winterdyne Posted August 3, 2010 Share Posted August 3, 2010 My current commission is to do 2 Ultramarines Venerable Dreadnoughts (a chaplain and a support dread) and a Sicarius. Anyway, the client has requested I go nuts (and I've quoted for a fair amount of time on these). The client is also OK with one of these being entered into GD before I hand them off. Here's the support dread - very little conversion work - just a repose on the toes, drilling out, and new collets on the exhaust system at the back, mostly because I managed to saw through the existing ones. Also ended up sculpting a new section of chain under the banner - much to my surprise chain is actually very easy to sculpt. http://www.winterdyne.co.uk/maz/images/commissions/ultramarines2/ven_dread_wip1.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207876-commission-um-venerable-dreads-and-sicarius/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterdyne Posted August 4, 2010 Author Share Posted August 4, 2010 http://www.winterdyne.co.uk/maz/images/commissions/ultramarines2/ven_dread_wip4.jpg http://www.winterdyne.co.uk/maz/images/commissions/ultramarines2/ven_dread_wip5.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207876-commission-um-venerable-dreads-and-sicarius/#findComment-2480955 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pueriexdeus Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 My simple question is why are you making the Ven Dread a stand off shooty Mortis thingy??? And: Yes there has to be an and; how do you do the parchment on the base? Looks so good. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207876-commission-um-venerable-dreads-and-sicarius/#findComment-2481151 Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterdyne Posted August 5, 2010 Author Share Posted August 5, 2010 1) 'Cos the client asked me to. 2) It's white paper, glued with PVA on the back (makes it form to corners better) crumpled up a bit. Stained with Gryphonne Sepia. Text done with Mech. Red, Chaos Black / Scorched Brown mix. Holes poked with knife. Scorching with chaos black. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207876-commission-um-venerable-dreads-and-sicarius/#findComment-2481315 Share on other sites More sharing options...
celes Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 I hate to belittle the obvious greatness of the work you've done here, but I can't seem to draw my eye away from the parking lines you've painted onto the tarmac surface at the front of the base. It kinda looks like one of the oldest, most venerated killing machines in the Ultramarines chapter has just stepped onto the set of Eastenders to kill the Mitchell family. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207876-commission-um-venerable-dreads-and-sicarius/#findComment-2481353 Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterdyne Posted August 5, 2010 Author Share Posted August 5, 2010 ...one of the oldest, most venerated killing machines in the Ultramarines chapter has just stepped onto the set of Eastenders to kill the Mitchell family. ROFL... that's made my morning that has... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207876-commission-um-venerable-dreads-and-sicarius/#findComment-2481366 Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterdyne Posted August 5, 2010 Author Share Posted August 5, 2010 Today's progress - the head airbrushed and finished by hand, the initial zenital coats (a few more than in my sternguard tutorial, and going to a lighter shade) on the blue. Started the extreme highlighting on the torso. Most likely a few days' work on that. Shouldn't take much more than a day or two for the metals, and then the freehand work begins... and yes, there will be a lot. http://www.winterdyne.co.uk/maz/images/commissions/ultramarines2/ven_dread_wip6.jpg http://www.winterdyne.co.uk/maz/images/commissions/ultramarines2/ven_dread_wip7.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207876-commission-um-venerable-dreads-and-sicarius/#findComment-2481662 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olgerth Istaarn Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 Oooh, Forgeworld, delicious. Keep it up, if the base is any indication, the dreads will be awesome. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207876-commission-um-venerable-dreads-and-sicarius/#findComment-2481706 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jah-joshua Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 first time headin' to the Demons??? man are you in for an experience... check your ego at the door, mate... it can be rough... lookin' forward to the finished product... cheers jah Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207876-commission-um-venerable-dreads-and-sicarius/#findComment-2481907 Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterdyne Posted August 5, 2010 Author Share Posted August 5, 2010 I have no ego! That said I'm aiming for a pin... reckon the dread'll turn out good enough but the base is letting it down - looks way better in photos than it really does. Probably will redo it and chop the slabs up more this time and use the airbrush on it rather than drybrushing up which is what I did this time... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207876-commission-um-venerable-dreads-and-sicarius/#findComment-2481913 Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterdyne Posted August 6, 2010 Author Share Posted August 6, 2010 Progress: http://www.winterdyne.co.uk/maz/images/commissions/ultramarines2/ven_dread_wip8.jpg http://www.winterdyne.co.uk/maz/images/commissions/ultramarines2/ven_dread_wip9.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207876-commission-um-venerable-dreads-and-sicarius/#findComment-2482596 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad-Sam Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 Looking good. -Bad-Sam- Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207876-commission-um-venerable-dreads-and-sicarius/#findComment-2482669 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiny sam Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 ;) do you just used golden sheet or this NMM is so amazing that I can't tell the difference? I wish I can someday reach your skill Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207876-commission-um-venerable-dreads-and-sicarius/#findComment-2482751 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debauchery101 Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 looking great so far in regards to the base and high light details but the blue looks too space wolf grey to me, but it could be lighting or maybe you have another step in darkening it up? