-ammunition/#findComment-2474676 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 It is only bolters and combi-bolters. Stormbolters can not use it. Agreed; fluff aside, the storm bolter is a different weapon with a different shooting profile, ergo it is a not boltgun and cannot use special-issue ammo by RAW. Personally, I think storm bolters being able to use special issue ammo would be better for gameplay since that would actually make the option for storm bolters worth taking on Sternguard, but the rules are very clear that it doesn't work that way. Stormbolter armed sternguard would be really nasty and very popular choices. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207440-special-issue-ammunition/#findComment-2474677 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koremu Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 It is only bolters and combi-bolters. Stormbolters can not use it. Agreed; fluff aside, the storm bolter is a different weapon with a different shooting profile, ergo it is a not boltgun and cannot use special-issue ammo by RAW. Personally, I think storm bolters being able to use special issue ammo would be better for gameplay since that would actually make the option for storm bolters worth taking on Sternguard, but the rules are very clear that it doesn't work that way. Stormbolter armed sternguard would be really nasty and very popular choices. At the same cost as a Combi-Weapon, for about the same increase in effectiveness. Oddly though, it would make them truly horrid on the Assault. Imagine an Assault Squad, except with twice as many shots before the charge, which wound on 2s Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207440-special-issue-ammunition/#findComment-2474689 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Chaplain Gaius Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 next codex :o Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207440-special-issue-ammunition/#findComment-2474807 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ac4155 Posted July 28, 2010 Author Share Posted July 28, 2010 I thought so, but just thought i would check. How do Sternguard Veterans fair in game with the special issue ammunition and whats the best way to kit them? I was thinking 3 with bolters, 1 meltagun, and Sargent w/ power fist and bolter Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207440-special-issue-ammunition/#findComment-2474980 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Chaplain Gaius Posted July 29, 2010 Share Posted July 29, 2010 I thought so, but just thought i would check. How do Sternguard Veterans fair in game with the special issue ammunition and whats the best way to kit them? I was thinking 3 with bolters, 1 meltagun, and Sargent w/ power fist and bolter they work great. My last game I cant lie they sat in their rhino all game because I didnt need them. but thats always a good thing... game before that, they shot down a charging daemon prince with hellfire rounds in a single turn of shooting by themselves. And combi melta'd the chaos dreadnought to molten slag standing right behind him the following turn. They're killing machines mine are equipped like so: Sgt. w/Power fist x4 sternguard w/combi-meltas and x5 bolters Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207440-special-issue-ammunition/#findComment-2475235 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frogstaff Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 With the release of the new MK III power armor from Forge World, I'm now highly tempted to add Sternguard to my army. Of course, I don't really want to swap out the Umbra pattern bolters for combis. How effective is sternguard in a drop pod with just their special ammunition? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207440-special-issue-ammunition/#findComment-2476708 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isiah Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 Probably better asking that in the +Tactica Astartes+ section of the forum :). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207440-special-issue-ammunition/#findComment-2478916 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Chaplain Gaius Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 With the release of the new MK III power armor from Forge World, I'm now highly tempted to add Sternguard to my army. Of course, I don't really want to swap out the Umbra pattern bolters for combis. How effective is sternguard in a drop pod with just their special ammunition? It works fine, but I wouldnt drop into the middle of anything too serious or crazy. sternguard for their points cost are NOT throw away troops. Also, dont drop anywhere near any dreadnoughts or other armor. since you wont be bringing a powerfist or any combi meltas. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207440-special-issue-ammunition/#findComment-2481277 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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