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Mythicast have finally released pics of their Iron Priest Thunder Wolf & Cybernetic Wolves. Here are the links:

 

http://www.flickr.com/photos/52198624@N07/...57624444746143/

 

http://www.mythicast.com/2010_08_01_archive.html

 

Personally I don't like the them very much. They are not as good as their previous TWC. What do you guys think?

One day Forgeworld will eventually get around to releasing some Cyberwolves, Thunderwolf Cavalry and some Fenrisian Wolves..

 

I'm all game for kit bashing. Bjorn can be Kit-bashed from the FW Dread and the available arms, perhaps adding a bit of Green stuff here and there to mould the 'Fell-hand'

 

But it's extremely difficult to mould a complete new Thunderwolf when there are no suitable Wolves of the right size produced by GW. And since we're not allowed to game in store, or at tournaments, with other companies products, (which makes sense), we're caught between a Rock and a hard place.

 

I hate to bash anybodies kitbashing skills and Green stuffing skills, but I am yet to see a 'top-class' pure scratch mould from Green stuff for the Wolves of Fenris, and I'm sure the vast majority of your Average modellers do not posses the quality to scratch-build, (Me included).

 

Frustrating to be given such a excellent and fluffy unit, only to be hindered by a lack of releases or information, although this isn't the first time this has happened.

I have to say, I both and agree and disagree with you on a couple things there, Sharpsilver. my first 'disagreement' is about forgeworlds release, mostly because at 60$ (for the 5 TWC) that's a damn fine price, whereas I have a hard time buying from forgeworld simply because they are not cheap for stateside.

 

I completely agree that its ridiculously difficult to make a passable thunderwolf. I used chaos wolves, and quite frankly, I don't want to show them on most sites because they just aren't great, even with greenstuffed fur, tails and all the chaos stuff filed off, they're just not the right size, and I'm not fond of the chaos horseman cavalry look.

 

See my first disagreement with your opinion of the not having seen a 'top class' scratch, I love Mythicasts 5 pack of twc and when my wife gives me the o.k. to spend 60$ those bad boys are mine! I also don't agree with your idea that it makes sense that you shouldn't be able to use a model that gw didn't make when they DIDN"T MAKE the model themselves. What do they expect us to buy?!

 

I will however agree with your frustration at them giving us our awesome and fluffy, mysterious, and powerful TWC, then just shrug when we say 'but we don't have a model'.

 

All in all I love mythicasts TWC, and but I do have to agree that it doesn't seem techy enough to be an Iron Priests mount. Forced to agree with PKAwolf and say that it does not look as good as the 5 pack of twc....which i love.

.. uhm.. I think they're violating copyright boardroom crap by marketing those items as being Fenrisian Wolves..

 

it was explained to me that if you provide such a service for models made by a third party, like this, they can't be listed as being intended for use as something in our army lists. So that person really should not market that item as being Cyber-wolves for an Iron Priest. They could get in trouble.

.. uhm.. I think they're violating copyright boardroom crap by marketing those items as being Fenrisian Wolves..

 

it was explained to me that if you provide such a service for models made by a third party, like this, they can't be listed as being intended for use as something in our army lists. So that person really should not market that item as being Cyber-wolves for an Iron Priest. They could get in trouble.

 

Philippines dont care for British law would be there defence <_<

I have to say, I both and agree and disagree with you on a couple things there, Sharpsilver. my first 'disagreement' is about forgeworlds release, mostly because at 60$ (for the 5 TWC) that's a damn fine price, whereas I have a hard time buying from forgeworld simply because they are not cheap for stateside.

 

I completely agree that its ridiculously difficult to make a passable thunderwolf. I used chaos wolves, and quite frankly, I don't want to show them on most sites because they just aren't great, even with greenstuffed fur, tails and all the chaos stuff filed off, they're just not the right size, and I'm not fond of the chaos horseman cavalry look.

 

See my first disagreement with your opinion of the not having seen a 'top class' scratch, I love Mythicasts 5 pack of twc and when my wife gives me the o.k. to spend 60$ those bad boys are mine! I also don't agree with your idea that it makes sense that you shouldn't be able to use a model that gw didn't make when they DIDN"T MAKE the model themselves. What do they expect us to buy?!

 

I will however agree with your frustration at them giving us our awesome and fluffy, mysterious, and powerful TWC, then just shrug when we say 'but we don't have a model'.

 

All in all I love mythicasts TWC, and but I do have to agree that it doesn't seem techy enough to be an Iron Priests mount. Forced to agree with PKAwolf and say that it does not look as good as the 5 pack of twc....which i love.

 

The reason GW don't allow other companies products Tournaments and GW Stores is that, I imagine, every Mythicast product bought is £££/$$$ lost for GW/Forgeworld when they eventually get their act together and release their sculpts. This means that, if somebody wants to compete or play with TWC/Fenrisian Wolves/Cyberwolves under a GW roof/Tournament they are forced to splash out cash on the models when they are eventually released. This policy is damage-limitation while they develop the sculpts and gurantee that there will be a market for those products. IF GW allow other companies products they are opening the door to the competition.

 

Forgeworld are never cheap anywhere. Even in the UK they are expensive for the generally quality products they provide, which is expected, although I feel for the guys across the pond where they have to have it shipped over for quite a bit more.

 

GW don't expect us to buy anything. They want to get hype up and as soon as the FW sculpts are released, they will fly off the shelves (What they hope) and which will inevitably happen.

 

Although, like somebody else in this thread has already stated, they are in fact infringing several Legal matters of GW with them advertising like that, and I wouldn't be surprised if they have already been approached by the GW Legal department and by the looks of it, it doesn't look like a very large enterprise, therefore, I expect sometime in the future for it to be shut-down in one foul swoop.

