BLACK BLŒ FLY Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 That's just it. You can't use it in normal games so who cares? It does look like a garbage truck in space. Hee hee. 0b :rolleyes: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207609-caestus-assault-ram-or-optional-stormraven-counts-as/page/2/#findComment-2477042 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redo Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 This is one very, very ugly vehicle. I hate the two booms coming forward and the small piloting compartment. Na, not my cup of tea. I hope that the real storm raven looks very little like this pile of misformed resin. PS I am also glad that the rules are not approved. They seem rather too good to be true for my liking. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207609-caestus-assault-ram-or-optional-stormraven-counts-as/page/2/#findComment-2477086 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortunate Son Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 I also think this thing only looks like a giant trash barge because of the paint job. If it was cleaned up and red... it might actually look awesome. Just an opinion. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207609-caestus-assault-ram-or-optional-stormraven-counts-as/page/2/#findComment-2477116 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHarrower Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 Not only is it ugly, the rules are pretty ridiculous. Give me a Stormraven any day. I wish they followed the concept art closer as it looked MUCH better. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207609-caestus-assault-ram-or-optional-stormraven-counts-as/page/2/#findComment-2477127 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darklighter Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 I think it looks a little to pig iron in design fo my liking (could just be the angel and colour though) and the rules for the points cost is far far to cheep... I also have to admit a little green eyed monster has risen in me as I can see the huge potential for this transport that I as a BA player can't use. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207609-caestus-assault-ram-or-optional-stormraven-counts-as/page/2/#findComment-2477209 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pigeons Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 i feel like to save money they used the warhound head(since that things chassis looks EXACTLY like it) and went from there. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207609-caestus-assault-ram-or-optional-stormraven-counts-as/page/2/#findComment-2477244 Share on other sites More sharing options...
USABOB Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 To me the rules were a interesting read, kind of OTT in some places. The model doesn't really appeal to me, the concept art was way better and seeing the steep price I probably won't be getting one. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207609-caestus-assault-ram-or-optional-stormraven-counts-as/page/2/#findComment-2477365 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oloff Hammeraxe Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 The only thing which really stands out about this vehicle to me is the fact that it has AV 13, and is immune to Melta. That's a decent advantage, but I still like our flying box better. We get Skies of Blood, the ability to carry jump troops, AND we get to throw dreadnoughts at people! Though it'll be kinda funny to shut up all the whiners who complain about our "Flying Land Raiders". This seems much more Land Raiderish to me! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207609-caestus-assault-ram-or-optional-stormraven-counts-as/page/2/#findComment-2477541 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLŒ FLY Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 Immunity to meltas is huge. I need to read the rules. I like the look of the ship. 0b :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207609-caestus-assault-ram-or-optional-stormraven-counts-as/page/2/#findComment-2477556 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vor Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 I may buy one of them. I actually think they look great. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207609-caestus-assault-ram-or-optional-stormraven-counts-as/page/2/#findComment-2477650 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrahawk Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 That thing might have some pretty solid rules but it looks horrible. I usually maintain a pretty positive outlook in general but seriously... look at that thing! :lol: No self-respecting Astartes will use that monstrosity. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207609-caestus-assault-ram-or-optional-stormraven-counts-as/page/2/#findComment-2477682 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thundrchickn Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 I think the model looks nice. I'd play one. As fr the rules...I don't see how anyone can say the SR is better. I'd prove it to anyone by playing a game with them. The survivability of this thing is light years ahead of the SR making it much more points efficient. It has an invul for the love of god. the SR is immpossible to get a cover save on unless you hid it bhind a HUGE building. I want to play terminators but I can't find a good way to run them that would be as efficient as my assault squads. I'd throw both of these flyers in the trash if they would have given our flying land raider DoA or made it fast. I'd run a 5 man assault termy squad with 4 TH/SS 1 LC 1 reclusiarch in termy armor and a libby in termie armor with sword/wings. Thats a 3+ invul for more than half the squad with I5 S10 preferred enemy force weapon hits. Your going to obliterate anything you touch before they get a chance to swing most of the time and then your libby can go flying around thumping peoples noggins for support or stay with the other termies and death star over the board in the 36 inch moving flying invul tank that gets crazy bonuses for crashing into junk. imagine tank shocking with this thing. at 36" you'd have a S16 base hit. It auto pens a friggin land raider which could do no damage to you via the invul and if you do detroy your own vehicle your termies will pop out and say "greetings we've come to cave in your skull if you don't mind *thump*thump*." for the storm taven...LC on turn one penetrated on a 4+ and crashes and burns. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207609-caestus-assault-ram-or-optional-stormraven-counts-as/page/2/#findComment-2477728 Share on other sites More sharing options...
