calgaryBA Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 Does anybody use this amazing character? You get one hell of a lot for 150 points, but he has to come with a jump pack... I'm really not a fan of throwing jump packs on some DC just to use this guy as he seems to be intended to use. There seems to be way better ways to fill the roles of a JP DC lately. Does anybody run him on foot with the DC since he can't go in a LR or a rhino? Or do you just forgo him for a regular chaplain that can be targeted in combat with lower initiative and no awesome other rules? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207731-how-to-use-lemartes/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 If you don't want jump pack DC just get a Storm Raven 10 DC and Lemartes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207731-how-to-use-lemartes/#findComment-2478166 Share on other sites More sharing options...
calgaryBA Posted August 1, 2010 Author Share Posted August 1, 2010 Well that's a downer. Until GW comes out with a Stormraven model, that's not happening for me. I don't have the time to make something like that right now. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207731-how-to-use-lemartes/#findComment-2478182 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NExOBLIVISCARIS Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 actualy you can only have 5 dc and that dude. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207731-how-to-use-lemartes/#findComment-2478216 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattsama Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 NExOBLIVISCARIS If you don't want jump pack DC just get a Storm Raven 10 DC and Lemartes. Nothing says you can not mix Jump Infantry with Infantry. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207731-how-to-use-lemartes/#findComment-2478220 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 I really enjoyed playing around with Lemartes but DC are a glass hammer. You are paying premium points and only Lemartes has an invulnerable save. They will nuke one unit then get shot off the table. For those points you can take a squad of Vanguard with stormshields and a nice mix of assault weapons. 0b <_< Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207731-how-to-use-lemartes/#findComment-2478244 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperors Immortals Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 FNP helps out heaps though, drop pod them near something you want killed or tied up and let em rip Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207731-how-to-use-lemartes/#findComment-2478257 Share on other sites More sharing options...
calgaryBA Posted August 2, 2010 Author Share Posted August 2, 2010 How about completely skipping Lemartes and a chaplain, and just load up on 15 DC in a LRC? I don't suspect you'll need re-rolls to hit and wound with 15 DC. Throw in a couple power weapons and a hammer, coming out to 360 points. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207731-how-to-use-lemartes/#findComment-2478263 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 If you are going to field Death Company then a Chaplain let's them reroll hits & wounds when they charge... Seems almost mandatory to me. The FNP is awesome but with the plethora of weapons that are AP2 or below it's not really that much better than a cover save quite often. They are certainly lots of fun to play regardless. 0b ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207731-how-to-use-lemartes/#findComment-2478275 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnightmare Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 Two things I think that GW dropped the ball with:- 1) Expensive DC jump packs; means Lemartes isn't used as much; which is a shame he has great rules and now a mini 2) DC Tycho cannot join DC!!!!! ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207731-how-to-use-lemartes/#findComment-2478437 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkio Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 to be perfectly honsest. i play with lemartes as often as i can he is an auto take unit imo for the dc. unles you are meching up, i dropped dante lemartes and 10 death company down in front of a chaos lord +termis the other day. got picked apart during shooting phase they assaulted. and i still walked out of combat with 5 dc and lemartes. (dante ate too many powerfists to save em) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207731-how-to-use-lemartes/#findComment-2478445 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burningblood Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 How to use Lemartes- Pack him with a crap ton of DC with Jump Packs. Go forth and kill. Put any wound that doesnt insta kill on Lemartes FIRST. Once he finally takes a wound and goes (even more) insane, go forth and kill some more. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207731-how-to-use-lemartes/#findComment-2478704 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lounahtic Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 i like the part where if he gets a wound he gets piss and jump to 5 attacks... ouch... though he only has 2 wounds... makes is kinda bleh... 3 wounds would be nice... and the whole i only come w/ jp thing is pretty lame... especially in this edition where jp on dc are expensive and not great.... bring back chaplain in squad negate rage and i'm game... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207731-how-to-use-lemartes/#findComment-2478939 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlauG Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 As someone with 2 Storm Ravens, I'm desperate to try and squeeze him into my 1500pt list actually... he'd be lovely to add to my regular DC. I hadn't twigged to the thing about him not being able to be singled out, either. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207731-how-to-use-lemartes/#findComment-2478962 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordofDeath11 Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 Really? Why, because he's not really an IC? That's cool. Anyways, I was just thinking, with everyone so mad about the cost of an Uber Death Star DC unit being so high, why doesn't someone try going the opposite way and just fielding the minimum 3 DC marines with no upgrades(except for jump packs) and use them as a human shield to help get Mr.Madness into CC with some baddies. Obviously, just don't throw him at anything to hurty and he should kick some tail. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207731-how-to-use-lemartes/#findComment-2479304 Share on other sites More sharing options...
