Cpt. Bannockburn Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 Besides the MK III iron armour set and 'vintage' special weapons and bolters, FW brings out a new assault craft, which is, according to the experimental rules a Fast Attack choice for SM armies, including DA Rules can be found here: http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Downloads/Prod...F/c/caestus.pdf Oh, and pictures here, it's the mystery spacecraft from a while ago Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207641-new-toys-also-for-the-da/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Eight Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 doesnt look very marinie Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207641-new-toys-also-for-the-da/#findComment-2477028 Share on other sites More sharing options...
brennus Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 This made me stop and think for a moment. This could be used in a drop-pod army in lieu of Land Raiders, I suppose. The teleport homer option could be useful. The Caestus lacks the firepower of the 'Raider, though the big blast template of melta fire is nice. I also don't like that the missile pods are one-shot wargear. The other issue that I have with it is that it may be selected as a fast attack slot, meaning that you will have to burn a turn boarding it as a transport. Overall, I think it is a compromise vehicle that does a number of things, but none of them very well. It might work in Armaggeddon games with very large tables because of the 36" move, but that's the best use that I can come up with. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207641-new-toys-also-for-the-da/#findComment-2477058 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt. Bannockburn Posted July 31, 2010 Author Share Posted July 31, 2010 I thought of a 36" ram. Which doesn't work, since it isn't a tank o_O Edit: Oops. It's a tank, I missed that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207641-new-toys-also-for-the-da/#findComment-2477059 Share on other sites More sharing options...
brennus Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 Yeah, the idea of a rocket-powered vehicle ramming something as anything except a suicide attack is pretty ludicrous to me. It makes sense in space, or possibly even in the atmosphere or undersea. It is, after all, a baby boarding torpedo. Large structures that it would ram would probably break open. A ground-based vehicle, though, might break up when it was struck, but I can easily visualize some debris catching in the ground, puulling at a corner or side of the ram plate, and then the Caestus flip and spins out of control until it crashes. And that's being somewhat generous. I know "it's just a game," and you have to bend the rules of physics in the name of science fiction, but you can only do it so far. Go any further and it becomes silly - like a jet that rams tanks. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207641-new-toys-also-for-the-da/#findComment-2477071 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arvendragon Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 Woah, just noticed Blood Angels don't get it. It sucks our Terminator squads are capped at 5, otherwise, this would be a great Turn 2 charge. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207641-new-toys-also-for-the-da/#findComment-2477088 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fearlessgod Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 It sucks our Terminator squads are capped at 5, otherwise, this would be a great Turn 2 charge. Well, it transport capacity is 10 PA marines or 5 Terminators, so normal DW squads are fine. Belial and the squad he joins will still have to either use a LR Crusader or Deathwing Assault (or walk ;) ) While it looks fine and the rules are interesting, it's still more points than a BA Stormraven. I can't see me buying one anytime soon. The Mark III Iron Armour is stunning! I will be adding a few packs to my collection. ~fearlessgod~ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207641-new-toys-also-for-the-da/#findComment-2477098 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt. Bannockburn Posted July 31, 2010 Author Share Posted July 31, 2010 Actually it can hold 10 terminators, so Belial+IC+5 is valid. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207641-new-toys-also-for-the-da/#findComment-2477107 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EPK Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 Actually it can hold 10 terminators, so Belial+IC+5 is valid. Heh, it does say that in the special rules, doesn't it? That seems unprecedented and perhaps likely to change? It's been established in most every case that TDA because of it's bulk simply takes up space. Maybe is should hold 15 and TDA counts at 1.5, lol. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207641-new-toys-also-for-the-da/#findComment-2477176 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FerociousBeast Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 The transport thing is explained. There are five harnesses in each "prong", so that's why the transport capacity is set to 10. It's not that it can't fit more PA marines area-wise, it's just that there aren't enough harnesses for more. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207641-new-toys-also-for-the-da/#findComment-2477248 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arvendragon Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 Well, it's about time Deathwing got more than 3 transports... Provided my group lets me use this. No one else can afford Forge World yet. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207641-new-toys-also-for-the-da/#findComment-2477269 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomevans Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 Anyone spotted the new Iron Armour that is being released? It look absolutely stunning and isn't too expensive, I think I might have to invest and sprinkle the marines throughout my normal Tac squads. Or just have them as one uber squad. What do all you guys think of them? