Niiai Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 I saw your new codex online today, printed it out and read trhough it. It seemed like a mess. The one assassin has two guns and have proxy-relentless and it claimed that he could shoot two shots with the pistols. Made no sence to me. Also both codexes (demon hunters and witch hunters) keep refering to a bunch of in game objectives that no long aply. It seems like they just cut out the part where you can team up with other armies. Am I correct in any of this? It all seemed a mess. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207820-is-the-new-codex-ofisial/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoitaan Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 I saw your new codex online today, printed it out and read trhough it. It seemed like a mess. The one assassin has two guns and have proxy-relentless and it claimed that he could shoot two shots with the pistols. Made no sence to me. Also both codexes (demon hunters and witch hunters) keep refering to a bunch of in game objectives that no long aply. It seems like they just cut out the part where you can team up with other armies. Am I correct in any of this? It all seemed a mess. Your english is what doesn't make sense - no offense but a spell check and a proof read isn't a bad thing :/ I'm assuming you're talking about the codex's off the gamesworkshop website. Those aren't new. They're just PDF's of the current/old codex's that have been around since 3rd edition. The double shot with the pistol would be the eversor assassin. He has a special ability that means he shoots a pistol twice instead of just once like most people shoot pistols. Nothing too confusing. I don't fully understand the rest of what you're trying to articulate but I don't think there's too much in there thats outdated. What pages in particular are you referring to? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207820-is-the-new-codex-ofisial/#findComment-2479154 Share on other sites More sharing options...
greatcrusade08 Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 the pdfs were placed in the GW website becuase they arent printing any new ones (methinks its becuase they are working on an updated version).. yes they are official but no they dont override the codex either (they are the same thing). I guess those without the true version are punished by not being allowed allies, but if rumours are anything to go by, this maybe a trend that continues into the upcoming codex. Yes alot of the rules are outdated, alot of the anti-daemon powers are no longer useable as "instablity" is no loner an issue for daemons.. there are other examples too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207820-is-the-new-codex-ofisial/#findComment-2479368 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niiai Posted August 3, 2010 Author Share Posted August 3, 2010 Okey, so they can still take allies? I was looking but I did not see anything. If they are bnot printing up any more then that does not have to be all that bad. Anyway, I still do not se how the verton assassin can shoot twice, since a model can use only one shooting attack. As far as I can see the rule refers to back then when pistols had rapid fire but a range of 12". Yeah I know the spelling is off the charts Shoitaan but I am a dyslextian with English as the second language so bite me. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207820-is-the-new-codex-ofisial/#findComment-2479415 Share on other sites More sharing options...
greatcrusade08 Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 Okey, so they can still take allies? I was looking but I did not see anything. Only if they have the original codex.. Anyway, I still do not se how the verton assassin can shoot twice, since a model can use only one shooting attack. As far as I can see the rule refers to back then when pistols had rapid fire but a range of 12". Its one of those special codex rules.. (codex trumps rulebook in these matters), the rule were written before the Assault 2 type rules were invented... just treat it as that. Yeah I know the spelling is off the charts Shoitaan but I am a dyslextian with English as the second language so bite me. :) I wouldnt worry too much, im not dislexic and my typing is atrocious at times (knowing how to spell and actually typing are too different things).. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207820-is-the-new-codex-ofisial/#findComment-2479417 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bystrom Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 The Witchhunter's FAQ talk about the eversor's fast shot, and how it doesn't work in 5th ed, therefore that rule is ignored. Though the C:DH FAQ makes no mention of this. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207820-is-the-new-codex-ofisial/#findComment-2479510 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niiai Posted August 3, 2010 Author Share Posted August 3, 2010 I just...ghaa... Why do they reprint a codex into a PDF and take the time to change the scetion about army selection/team up but not remove the rules that do not work. Ghaaa! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207820-is-the-new-codex-ofisial/#findComment-2480069 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntgcleaner Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 Can someone link to the pdfs? I can't seem to find them on the site. Where is it?! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207820-is-the-new-codex-ofisial/#findComment-2480123 Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewm9 Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 Can someone link to the pdfs? I can't seem to find them on the site. Where is it?! First you need to have access to the site by signing up. Then you will find the pdf for each under the articles for each army. http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_Custom...__Witch_Hunters http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_Custom..._Daemonhunters_ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207820-is-the-new-codex-ofisial/#findComment-2480139 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoitaan Posted August 4, 2010 Share Posted August 4, 2010 Okey, so they can still take allies? I was looking but I did not see anything. If they are bnot printing up any more then that does not have to be all that bad. Anyway, I still do not se how the verton assassin can shoot twice, since a model can use only one shooting attack. As far as I can see the rule refers to back then when pistols had rapid fire but a range of 12". Yeah I know the spelling is off the charts Shoitaan but I am a dyslextian with English as the second language so bite me. B) Didn't mean you offense dude, I work in academia so bad writing gives me the :cusss. Also, usually when you see poor english in a forum, its not because of dyslexia ;) If I see an Eversor on the table, we just treat it as assault 2. I suppose it may depend on your opponents on how anal they get. All in all, I find that the characters with outdated/irrelevent rules and abilities are typically not fielded anyway as they're not exactly useful. Mind you, I'm talking about WH as they're my army. I don't know too much about the DH codex. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207820-is-the-new-codex-ofisial/#findComment-2480167 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady_Canoness Posted August 4, 2010 Share Posted August 4, 2010 When I saw 'High' on the description for this topic I thought "d@mn bro, I guess it is 4/20 somewhere in the world!" (..... or was that just me?) Answer to your question: yes, it is official - more than a little behind, but official. Play it as it reads. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207820-is-the-new-codex-ofisial/#findComment-2480176 Share on other sites More sharing options...
archangelCJ Posted August 4, 2010 Share Posted August 4, 2010 anyone elce notice they took out the "Universal Special rules" section for the Grey Knights... i would have thought that would have been one of the things that would have stayed permament, and they are much more survivable with them in. now we lose the shroud and true grit ^_^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207820-is-the-new-codex-ofisial/#findComment-2480256 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted August 4, 2010 Share Posted August 4, 2010 GK USRs are still explained on the summary page at the end of the PDF. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207820-is-the-new-codex-ofisial/#findComment-2480442 Share on other sites More sharing options...
archangelCJ Posted August 4, 2010 Share Posted August 4, 2010 i haev officially gone *phew* :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207820-is-the-new-codex-ofisial/#findComment-2480560 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntgcleaner Posted August 4, 2010 Share Posted August 4, 2010 Wow, That's the best scan job I've seen... (I know its their PDF they sent to a printer) Nothing has changed. It just seems lazy. At least fix the Errata in the book... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207820-is-the-new-codex-ofisial/#findComment-2480599 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niiai Posted August 4, 2010 Author Share Posted August 4, 2010 Hmmm...well I if they do it after the dark eldar then no wonder they just gt pdf's. They probably don't want to send a big order to the printers for just 3 moths time. :-) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207820-is-the-new-codex-ofisial/#findComment-2480810 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor Fox Posted August 4, 2010 Share Posted August 4, 2010 Can't believe I missed this topic somehow.. ahem.. Please refer to my stickied post up at the top of the forum, The Final Word on the PDFs: As posted on the GW Website As the question has more than been answered, I'm closing this topic. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207820-is-the-new-codex-ofisial/#findComment-2480836 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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