Jakobus Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 So I was looking over the Caestus Assault Ram and I got to the Teleport Homer and the last line puzzled me slightly. "so long as the Caestus has not moved Flat Out this turn." Now am I wrong, but doesn't Deepstrike occur before movement, so when you Deepstrike you haven't moved flat out that turn. Now RAW I can see someone argueing that it says nothing about going Flat out after you've used it since it says has not not does not Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207751-caestus-assault-ram/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Valerius Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 My guess? It was meant to be that you cannot deep strike for a turn after it moves flat out, and the writer just expressed it wrong (forgetting which order those two events happen in). That's simply my interpretation of it, though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207751-caestus-assault-ram/#findComment-2478374 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 Your right- RAW its a useless meaningless rule. Personally, Id play it that if your using the homer, your not going to go flat out this turn. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207751-caestus-assault-ram/#findComment-2478487 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isiah Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 Seems a reasonable interpretation GM, so does the cannot be used the turn after you moved flat out which kinda makes more sense [?]. Either way well spotted Jakobus. Looks like a definite for the Grey Area topic. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207751-caestus-assault-ram/#findComment-2478905 Share on other sites More sharing options...
greatcrusade08 Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 glad to see GW is still getting it right Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207751-caestus-assault-ram/#findComment-2479370 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molloch Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 So I was looking over the Caestus Assault Ram and I got to the Teleport Homer and the last line puzzled me slightly."so long as the Caestus has not moved Flat Out this turn." Now am I wrong, but doesn't Deepstrike occur before movement, so when you Deepstrike you haven't moved flat out that turn. Now RAW I can see someone argueing that it says nothing about going Flat out after you've used it since it says has not not does not If you look at the rules for moving flat out in the 40k rulebook, it says that you have to declare if it's going to move flat out at the start of the movement phase (c/ref fast transports), and it's treated as moving flat out from the start of that phase. presumably this is what the rule refers to Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207751-caestus-assault-ram/#findComment-2479545 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakobus Posted August 3, 2010 Author Share Posted August 3, 2010 If you look at the rules for moving flat out in the 40k rulebook, it says that you have to declare if it's going to move flat out at the start of the movement phase (c/ref fast transports), and it's treated as moving flat out from the start of that phase.presumably this is what the rule refers to I just looked over the Fast Vehicles rules and could see any reference to having to declare Flat out at the start of the turn, only that you can't disembark passengers and then go flat out. Of course I could be missing a sidebar somewhere. What I was looking at was the first line of the Rolling for Reserves "At the start of each of his Movement phases except the first, before moving any unit.." Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207751-caestus-assault-ram/#findComment-2480122 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isiah Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 glad to see GW is still getting it right FW actually :wacko: although I've never really understood that relationship. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207751-caestus-assault-ram/#findComment-2482385 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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