Cpt_Reaper Posted August 4, 2010 Share Posted August 4, 2010 Was just wondering...is the Lost and the Damned still a usable army or just apoc only now? Might make a good meat-shield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Possessed Marine Posted August 4, 2010 Share Posted August 4, 2010 the lost and the damned from the eye of terror book is no longer used, as it's an old book. The lost and the damned can still be found in an apocalypse datasheet for chaos marines. Although not as good as the ones in the EoT book Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt_Reaper Posted August 4, 2010 Author Share Posted August 4, 2010 Well I have the old .PDF from the old Aussie site before it closed down, which is just the LatD. But I see your point. I think I'll use the .PDF instad of the datasheet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Possessed Marine Posted August 4, 2010 Share Posted August 4, 2010 yea, you could ask your opponent's permission to use it, but definitely won't work in a tournament Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Apostle Lorenzo Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 I was just looking over the Forge world site and came across the Renegades and Heretics Army list. its based on the new IG Codex. Might be worth a look for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlâdvar The Destroyer Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 I agree with Dark Apostle Lorenzo Codex Imperial Guard is a great way to field a LatD! for instance the Big muties can count as Ogryns & such... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronWinds Posted August 5, 2010 Share Posted August 5, 2010 I play LatD and I've tried a few. Technically you can still use the old rules. The problem wasn't the list itself being outdated as much as the new CSM codex not fitting with it well, the armories are all screwed up. So if you took the old LaTD army you wouldn't be able to equip any of your people with any special gear, and for a list thats main advantage was being able to plant a Ld 10 re-rolling champion w/ a PF(with 4 attacks) in a horde of 30 mutants that was really bad for the army. Without those champions the army really lacks anti-tank, anti-characters, and anti-MC. Â The apoc formation is crap. With that leadership they are almost guaranteed to run and just end up clogging up your advance. Â Â I've tried using the new guard dex built for close combat, Straken, priests w/ evicerators, & commisars w/ power fists in giant guard squads. It did VERY very well, but it was slow and not much fun to play. Â Â I've tried the FW Renegade list, it was actually awesome. This list IS LatD under a different name. Only downside is getting people to agree to play it. Â Next I think I might try the ork codex for counts as. A standard ork actually has a very similar profile to a mutant in the old LatD codex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Apostle Lorenzo Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 hmmm thats an idea using the ork Codex to represent the LaTD. I hadnt considered that it would work good with the chaos showing up and quitely building up a force on the planet out of what ever was to hand. Nobs and bosses maybe as CSM's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Possessed Marine Posted August 7, 2010 Share Posted August 7, 2010 hmmm thats an idea using the ork Codex to represent the LaTD. I hadnt considered that it would work good with the chaos showing up and quitely building up a force on the planet out of what ever was to hand. Nobs and bosses maybe as CSM's? that is an interesting idea, and nobs would be a decent stand in for CSM's. heck, even the looted wagon entries would be kinda fluffy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronWinds Posted August 7, 2010 Share Posted August 7, 2010 Orks=mutants Nobs=big mutants  Power klaw=power fist  Shields= demonic aura  Ork cyborg parts= mark of nurgle  Anything in their orkish power armor can be equivalent marines.  Looted marine vehicles= badly maintained heretic vehicles that are given to the lost and the damned.  Mutants old stat line, str 3 T 4 low WS, BS, and I. Orks... basically the same.  To the extreme.... Stompa= demonic warhound. To explain how all those orks(mutants) can fit in it, have ropes on the sides they can hang from to hold onto the titan on its way into combat :) .  And they fight similar to LatD. Big squads of rather weak units with very powerful individuals in them(nobs).   Orks however aren't good for traitor guard.  Traitor guard heavy LatD=Gaurd codex. Mutant heavy LatD= Ork codex.  If you want a mix of the two, or you want a lot of marines you really need the forgeworld renegade list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt_Reaper Posted August 8, 2010 Author Share Posted August 8, 2010 I have the Siege of Vraks Pt3 and it contains a nurgle based renegades list...which book has a Chaos Undivided list of renegades? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kythnos Posted August 8, 2010 Share Posted August 8, 2010 I have the Siege of Vraks Pt3 and it contains a nurgle based renegades list...which book has a Chaos Undivided list of renegades? Â Part 1 of the Vraks series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gyson_Vore Posted August 8, 2010 Share Posted August 8, 2010 The Renegades and Heretics List from the Vraks Trillogy also has an update for 5th Edition on the FW site here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Nihm Posted August 8, 2010 Share Posted August 8, 2010 http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/index.p...t&p=2240929 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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