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207876-commission-um-venerable-dreads-and-sicarius/#findComment-2482829 Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterdyne Posted August 6, 2010 Author Share Posted August 6, 2010 It does look pretty light grey, once the details are painted it tones down quite a bit. Weathering will also knock it back a touch. We'll see how it goes! The gold is metallic, going from scorched brown through to mithril silver, via VMC bronze and old gold. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207876-commission-um-venerable-dreads-and-sicarius/#findComment-2482837 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debauchery101 Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 It does look pretty light grey, once the details are painted it tones down quite a bit. Weathering will also knock it back a touch. We'll see how it goes! The gold is metallic, going from scorched brown through to mithril silver, via VMC bronze and old gold. cool man i cant wait to see it finished... have you built the other dread or sicarius yet? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207876-commission-um-venerable-dreads-and-sicarius/#findComment-2482838 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrannicide Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 Well this certainly looks like a Golden-Daemon quality model. Good luck, but it doesn't seem like you'll need all that much. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207876-commission-um-venerable-dreads-and-sicarius/#findComment-2482848 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edemia Posted August 8, 2010 Share Posted August 8, 2010 I have no ego! That said I'm aiming for a pin... reckon the dread'll turn out good enough but the base is letting it down - looks way better in photos than it really does. Probably will redo it and chop the slabs up more this time and use the airbrush on it rather than drybrushing up which is what I did this time... Looks awesome so far mate. The one thing I WILL say (and this is actually from the horses mouth down at GW HQ) Don't worry TOO much about the base. At the end of the day while the base gives a nice touch to the model, its actually the model itself that the guys at GD look at. I saw Ben Jarvis' Clockmaker model, and was told that the guys didn't take the base into account at all, just the painted model on the base.... Edemia Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207876-commission-um-venerable-dreads-and-sicarius/#findComment-2484131 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Valerius Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 Looks good, but if I may... the blue is too light for Ultramarines. To my eyes, this looks like a Space Wolf dread, the only reason I know it's Ultra is because of the chapter symbol. Still, looking great. I look forward to your Sicarius! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207876-commission-um-venerable-dreads-and-sicarius/#findComment-2484656 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Chaplain Astador Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 Looks good, but if I may... the blue is too light for Ultramarines. To my eyes, this looks like a Space Wolf dread, the only reason I know it's Ultra is because of the chapter symbol. Still, looking great. I look forward to your Sicarius! In previous editions the Ultramarines were a bright blue, now they're a lot darker than they used to be. But also, as he weathers the model it will darken. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207876-commission-um-venerable-dreads-and-sicarius/#findComment-2484679 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Valerius Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 You're correct, but this is way lighter than the previous (and what I still prefer) UM blue. Still, it will most likely darken with weathering as you said. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207876-commission-um-venerable-dreads-and-sicarius/#findComment-2484941 Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterdyne Posted August 10, 2010 Author Share Posted August 10, 2010 I'm also having a lot of fun trying to get the balance right in photoshop - the red and blue are hard to balance, one or the other keeps getting oversaturated. The model in the flesh is quite a light blue (around about UM blue - lighter highlights, darker shade) and it's done zenital, which means the top surfaces are a lot lighter, which I hope is what's throwing the eye at the moment. The freehand is also going to be in white which will force the blue back in the contrast range. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207876-commission-um-venerable-dreads-and-sicarius/#findComment-2485162 Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterdyne Posted August 10, 2010 Author Share Posted August 10, 2010 Progress; not entirely happy with the freehand - think perhaps the U should have been on both sides. Still needs chipping / scratches like on the scrollwork above the helmet. http://www.winterdyne.co.uk/maz/images/commissions/ultramarines2/ven_dread_wip10.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207876-commission-um-venerable-dreads-and-sicarius/#findComment-2485327 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanhausen Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 Its looking great! Those purity seals will certainly be important to make contrast :P Freehand Omega/Laurel does look a bit odd, but not bad. However, I don't like the outer lines: maybe do to the angle of the pic, but they don't seem straight at all :P The idea is good though! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207876-commission-um-venerable-dreads-and-sicarius/#findComment-2485344 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turel Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 Whilst I understand you are striving for perfection given your intentions for this model, you should bare in mind: that which you are unhappy with is still something I and many others could not equal or indeed hope to come close to. I wish you the best of luck with this model good Sir, and I look forward to your continuing updates - be you happy with them, or not :P - Turel. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/207876-commission-um-venerable-dreads-and-sicarius/#findComment-2485684 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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