Byrne Posted July 29, 2010 Share Posted July 29, 2010 Well, fisrt off... Its been a while since I played, and I try not let previous editions cloud my mind too much... I have tried to look for answers for this, but I am weak in searchfu, get "cant find" most of the time. well this is what I am asking for... #1 saga of beast slayer, does this work for psychic powers/range? #2 mow, does the d6+1, add 2 weapons and charge, a total of 9 attacks? #3 if you add an ally HQ from ex witch hunters, does that leave us with a total of 3 hq? ( 2from wolves and one from wh) # 4do we roll to it for murdious hurricane? # 5 why does Canis have rending? does rending stack with weapons? #6 since Canis is an independant character, can he join other packs? it dosent say he is subject to the TW rule... #7 Can Ulrik use his Slayer oath for ranged units? I am soo sorry if you find this too easy to answer, just help me with a yes or no, if thats the case... I apprichiate all answers :( Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207532-hello-fang-i-need-som-insight/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
CainTheHunter Posted July 29, 2010 Share Posted July 29, 2010 #1 saga of beast slayer, does this work for psychic powers/range? It remains to be debated or solved by FAQ, but RAW nothing prohibits it. So Rune Priest with Living Lightning and Saga may reroll hits on walkers etc. #2 mow, does the d6+1, add 2 weapons and charge, a total of 9 attacks? Yes for charge, no for weapons, so only 8 attacks maximum. # 4do we roll to it for murdious hurricane? No, it says that it hits the unit, so we only roll 3d6 and to wound. # 5 why does Canis have rending? does rending stack with weapons? no idea why, because it does not stack with weapons. #7 Can Ulrik use his Slayer oath for ranged units? No for Ulrik and any other Wolf Priest. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207532-hello-fang-i-need-som-insight/#findComment-2475766 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirax Posted July 29, 2010 Share Posted July 29, 2010 #1: ---- #2: No, it replaces your weapons, but AFAIK, the D6+1 doesn't include the charge/counter-charge bonus. #3: No, the Space Wolf HQ thing only applies to HQs from the Space Wolf codex. #4: it's a psychic shooting attack, so yes. #5: Canis has Rending because he's on a Thunderwolf and yes it adds to special weapons #6: He has a Thunderwolf Mount, but even if he joined other units he would still be slowed down by them. But he can join Fenrisian Wolves and Thunderwolves AFAIK. #7: ---- Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207532-hello-fang-i-need-som-insight/#findComment-2475767 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CainTheHunter Posted July 29, 2010 Share Posted July 29, 2010 Skirax - You don't roll to hit for MH - that is the only exception from other shooting psychic attacks. If I am wrong, Grey Mage wil correct me, but I am pretty sure about this :D. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207532-hello-fang-i-need-som-insight/#findComment-2475770 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirax Posted July 29, 2010 Share Posted July 29, 2010 Really?! YES!!!! WOOPEE! *ahem* Sorry, but I though they did. Then again, the entry says, '3D6 hits,' so now I'm inclined to agree with you. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207532-hello-fang-i-need-som-insight/#findComment-2475779 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byrne Posted July 29, 2010 Author Share Posted July 29, 2010 thanx for the replies so far, please I NEED MORE, SEEMS THERE IS SOME PEOPLE WITH DIFFERENT THOUGHTS SO FAR... (shxxx, sorry for the caps) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207532-hello-fang-i-need-som-insight/#findComment-2475784 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heimdall Skullcrusher Posted July 29, 2010 Share Posted July 29, 2010 #1: ----#2: No, it replaces your weapons, but AFAIK, the D6+1 doesn't include the charge/counter-charge bonus. #3: No, the Space Wolf HQ thing only applies to HQs from the Space Wolf codex. #4: it's a psychic shooting attack, so yes. #5: Canis has Rending because he's on a Thunderwolf and yes it adds to special weapons #6: He has a Thunderwolf Mount, but even if he joined other units he would still be slowed down by them. But he can join Fenrisian Wolves and Thunderwolves AFAIK. #7: ---- I think you have a lot of these wrong here. #1 - Already answered #2 - You get the D6+1 + Charge/Counter-Charge bonus #3 - A witch hunter HQ takes up 1 HQ slot where a space wolf HQ only takes up 1/2 an HQ slot #4 - No to hit, it is an auto-hit thing #5 - FAQ said that this does nothing. It is just in there because of his thunderwolf mount, but doesn't stack with his wolf claws #6 - Can only join Fenrisian Wolves and Thunderwolf Cavalary #7 - Argued that since he is "allocating attacks" that only applies to close combat. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207532-hello-fang-i-need-som-insight/#findComment-2475790 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirax Posted July 29, 2010 Share Posted July 29, 2010 So, I didn't get a lot of them wrong, only two? :P That's not a lot, that's a couple. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207532-hello-fang-i-need-som-insight/#findComment-2475850 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heimdall Skullcrusher Posted July 29, 2010 Share Posted July 29, 2010 Haha, you are correct. I think maybe some of the answers weren't exactly wrong just worded a little confusing. Its all good brother. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207532-hello-fang-i-need-som-insight/#findComment-2475854 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirax Posted July 29, 2010 Share Posted July 29, 2010 *pats on back* It's ok brother, here, have a Bolter Babe and a Stein of Ale *hands him both objects* Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207532-hello-fang-i-need-som-insight/#findComment-2475861 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimtooth Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 It still stands to reason that Canis can either choose to use his Wolf Claws or choose to attack regularly with Rending. He gets no bonus whatsoever from the wolf claws when attacking with Rending, as he gets no Rending bonus' when attacking with wolf claws. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207532-hello-fang-i-need-som-insight/#findComment-2476034 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valerian Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 It still stands to reason that Canis can either choose to use his Wolf Claws or choose to attack regularly with Rending. He gets no bonus whatsoever from the wolf claws when attacking with Rending, as he gets no Rending bonus' when attacking with wolf claws. The only thing that stops Canis from having Rending with his Wolf Claws is the stupid FAQ. He has Rending in both his Bestiary entry as well as his Army List entry, and there is no good reason for the FAQ writer(s) to have arbitrarily taken it from him. Shrike has Rending with his Lightning Claws (IIRC), and I am sure that if we looked around we could find other examples. The wargear entry for Thunderwolf Mounts does say that special close combat weapons and Rending cannot be combined, but that applies only to the standard TWM upgrade and should not be assumed to preclude it for a specific Special Character. Of course, I don't really care as I do not have, nor do I ever intend to play with Canis - but I am bothered vicariously for those who would. Valerian Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207532-hello-fang-i-need-som-insight/#findComment-2476792 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimtooth Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 Well like I said, Canis can still choose to attack with Rending attacks or his Wolf Claw attacks, just not both nor combining them both. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207532-hello-fang-i-need-som-insight/#findComment-2477179 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Son of Russ Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 Canis can join normal units he has the independant character rule, i always usually put him in non wolfen units. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207532-hello-fang-i-need-som-insight/#findComment-2477274 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitzkreig Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 Canis can join normal units he has the independant character rule, i always usually put him in non wolfen units. I thought Canis could only join units of Fen wolves and Thunder wolves seeing as under Fangir's rules it says he counts a Thunderwolf Mount... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207532-hello-fang-i-need-som-insight/#findComment-2477549 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimtooth Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 Canis can join normal units he has the independant character rule, i always usually put him in non wolfen units. I thought Canis could only join units of Fen wolves and Thunder wolves seeing as under Fangir's rules it says he counts a Thunderwolf Mount... You are correct abd The Son of Russ is wrong. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207532-hello-fang-i-need-som-insight/#findComment-2477612 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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