Warrior Born Question

[mustardParty]

Hello battle brothers - I have a question on an aspect of one of the SW sagas:

 

Warrior Born grants a character bonus attacks for "models he killed during the previous Assault phase." My question is whether this is meant to be a cumulative tally that respects kills made in 'all previous assault phases' over the course of the game or 'all previous assault phases for just this combat' or if it simply means 'just the most recent previous assault phase.'

 

To preface, I'm a Blood Angel player and my buddy plays Space Wolves and he insists that Warrior Born is cumulative throughout the game - so any model his Warrior Born character kills will count towards a bonus attack that character can make later on down the line now matter how long it was since he last made a kill in combat. This has lead to ca-ca-ca-crazy tallies that get added on as the game goes by to his character's Attack stat. You pups are already hard enough to beat as it is, I have to think he's reading this one wrong.

 

Seriously though what do you guys think? Thanks for you input!!

[Valerian]

Hello battle brothers - I have a question on an aspect of one of the SW sagas:

 

Warrior Born grants a character bonus attacks for "models he killed during the previous Assault phase." My question is whether this is meant to be a cumulative tally that respects kills made in 'all previous assault phases' over the course of the game or 'all previous assault phases for just this combat' or if it simply means 'just the most recent previous assault phase.'

 

To preface, I'm a Blood Angel player and my buddy plays Space Wolves and he insists that Warrior Born is cumulative throughout the game - so any model his Warrior Born character kills will count towards a bonus attack that character can make later on down the line now matter how long it was since he last made a kill in combat. This has lead to ca-ca-ca-crazy tallies that get added on as the game goes by to his character's Attack stat. You pups are already hard enough to beat as it is, I have to think he's reading this one wrong.

 

Seriously though what do you guys think? Thanks for you input!!

 

It's just kills from the last assault phase, but if you stay in assaults the tally still grows pretty big. The more attacks you have, the more you will kill, which means a larger bonus to add next time.

[mustardParty]

It's just kills from the last assault phase, but if you stay in assaults the tally still grows pretty big. The more attacks you have, the more you will kill, which means a larger bonus to add next time.

 

 

Let let me make sure I have this straight - if I'm in combat with a unit that includes say, his battle leader with a single wolf claw, that would be a base 3 attack stat. For the sake of the scenario let's say he charged in his assault phase and kills 3 of my dudes. Now in my turn his attacks would be at 6. Lets say he gets unlucky on his dice in my turn and only manages to kill an additional 1 model - now in his turn again his attacks are at 4 (3 base + 1 for warrior born) NOT 7 (3 base + 3 + 1 for his warrior born tally).

 

Does that sound about right?

[Grey Mage]

Yes, thats about how it works- the tally updates each assault round, based off the one before it. The bonus attacks can go up or done depending on your success.

[Logan230]

Yes you are correct. it states that the bonus is only the models KILLED in the PREVIOUS phase. singular.

Edit: damn you GM

[PKAwolf]

Yup as soon as he sits out a round of combat his bonus goes back to 0.

 

edit: under the most ideal setting (ie never gonna happen), a fully tooled Wolf Lord can have 84 Attack by the end of the game

4A base +1 for Thunderwolf Mount +1 extra weapon +1 for charge/counter charge = 7A each phase

6 turns with 2 assault phases and an opponent to feed fodder to the Lord

this assumes every attack lands and kills, and that each round ends in a wipeout giving the Lord a chance to charge/counter charge in the next round

[Fred Johnson the 3rd jr]

To preface, I'm a Blood Angel player and my buddy plays Space Wolves and he insists that Warrior Born is cumulative throughout the game -

 

Well you know, if he INSISTS, it must be right. Oh wait, he is horribly wrong and has trouble with reading comprehension.

[LoneSniperSG]

It's just kills from the last assault phase, but if you stay in assaults the tally still grows pretty big. The more attacks you have, the more you will kill, which means a larger bonus to add next time.

 

You know, that's starting to sound like a certain piece of wargear that Blood Angels have access to..

 

Yup as soon as he sits out a round of combat his bonus goes back to 0.

