ImperialGuardian Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 I coated the metal head with dishwasher soap and used green stuff to make a mold of the honor guard helmet. From there I coated the mold with dishwasher soap and pressed it into green stuff to make the actual helmets. I think they turned out great. I plan on using my extra "masters of the chapter" as bodies and may pick up another set. My biggest problem with the metal honor guard was that they only came in two poses. Hope you enjoy, and please let me know any ideas that these pictures inspire =) http://gallery.me.com/mattvucu#100037&...k&view=grid http://gallery.me.com/mattvucu/100037/hg1/web.jpg http://gallery.me.com/mattvucu/100037/hg2/web.jpg http://gallery.me.com/mattvucu/100037/hg3/web.jpg http://gallery.me.com/mattvucu/100037/hg4/web.jpg http://gallery.me.com/mattvucu/100037/hg5/web.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortsonfire79 Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 They look great. I love doing press molds as well, and I think that yours turned out just fine. The use of them on the Chapter of the Master is a great idea to get new models that still hold detail. Thats a pretty mean looking honor guard you got going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImperialGuardian Posted August 2, 2010 Author Share Posted August 2, 2010 Here are some updates.... The left side of his face was hard to get a good mold for but I am happy with the results after I painted it... http://gallery.me.com/mattvucu/100037/photo%201-2/web.jpg http://gallery.me.com/mattvucu/100037/photo%203-3/web.jpg http://gallery.me.com/mattvucu/100037/photo%202-3/web.jpg http://gallery.me.com/mattvucu/100037/photo%204-1/web.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortsonfire79 Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 Wow great. Would you consider it worth it to purchase Calgar? I may have to steal your idea, because you're a genius...And how much work would it be to shave off all of the UM iconography? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminatorinhell Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 Wow those molds came out nice! Did you just press it on top of the helmet and nothing else and how hard was it to clean it up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImperialGuardian Posted August 2, 2010 Author Share Posted August 2, 2010 I was really surprised at how well the molds came out to be honest. I did not have to remove any green stuff from the head. Here are my tips: 1) put soap on the models face and try not to get it on your fingers otherwise it will be hard to hold the green stuff =) 2) use a lot of green stuff to make the mold, but do not press it too far into his head. I will take a pic of the mold on the guys face as a reference... 3) use as little green stuff as possible when pressing the mold. I will get some pics up on how to do this as well. I did have to sculpt the back of the head, but if you take your time with it, it shouldnt be too hard... and if you get creative you can probably find a way to cover up the back or make a rear mold too. The UM iconography is on the belt, the bottom of the loins, and the weapon. I feel like it is easy to cover up the belt buckle with another army's icon. I feel like the weapon is also easy to deal with because it can be replaced. The U's at the bottom of the loins would probably be hardest to deal with One option is to try and find a source online that sells the honor guard individually... you only need one if you do this although i suggest getting both. Their heads face different directions and the front facing half will turn out much better when you make the mold. I really had to fix more errors than you can see in the pictures when I was painting it... I could not just ink the left side of his face (his left) The main reason not to buy 10 honor guard on their own is because they all have the same dumb pose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImperialGuardian Posted August 2, 2010 Author Share Posted August 2, 2010 Here are some pics with how to Creating the mold: here is what I mean about using a lot of green stuff but not pushing it in too much. Also make sure you wait at least a day for it to dry completely before removing it: http://gallery.me.com/mattvucu/100037/photo%202/web.jpg http://gallery.me.com/mattvucu/100037/photo%201/web.jpg Here are the results... I pushed the one on the right in too much and had to clip off the right side that was hanging over. http://gallery.me.com/mattvucu/100037/photo%203/web.jpg For pressing the mold I used the following strategy: Make a pillar of green stuff... tall and skinny (thats what she said?) Massage it with soap so it doesnt stick to the mold... and put water all over the mold. http://gallery.me.com/mattvucu/100037/photo%204/web.jpg Press the mold down from the top like so, push till its flat, and then remove. Make sure you dont use too much GS. The final result on the left used too much, the right used the perfect amount: http://gallery.me.com/mattvucu/100037/photo%205/web.jpg http://gallery.me.com/mattvucu/100037/photo/web.jpg?ver=12807255130001 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemal Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 TBH this is a nice technique but a little dubious at best in terms of legality, as it could be used to do illegal things. However, I'd certainly advocate doing a two-part mould for these types of details as there are details on teh back of the helmet that are nice to replicate... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anvilarium Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 TBH this is a nice technique but a little dubious at best in terms of legality, as it could be used to do illegal things. *sigh* Not this old chestnut again... :nuke: Games Workshop have been quoted as saying that it is OK to use green stuff casting to duplicate parts of your minis, providing that you don't use the technique to duplicate entire models en masse. Edit: B&C Forum Rules cover the same topic: Green Stuff & Resin casting: A tried and true hobby "tool" and a hotly debated topic on the B&C over the past 7 years. Currently you are allowed to discuss casting techniques. Given it's volume out on the web chances are you know how to do it already. You can even give tutorials on how to build moulds and the best resin in your opinion to use. If at any time a mod feels that a casting post has gone beyond the realm of "personal use" it is at the moderators discretion as to whether the thread will stay open. Keep in mind that counterfeiting (recasting and selling for your own profit) is illegal and Games Workshop will prosecute people for it. If it is shown that a user account or thread is dealing with casting for the purpose of counterfeiting the user account will be dealt with severely! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemal Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 Aha - sorry - didn't realise that was the new ruling - I'll go and ask the other mods/cedos for suitable chastisement immediately... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sar mikael Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 great work! im really impressed with the way the molds have turned out. i wonder why mine havent come out as good? maybe the washing up liquid is the way to go, as apposed to vaseline? so awesome molding tips, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aioannou Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 this is a great idea. I was doing this a couple of years ago with night lord shoulder pads and rhino doors. Its extremely effective on both! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImperialGuardian Posted August 3, 2010 Author Share Posted August 3, 2010 I would suggest making 3 molds... My first one turned out really well, but my second one wasnt as good. Considering I had more experience the second time I made it, I would say it is probably more random error in the process. I think the dishwasher soap might help too =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CREATOR_OF_ALL_SINS Posted August 4, 2010 Share Posted August 4, 2010 These models are a really good idea. It makes me want to do an army with honour guard helmets! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Emperor's Champion Posted August 4, 2010 Share Posted August 4, 2010 Damn....I may have to steal you idea wholesale. I think I'mma have to go buy another Masters box set.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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