Jonas Stromclaw Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 This came up during a Kill Team game between and my ork buddy when we both had a model with both counter attack and Furious Charge USRs. Quite simply, does a model get furious charge when counter attacking? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208264-counter-attack-and-furious-charge/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isiah Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 This came up during a Kill Team game between and my ork buddy when we both had a model with both counter attack and Furious Charge USRs. Quite simply, does a model get furious charge when counter attacking? No. FC is only gained by models that initially make the assault into combat [bRB p 75]. Counter Attack isn't assaulting per se, but a counter-attack – in other words a reaction to being assaulted. Cheers I Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208264-counter-attack-and-furious-charge/#findComment-2484927 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurglez Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 I would have to disagree. to quote the space wolf codex faq regarding ragnar: "The counter attack special rule states 'all models in the unit get the +1 assault bonus to their attacks, exactly as if they too had assaulted that turn' Therefore Ragnar's unit does indeed benefit from furious charge" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208264-counter-attack-and-furious-charge/#findComment-2484950 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeattleDV8 Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 SW FAQ "...A. The Counter-attack special rule only confers the +1 assault bonus and no other advantages normally associated with assaulting. Therefore Ragnar’s unit does not benefit from Furious Charge." Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208264-counter-attack-and-furious-charge/#findComment-2484955 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty the Pyro Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 I would have to disagree. to quote the space wolf codex faq regarding ragnar: "The counter attack special rule states 'all models in the unit get the +1 assault bonus to their attacks, exactly as if they too had assaulted that turn' Therefore Ragnar's unit does indeed benefit from furious charge" that has been removed from the FAQ (mostly because it was realy dumb), please download the latest version. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208264-counter-attack-and-furious-charge/#findComment-2484996 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Stromclaw Posted August 10, 2010 Author Share Posted August 10, 2010 Thanks for the quick replies brothers, we will make sure to act accordingly. In case you're interested in that battle we actually decided to let counter attack grant furious charge too which ended up creating a rather amusing blood bath. My Lone Wolf carved through four nobs like they weren't even there :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208264-counter-attack-and-furious-charge/#findComment-2484999 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 I would have to disagree. to quote the space wolf codex faq regarding ragnar: "The counter attack special rule states 'all models in the unit get the +1 assault bonus to their attacks, exactly as if they too had assaulted that turn' Therefore Ragnar's unit does indeed benefit from furious charge" Yeah... that lasted about a week, before everyone realised how horribly game breaking it was. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208264-counter-attack-and-furious-charge/#findComment-2485069 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurglez Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 ah, silly me for not realising they updated this whoops :) and did think it was a bit over powered... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208264-counter-attack-and-furious-charge/#findComment-2485113 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShinyRhino Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 Doubly game breaking when people decided to apply it to Iron Hand Straken-led 50-man IG Blob Squads. Oh boy! 100 attacks when receiving a charge at S4, I4! *facepalm* Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208264-counter-attack-and-furious-charge/#findComment-2485277 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted August 10, 2010 Share Posted August 10, 2010 Doubly game breaking when people decided to apply it to Iron Hand Straken-led 50-man IG Blob Squads. Oh boy! 100 attacks when receiving a charge at S4, I4! *facepalm* Lets not forget Jain Zar- 31 PW attacks, at S4 I 10, and 4 at S7 I10.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208264-counter-attack-and-furious-charge/#findComment-2485566 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurglez Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 yeah, well i should have realised that me being right and grey mage being wrong wasn't likely... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208264-counter-attack-and-furious-charge/#findComment-2491849 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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