archangel23 Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 I was reading my codex yesterday and noticed there is not an option for the Space Wolves Characters to have a retinue. Is this a missprint or are they not allowed to have them? Just wondering as I am building my army as we speak. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208086-space-wolf-characters/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 nope. we dont have one. but honestly i don't count it as a loss. if you want a retinue throw you HQ in with grey hunters. there good like that. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208086-space-wolf-characters/#findComment-2482637 Share on other sites More sharing options...
archangel23 Posted August 6, 2010 Author Share Posted August 6, 2010 Thanks that is what I needed to know. Its been years since I played SW, so theres a learning curve wth the new rules. This time I'm modeling Bran Redmaw's Great Company. By the way, are bolters and ccw considered two hand weapons as with the old codex. I see them modeled with bolters and ccw, and bolt pistols and ccw. Just wondering if the +1 for two hand weapons comes into play here. I'm betting not though as I see no referance to it. Thanks again, Matt D. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208086-space-wolf-characters/#findComment-2482655 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirax Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 Grey Hunters have Boltgun, Bolt Pistol and CCW, which means you can get the +1 Attack in CC. If you're worried about Wolf Lords losing a retinue, there's a tasty Elite choice called Wolf Guard in there :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208086-space-wolf-characters/#findComment-2482664 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlk Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 Grey Hunters have a bolter, a bolt pistol AND a CCW (see the troops section, p. 89). That means they can use their bolters AND receive a +1A bonus in close combat. Edit: damn you Skirax! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208086-space-wolf-characters/#findComment-2482666 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirax Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 Edit: damn you Skirax! Bring it, pup :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208086-space-wolf-characters/#findComment-2482789 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wysten Posted August 6, 2010 Share Posted August 6, 2010 The only offical honour guard is the wolf guard, and even then the Wolves are pretty flexable with how they dot them out. Often spreading them out to lead by example, and wolf lords are the kind of fellows who would intermingle with their troops anyways to maximise bloodshed/command effectiveness. That being said, don't get much better then a reinue of Grey Hunters with Wolf Banner and Guard, the rerolls effectively make them effectively better Terminators when it comes to armour saves and makes the wolf lord completely ignore lesser attacks when encased in runic armour. Pretty much a improvised honour guard to me. Though lately I've been inspired to think of a Land Raider redeemer/crusaider full of power weapon weilding Guard with Hammerlord. Probably slice through pretty much anything on a good charge with a tank barrage first. Though not sure whether to spend 5 points more to make them all termies. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208086-space-wolf-characters/#findComment-2482859 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarapham Posted August 7, 2010 Share Posted August 7, 2010 The old retinue rules have been phased away from all new codex' so now it´s just ICs joining pretty much whoever they wish with no "real special" bodyguards, although wolf guard are of course the guys to go to. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208086-space-wolf-characters/#findComment-2483219 Share on other sites More sharing options...
slmellon Posted August 7, 2010 Share Posted August 7, 2010 Grey Hunters have a bolter, a bolt pistol AND a CCW (see the troops section, p. 89). That means they can use their bolters AND receive a +1A bonus in close combat. I thought you could not fire rapid fire weapons and assault. they can fire bolters and not assault or bolt pistols and assault. But i could be wrong Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208086-space-wolf-characters/#findComment-2483343 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hfran Morkai Posted August 7, 2010 Share Posted August 7, 2010 Grey Hunters have a bolter, a bolt pistol AND a CCW (see the troops section, p. 89). That means they can use their bolters AND receive a +1A bonus in close combat. I thought you could not fire rapid fire weapons and assault. they can fire bolters and not assault or bolt pistols and assault. But i could be wrong You'd be right, if you fire your Bolter they cannot assault. However our common tactic is rushing up to rapid fire range, unloading as much pain as possible and counter-attacking the foe who thinks smacking us is a good idea. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208086-space-wolf-characters/#findComment-2483352 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitzkreig Posted August 8, 2010 Share Posted August 8, 2010 Grey Hunters have a bolter, a bolt pistol AND a CCW (see the troops section, p. 89). That means they can use their bolters AND receive a +1A bonus in close combat. I thought you could not fire rapid fire weapons and assault. they can fire bolters and not assault or bolt pistols and assault. But i could be wrong You'd be right, if you fire your Bolter they cannot assault. However our common tactic is rushing up to rapid fire range, unloading as much pain as possible and counter-attacking the foe who thinks smacking us is a good idea. I love doing that, Wolf Guard Battle Leader and a squad of Grey Hunters took out a Grey Knight Grand Master and his Terminators doing that ^_^. Of course, Counter-attack is rather unreliable without some form of Leadership boost in the squad I find. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208086-space-wolf-characters/#findComment-2483600 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Betrayed_Spacewolf Posted August 8, 2010 Share Posted August 8, 2010 the retinue rule that allowed you to put wounds on other guys in combat is pretty much getting phased out. its been the bane of a few of my wolf lords. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208086-space-wolf-characters/#findComment-2483646 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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