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207641-new-toys-also-for-the-da/#findComment-2478082 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isiah Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 Anyone spotted the new Iron Armour that is being released? It look absolutely stunning and isn't too expensive, I think I might have to invest and sprinkle the marines throughout my normal Tac squads. Or just have them as one uber squad. What do all you guys think of them? Yes I have and I concur. Make a cool looking DA Veteran squad maybe?? Or the Consecrators?? Linky for those that haven't seen. Cheers I Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207641-new-toys-also-for-the-da/#findComment-2478818 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of the First Legion Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 Make a cool looking DA Veteran squad maybe?? Or the Consecrators?? Thsee suits immediately shouted DA and Consecrators to me as well! Having had a good look at the new Foergeworld armour variants (and with more on the way) I'm very tempted to begin a drop pod Consecrators force (complete with rumoured great crusade/ heresy style dreadnought) Forgeworld and my money! A match made in heaven! KOTFL Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207641-new-toys-also-for-the-da/#findComment-2485649 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 I also don't like that the missile pods are one-shot wargear. The other issue that I have with it is that it may be selected as a fast attack slot, meaning that you will have to burn a turn boarding it as a transport. Its a good thing you wont have to then- a squad can always be deployed in a transport that isnt dedicated, provided there isnt a special rule preventing it- such as TDA not being able to go into a Rhino. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207641-new-toys-also-for-the-da/#findComment-2485909 Share on other sites More sharing options...
notmattlythgoe Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 Check out the new Maximus armor too. Link Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207641-new-toys-also-for-the-da/#findComment-2486329 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isiah Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 Check out the new Maximus armor too. Link I'm not keen on those helmets but the backpacks are sweet. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207641-new-toys-also-for-the-da/#findComment-2486349 Share on other sites More sharing options...
notmattlythgoe Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 Yeah, I was never big on that style of helmet either, but i like the poses on the legs. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207641-new-toys-also-for-the-da/#findComment-2486358 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemal Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 And one for those heresy era players: http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/New_Stuff/SPAC...FERROX-X10.html Umbra feros (read Sternguard) bolters!!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207641-new-toys-also-for-the-da/#findComment-2486373 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomevans Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 Some really nice Space Marine stuff coming out of Forge World recently, hopefully more is on the way. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207641-new-toys-also-for-the-da/#findComment-2486417 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredox Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 I'm tempted to pick up a Caestus or three depending on how the rules work out. The older marks of armour would also be nice but that would probably depend on how I end up styling my DA. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207641-new-toys-also-for-the-da/#findComment-2487141 Share on other sites More sharing options...
notmattlythgoe Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 I've been painting my DA in the pre heresy color scheme. So these older marks of armor would be nice to mix into my tac squads and bike squads. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207641-new-toys-also-for-the-da/#findComment-2487164 Share on other sites More sharing options...
krewl Posted August 14, 2010 Share Posted August 14, 2010 That Ceastus as is is a typical FW product, beautiful piece of work, but just so broken. Never allow that in a tounament if you have a say about it. (Unless I have them then I can win.) B) That thing is overpowered. 36" move, so guaranteed charge next turn. 10 terminators in that transport bit, ramming ability, anti melta paint, AV13, AND an assault vehicle. I could probable break about 80% of all armies I'd play against with that in my lists. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207641-new-toys-also-for-the-da/#findComment-2488467 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomevans Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 Yeah just a little bit broken krewl, confined to massive battles of Apocalypse I think, where the odd Warhound or two could take it down. I am a little bit disappointed with the Corvus armour, as their is little point in doing it in my humble opinion as you can make them out of the Tac squad box, but apart from this all the new armour looks magnificent. If I pass my exams I am going to treat myself to 5 Iron Armoured marines and if I fail my exams I am going to console myself with 5 Iron Armoured marines. Hopefully option 1 will happen :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207641-new-toys-also-for-the-da/#findComment-2489063 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawain Veteris Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 My chapter the Red Scimitars specialises in void boarding actions and these craft are exactly what I was looking for for a transport. I was looking for designs of a Shark-Class boarding torpedo which is like a drop pod that is fired at an enemy ship but I haven't found anything as yet. I think the Caestus is perfect for my army and I intend to have four or five made from plasticard by the endo f the week. GV Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207641-new-toys-also-for-the-da/#findComment-2489117 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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