calgaryBA Posted August 3, 2010 Author Share Posted August 3, 2010 I'll try some test games this week and see how some JP DC do with him vs a LRC with 15 DC (2x pw, 1x TH, 1x PF) and a bare bones chaplain. GW's trick of awesome models = sales, has definitely worked on me. They look far too awesome all painted up now to not give them a serious ride around the block. EDIT: on a side note, is anybody else surprised that DC don't have fleet? It seems weird that a squad of marines can fire their weapons at full bore after moving, and still be able to assault, wouldn't be able to just keep running into combat. I suppose it's just a little too much for 20 points a model. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207731-how-to-use-lemartes/#findComment-2479335 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 calgary, I think that Fleet was originally one of the DC rules and it got removed (see Tycho still having fleet) but this is entirely a guess on my part. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207731-how-to-use-lemartes/#findComment-2479573 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlauG Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 As an update to my previous post, today for a game at 1750pts I added Lemartes to my 5-man JP-less DC, and the additional high initiative PW attacks made them utterly devastating, to say nothing of all the rerolls. I just wish I could fit him in somehow at 1500 quite frankly... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207731-how-to-use-lemartes/#findComment-2479935 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLŒ FLY Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 calgary, I think that Fleet was originally one of the DC rules and it got removed (see Tycho still having fleet) but this is entirely a guess on my part. James that is what I heard as well plus that they would come equipped with bolter, bolt pistol and chainsword - über grit. If only it were so. 0b :pirate: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207731-how-to-use-lemartes/#findComment-2480126 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Kovash Posted August 4, 2010 Share Posted August 4, 2010 I'm going to try running him like LordofDeath11 mentioned, minimum 3 DC. Might include the Thunder Hammer just for kicks, along with a regular power weapon on the third guy. Should be interesting. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207731-how-to-use-lemartes/#findComment-2480229 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlauG Posted August 4, 2010 Share Posted August 4, 2010 Largely on-topic, but as I run my DC as 5 men to get the DC Dread, would Lemartes count as a 5th if I purchased him plus another 4 DC? It might /just/ be possible to sneak him into my regular list if that's the case. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207731-how-to-use-lemartes/#findComment-2480368 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crynn Posted August 4, 2010 Share Posted August 4, 2010 4 ways of running him. Lots of JP DC = way to expensive 2 JP DC one with maybe hammer if you so wish = alot more damaging than you think if you can get that wound onto lemartes without killing the rest of them lots of dc on foot = way to crappy with rage lots of dc in Stormraven = really viable if you like storm ravens which i personally dont but that is another debate entirely So to sum it up, either be an amazing general and somehow plant a wound on lemartes without killing a 3 man squad and use those str 6 int 6 reroll hit and wound attacks to take down someones poor char before it strike or have some reason for thinking that the storm raven is a good unit and put lemartes in there with some dc and watch that unit kick some ass! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207731-how-to-use-lemartes/#findComment-2480379 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zid Posted August 4, 2010 Share Posted August 4, 2010 How I'd run em: 10 DC + Lemartes, 2 PW/2infernus/1 TH, in a stormraven w/ DC dread. Yeah, you cannot use lem's JP (he'll move 6" like the rest)... but damn its hard hitting. The fact his base inititative is 6 is crazy! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207731-how-to-use-lemartes/#findComment-2480413 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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