biglou666 Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 well it certianly is a marmite vehicle, i for one love it! but, how the hell am i going to fit hurricane bolters, bloodstrike missiles and dreadnought clamps on that? ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207609-caestus-assault-ram-or-optional-stormraven-counts-as/page/2/#findComment-2477730 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperors Immortals Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 I actually quite like the model, in a flying ram typre of way. The rules are a little OTT though, but would probably even out in an apoc game IMO. SR are a terrific light tank/heavy skimmer that can delivber both a huge payload and a great squad. BTW - you can run a lib in it and get that cover save if you want.At least thats what weve been doing in my group ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207609-caestus-assault-ram-or-optional-stormraven-counts-as/page/2/#findComment-2477743 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLŒ FLY Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 Now that I have read the rules I think it's okay but not really any better than the Stormraven. It is bigger than a landraider so good luck hiding it. It is not immune to melta, only has ceramic shielding like the Stormraven. I can tell you from building a Forgeworld thunderhawk it's going to be a lot of hard work to assemble. It's shooting is very limited. So basically it's a highly specialized vehicle. 0b <_< Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207609-caestus-assault-ram-or-optional-stormraven-counts-as/page/2/#findComment-2478249 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhorneHunter57x Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 It seems to be a bit too specialised for me. I think that in games of Apoc I would rather use my blue StormRaven (using C:BA). well it certianly is a marmite vehicle, i for one love it! but, how the hell am i going to fit hurricane bolters, bloodstrike missiles and dreadnought clamps on that? ;) Hurricanes under the wings (like the Thunderhawk Heavy Bolters), replace the Magna-melta with an Assault Cannon (or Plascannon or Lascannon), use Ironclad H-Ks for the Bloodstrikes (mounted in pairs on the sides of the aft hull where the Aquilas are), put the Dreadnought clamps below the two main engines on the back (replacing the afterburners), and use the Firefury Missile Battery as the Typhoon Missile Launchers. At least, that is how I would do it if I were to convert one of these into a SR. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207609-caestus-assault-ram-or-optional-stormraven-counts-as/page/2/#findComment-2478295 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakobus Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 I'm just thinking that the C.A.R. may be the STC that the Stormraven works from. The wing configuration and transport area, probably without the split for a Stormraven. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207609-caestus-assault-ram-or-optional-stormraven-counts-as/page/2/#findComment-2478349 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Looted Monolith Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 Other than being ridiculous in design(Could never fly) no matter how much precious ani-grave technology is wasted on it. When the storm raven is released I really hope it doesn't resemble that flying trash can. Besides no POTMS makes it useless to anyone with access to a storm raven. Abuse POTMS to the limit and storm ravens become invaluable my Brother Blood Angels. God Emperor that is HIDEOUS! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207609-caestus-assault-ram-or-optional-stormraven-counts-as/page/2/#findComment-2478366 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abraxes Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 That has got to be the ugliest FW model I've ever seen IMO. Seriously, it looks like two seacan containers welded to the front of a giant landspeeder chassis. I think the model would have looked much better if it had a single exit ramp like a landraider. I really can't understand the double exit ramps that only provide enough room for one man to disembark at a time. Seriously, what happens to the disembarking assault after the first troops to exit take a round in the head each? With no room for the following troops to maneuver through to get out - thanks to their dead buddies - it wouldn't be much of an assault. I can only smile at the thought of opposing Chaos marines taking advantage of the ensuing 'loyalist fish in a barrel' scenario that would quickly follow. As far as the technical design of this vehicle goes, wasn't it built for orbital boarding actions? Specifically, it was built to carry troops, rocket across the gulf of space and slam into enemy vessels to disgorge it's cargo. Great. I really have a hard time trying to imagine why this vehicle would be utilized as a ground transport vice a T-hawk or SR, which can carry way more guys and way more supporting weaponry. FW builds great models but this isn't one of them IMO. They should have cranked out a storm raven or even better a PH stormbird. Either one of those would guarantee to sell fast I think. Anyways, that's just my opinion / rant. Thanks for reading. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207609-caestus-assault-ram-or-optional-stormraven-counts-as/page/2/#findComment-2478731 Share on other sites More sharing options...
the jeske Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 Other than being ridiculous in design(Could never fly) no matter how much precious ani-grave technology is wasted on it. its not ment for atmosferic flight . think about it as a guided boarding torpedo. in space aero dynamics are less of a concern. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207609-caestus-assault-ram-or-optional-stormraven-counts-as/page/2/#findComment-2478738 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ebsolom Posted August 2, 2010 Author Share Posted August 2, 2010 I really can't understand the double exit ramps that only provide enough room for one man to disembark at a time. Seriously, what happens to the disembarking assault after the first troops to exit take a round in the head each? With no room for the following troops to maneuver through to get out - thanks to their dead buddies - it wouldn't be much of an assault. I can only smile at the thought of opposing Chaos marines taking advantage of the ensuing 'loyalist fish in a barrel' scenario that would quickly follow. :P Thankyou Abraxas! That was the best laugh I had all day. As for the model, it's damn fugly! :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207609-caestus-assault-ram-or-optional-stormraven-counts-as/page/2/#findComment-2478896 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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