 

If not shut-down they will be presented with a Cease and Desist letter by the Lawyers asking for them to remove the Products infringing the GW IP. I'm not exactly sure how a British firm would go about approaching a Philippine-based company, or whether they will even abide with the Law.

 

Get them while you can.

When you see the bases that they send out with their models you realise that use of the word fenrisian is the least of their problems

 

Bits of dreadnought

Marks of Khorne

Inquisition symbols

chainswords litter them

 

I have warned the company that GW won't stand for it but it seems they either don't care or feel they are immune.

 

My advice get your orders in before the law suit takes place

 

As for GW not allowing other peoples models in tournaments, if you have some GW bits on a model they rarely say anything at countless tournaments since the new dex came out ive seen Mr DAndy wolves at warhammer world

When you see the bases that they send out with their models you realise that use of the word fenrisian is the least of their problems

 

Bits of dreadnought

Marks of Khorne

Inquisition symbols

chainswords litter them

 

I have warned the company that GW won't stand for it but it seems they either don't care or feel they are immune.

 

My advice get your orders in before the law suit takes place

 

As for GW not allowing other peoples models in tournaments, if you have some GW bits on a model they rarely say anything at countless tournaments since the new dex came out ive seen Mr DAndy wolves at warhammer world

 

Oh even worse than I thought.

 

They have no chance. :)

Why do people feel a need to be the IP police? Let them handle their own business- buy it if you like it or, if not, don't. Personally, I have no problem with them using GW bits to make sculpts but the bases had too many skulls for my tastes and look like an undead/daemon base. But they were free, so thumbs up to Mythicast for that.

 

As to the wolf, it's more wolf then machine, but a solid sculpt. I added some mechanicus style trim to the legs (the "cog" style banding) and used a SM vehicle torso (with the mechanicus skull), WG terminator thunderhammer, wolf pack bolter, mechanical targetter head from the commander box and an old Iron Priest back pieces for the servo arm. Also added a few details such as wolf tails and a wolf tooth necklace. Makes a nifty Iron Priest almost entirely out of plastic!

Why do people feel a need to be the IP police? Let them handle their own business- buy it if you like it or, if not, don't. Personally, I have no problem with them using GW bits to make sculpts but the bases had too many skulls for my tastes and look like an undead/daemon base. But they were free, so thumbs up to Mythicast for that.

 

As to the wolf, it's more wolf then machine, but a solid sculpt. I added some mechanicus style trim to the legs (the "cog" style banding) and used a SM vehicle torso (with the mechanicus skull), WG terminator thunderhammer, wolf pack bolter, mechanical targetter head from the commander box and an old Iron Priest back pieces for the servo arm. Also added a few details such as wolf tails and a wolf tooth necklace. Makes a nifty Iron Priest almost entirely out of plastic!

Then they shouldn't complain when GW hits them with a writ

Look again. I see Ferinsian Wolves... not Fenrisian Wolves.

 

Will that stop lawyers... maybe, but probably not.

 

Then you need to look closer. It is spelled Fenrisian. I think it's nice to have alternative models to GW products, ESPECIALLY when they are much cheaper then anything GW will charge. If GW isn't intellegent enough to furnish models for their ranges then it's fair game in my book for others to capitalize on missing materials.

Why do people feel a need to be the IP police? Let them handle their own business- buy it if you like it or, if not, don't. Personally, I have no problem with them using GW bits to make sculpts but the bases had too many skulls for my tastes and look like an undead/daemon base. But they were free, so thumbs up to Mythicast for that.

 

It doesn't have anything with me not liking it. It's the fact that because they don't do things right, they'll get shut down and leave us all dissapointed. It's just another side of plain old half-assing.

 

If you're going to start a business venture like sculpting mini's for use in wargaming, read the policies of all the companies whose games may be affected by your product and stay within their restrictions. Make yourself bullet-proof and solid and you'll sell more stuff. DUH. Especially if you're going to advertise on Warseer and B&C, where GW spies frequently go.

  • 4 weeks later...

Mythicast is awesome! I know they may have had some problems in the past on eBay but they are rock solid now. Got a damaged set and Paulo at Mythicast.com made it right. Great communication and he has been great to work with. Very prompt on emails and very pleasant to work with. If you have any questions just hit him up.

 

I ordered the Thunderwolf calvary and the Iron Priest mount. I can post pictures of the items but they are spot on with the pics on the link above.

 

Best looking set I have seen yet and I'm looking forward to getting the Wolf Lord mount next once I get the funds :)

 

Hit me on PM if you have any questions.

 

-AR

If GW didn't want to lose sells then they should not have waited over a year to get something out we can use. Where there is a consumer need, there will be a supplier.

 

^^ This, this a thousand times THIS!

I have some of mythicasts wolves waiting for me at the post office because I can't get cyber wolves/TWMs from GW/FW.

My housemate who plays Tyranids has done similar things for his units that they don't have models.

 

If I could find a retailer who would sell me a Wolf Priest in TDA I would totally buy it and GW's complaints about IP be damned.

  • 3 weeks later...
Well, I just ordered the IP set today... well see how it goes.

So, I got mine in the mail.

 

I have to admit, Im impressed. The legs that come on it- and are intrinsic to the model- seem a little small, but well see how it goes once I get the torsos on there. Im stealing a page out of Max's book and making it swapable.

 

Ive shown the bare mini to my friends, before I started painting it, and they were all floored.

 

Easily three steps above that rat faced canis model.

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