 

edit: under the most ideal setting (ie never gonna happen), a fully tooled Wolf Lord can have 84 Attack by the end of the game

4A base +1 for Thunderwolf Mount +1 extra weapon +1 for charge/counter charge = 7A each phase

6 turns with 2 assault phases and an opponent to feed fodder to the Lord

this assumes every attack lands and kills, and that each round ends in a wipeout giving the Lord a chance to charge/counter charge in the next round

 

Well.. it's not impossible. It's just not probable. With how many people play this game, and with how many of those people playing Space Wolves, it will happen in some podunk backwater place completely off the record of anyone trying to keep a tally.

[Ranwulf]

It's just kills from the last assault phase, but if you stay in assaults the tally still grows pretty big. The more attacks you have, the more you will kill, which means a larger bonus to add next time.

 

You know, that's starting to sound like a certain piece of wargear that Blood Angels have access to..

 

Which one(no, seriously, I am tired but this seems intresting)?

 

 

 

Damn, I think your friend just robbed some VP with that!

 

Oh, but SOTW is awesome. Specially with Ragnar.

 

Ran

[Heimdall Skullcrusher]

Yup as soon as he sits out a round of combat his bonus goes back to 0.

 

If you go first are in combat but kill off your opponent, then sit out your opponents assault phase but are able to assault your next turn do you get the bonuses from your last assault phase or does it go to 0?

 

I haven't played with this saga yet but was curious how it worked.

[LoneSniperSG]

It's just kills from the last assault phase, but if you stay in assaults the tally still grows pretty big. The more attacks you have, the more you will kill, which means a larger bonus to add next time.

 

You know, that's starting to sound like a certain piece of wargear that Blood Angels have access to..

 

Which one(no, seriously, I am tired but this seems intresting)?

 

 

 

Damn, I think your friend just robbed some VP with that!

 

Oh, but SOTW is awesome. Specially with Ragnar.

 

Ran

 

It's like a crappy version of Blood Talons. The more kills, the more nastiness.

[Requiem of the Wolf]

Yup as soon as he sits out a round of combat his bonus goes back to 0.

 

edit: under the most ideal setting (ie never gonna happen), a fully tooled Wolf Lord can have 84 Attack by the end of the game

4A base +1 for Thunderwolf Mount +1 extra weapon +1 for charge/counter charge = 7A each phase

6 turns with 2 assault phases and an opponent to feed fodder to the Lord

this assumes every attack lands and kills, and that each round ends in a wipeout giving the Lord a chance to charge/counter charge in the next round

 

Well,the highest I ever got was in the neighborhood of 27 attacks with my Thunderwolf Lord. I was busily ripping my way through IG Platoons. My opponent made the mistake of putting two Infantry Blobs right next to each other, and I was able to Assault both with a single model. He had them two inches apart to use as a screen for his heavy weapons and vehicles,and I ran my Lord right in-between with the Fleet movement and then Charged,so I hit btb with both squads at the same time.

[Grey Mage]

Yup as soon as he sits out a round of combat his bonus goes back to 0.

 

If you go first are in combat but kill off your opponent, then sit out your opponents assault phase but are able to assault your next turn do you get the bonuses from your last assault phase or does it go to 0?

 

I haven't played with this saga yet but was curious how it worked.

It goes to 0.

 

If you do really well on the assault and then your opponent only has 2 models left for you to kill? Yep, you dropped to +2.

 

Etc etc etc.

[Tograth]

Requiem, I would check the rulebook. it Specifically states that you cant assault more than one unit at a time with a single model.

[Grey Mage]

Requiem, I would check the rulebook. it Specifically states that you cant assault more than one unit at a time with a single model.

Theres no such restriction- its extremely difficult to pull off, but its not illegal. The closest model of the enemy unit must be close enough to a model in the other unit to allow you to be in contact with both of them.

[Requiem of the Wolf]

Requiem, I would check the rulebook. it Specifically states that you cant assault more than one unit at a time with a single model.

Theres no such restriction- its extremely difficult to pull off, but its not illegal. The closest model of the enemy unit must be close enough to a model in the other unit to allow you to be in contact with both of them.

 

Yes it was a difficult set up to do,but it worked out because of how he had set it up. The only restriction on assaulting is that you must assault the closest model.

 

a 60mm base definitely helps with that lol.

[Skirax]

And you have to remember that it's previous Assault Phase, not owning player's previous Assault Phase, so if he killed the last guys in a unit, which lets say was 2, and then you avoid him for your turn, his attacks are reset.

[Tograth]

I checked it again there- you're right, there isnt a specific restriction. It does however say that *remaining* models can assault models in enemy units.