Tizzony Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 I really liked Logan being chosen/asked by all the other chapters (except the unforgiven) to call the shots with humanity on the line. All of a sudden the fluff around the 13th crusade is gone. why? Anyone Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208065-13th-black-crusade-what-happened/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max_Dammit Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 they got there but whooped back in to the eye and thats that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208065-13th-black-crusade-what-happened/#findComment-2482287 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitzkreig Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 Didn't Chaos actually accomplish whatever goal they had for the 13th Black Crusade? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208065-13th-black-crusade-what-happened/#findComment-2482290 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tizzony Posted August 6, 2010 Author Share Posted August 6, 2010 I mean there is not a word of it in any 5th edition codex. It was one of the most important conflicts in the galaxy. Seems strange to me that its not mentioned anymore. Seeing how they mention 1st Armageddon how can they not even have a footnote on 13th black crusade? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208065-13th-black-crusade-what-happened/#findComment-2482293 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitzkreig Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 Because the codicies and the timeline as a whole are frozen in time right the crusade if i am not mistaken. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208065-13th-black-crusade-what-happened/#findComment-2482299 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stryke Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 I don't mean t thread-jack, but while were on the subject of the EoT campaign, does anyone actually know if Logan did meet some members from the 13th company? I heard he did but wasn't sure if it was just fan fluff and I haven't been able to confirm it as GW canon. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208065-13th-black-crusade-what-happened/#findComment-2482353 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune Priest Ridcully Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 could it be possible GW are doing what they are doing with Storm Of Chaos, sweeping it under the rug and hoping it is forgotton, a shame, but hey this is the new GW, anything that suggests they have to do anything for their customers is a big nono. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208065-13th-black-crusade-what-happened/#findComment-2482387 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Clinto Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 From talking with a friend that was a middle-manager at GW US HQ during the EoT campaign I gather that Chaos unofficially won the campaign. His reasoning was how decimated the "good" forces were around the Eye & the fact that there are still battles going on for control of Cadia itself. Abaddon didn't acheive his goal of opening the Cadian Gate fully but aparently the pure destruction of imperial forces was more then satisfactory to him. He also said there were rumored/thrown around plans at GW for the 13th company to come home. Logan and the SW weren't fully trusting of them though so instead of being given their old space in the Fang they were going to be stationed on Fenris' moon. I was a little sad when I saw very little mention of the 13th company in the new Codex but I'll take it over the 3rd ed. Now, take all this info with a grain of salt. This is 3rd hand info from ~5 years ago from a company that isn't as bad with lore as say Blizzard Entertainment but still pretty bad. Most of this stuff was most likely permanently shelved. One can hope for the next codex though. =) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208065-13th-black-crusade-what-happened/#findComment-2482398 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmurph Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 Yeah, doubt a middle manager got a straight story from the dev team. Especially given how many people have changed on the team anyway. More likely, it is just another SoC- all sound and fury, signifying nothing. After all, check out Eldrad in the Eldar codex. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208065-13th-black-crusade-what-happened/#findComment-2482494 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Betrayed_Spacewolf Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 ok chaos won their primary ie holding most of cadia, however the forces of order held the shipping lanes and the space around cadia. logan offered the 13th a chance to return to the fang however they nixed it and continued hunting for leman and the thousand sons. and yes it did go the way of storm of chaos, especially when during the opening games eldrad :cusspawned abbaddon. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208065-13th-black-crusade-what-happened/#findComment-2482585 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitzkreig Posted August 7, 2010 Share Posted August 7, 2010 From talking with a friend that was a middle-manager at GW US HQ during the EoT campaign I gather that Chaos unofficially won the campaign. His reasoning was how decimated the "good" forces were around the Eye & the fact that there are still battles going on for control of Cadia itself. Abaddon didn't acheive his goal of opening the Cadian Gate fully but aparently the pure destruction of imperial forces was more then satisfactory to him. He also said there were rumored/thrown around plans at GW for the 13th company to come home. Logan and the SW weren't fully trusting of them though so instead of being given their old space in the Fang they were going to be stationed on Fenris' moon. I was a little sad when I saw very little mention of the 13th company in the new Codex but I'll take it over the 3rd ed. Now, take all this info with a grain of salt. This is 3rd hand info from ~5 years ago from a company that isn't as bad with lore as say Blizzard Entertainment but still pretty bad. Most of this stuff was most likely permanently shelved. One can hope for the next codex though. =) You lost me at the bolded part. Sure, guys who have spent 10,000 years in the Eye of Terror aren't going to be given everything straight up and fully trusted, but out of all the Chapters, the Space Wolves are the definetly going to at least welcome them back into the Fang, hell Bjorn probably knows half of the 13th company... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208065-13th-black-crusade-what-happened/#findComment-2483075 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillen Posted August 7, 2010 Share Posted August 7, 2010 LOL true dat, I bet Bjorn would be like "WOW man, good to see you. So where is that 50 I loaned you?" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208065-13th-black-crusade-what-happened/#findComment-2483144 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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