pucadubh Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 For those of you who haven't seen it, the new Forgeworld Caestus Assault Ram is cool and the rules and images can be found here http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/New_Stuff/CAES...SSAULT-RAM.html My question is what would you put in it from a Space Wolf perspective in 2 scenarios, with Special Characters and without Special Characters? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208337-what-squad-would-you-put-in-the-new-caestus/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hfran Morkai Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 Terminators... Lots and lots of Terminators, with various characters attached. If money was no issue I'd mount my entire Great Company in them, because I'm building a planetary invasion force XD Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208337-what-squad-would-you-put-in-the-new-caestus/#findComment-2485923 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aramis_the_Red Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 Terminators... Lots and lots of Terminators... Agreed wholeheartedly. No other vehicle short of a TH fragging gunship can carry that many Termies, and it's an assault vehicle. Personally, I'd load it up with combi-termie wg w/ pw and a couple of fists, maybe a storm shield or two, and leave it in regular reserve. On the turn it comes in, run it 36 inches straight from the board edge into the biggest scariest armor in range, and honestly I hope the CAR blows up so I can use the termies to smash the juicies inside. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208337-what-squad-would-you-put-in-the-new-caestus/#findComment-2485937 Share on other sites More sharing options...
smurf-o-wolve Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 correct me if i'm wrong but i thought you can't disembark from a vehicle after it has done a flat out Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208337-what-squad-would-you-put-in-the-new-caestus/#findComment-2485956 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchell93 Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 9 wolf guard terminators and a terminator wolflord but alas it will never happen because it is £92!!!!!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208337-what-squad-would-you-put-in-the-new-caestus/#findComment-2485959 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aramis_the_Red Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 correct me if i'm wrong but i thought you can't disembark from a vehicle after it has done a flat out You can't... That is unless it is destroyed by say ramming it into a landraider. At which point, you have to disembark and take a pinning test. If you pass, you should be free to do anything except assault, which is where all those combi weapons come into play. ><_< Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208337-what-squad-would-you-put-in-the-new-caestus/#findComment-2485974 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pucadubh Posted August 11, 2010 Author Share Posted August 11, 2010 Is the Iron Priest worth including for the extras (e.g. distance with the Iron Wolf Saga)? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208337-what-squad-would-you-put-in-the-new-caestus/#findComment-2486032 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolf363839 Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 Is the Iron Priest worth including for the extras (e.g. distance with the Iron Wolf Saga)? only as a big decoy... because even accompanied by 4 cyberwolves and an IC or 2, it's just not gonna give the punch of WG. Also remember that the Iron Priest isn't an IC himself so you can't attach him to another unit. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208337-what-squad-would-you-put-in-the-new-caestus/#findComment-2486083 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xeenos Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 10 Wolves! Woot! :D "As a result the Caestus Assault Ram has a transport capacity of ten models which must be either be in power armour, artificer armour or terminator armour (models in terminator armour only counting as one model rather than two for transport as normally would be the case)." 3 Lone Wolves and 7 whatever else? Dosnt say one squad.. *shrug* Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208337-what-squad-would-you-put-in-the-new-caestus/#findComment-2486085 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chodjinn Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 I don't think they would let you do that, although it would be nice. Having read the rules (which are awesome) aside from the purchase price the thing is a beast. I think I may have to get one for my Wolfwing build. Logan, Arjac, and 8 other TDAs is just tooooo much of a temptation!!! But with an arrangement like that, you are looking at a 1200point hammer squad (at least) - Logan/Arjac/Caestus are around 700pnts on their own!!! :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208337-what-squad-would-you-put-in-the-new-caestus/#findComment-2486126 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vassakov Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 If we are using Special Characters, Logan and TDA is probably the nastiest combination in our Codex, and off the top of my head... only Lemerates + Tooled up DC strikes much more fear into me. Without characters? Grey Hunters with Melta, Power Fist and a Wulfen. It's cheap enough to be viable (~ 400 points wise, that is!), and could push most things off any objective, especially if you can use the Melta weapons to bust a transport then charge through the ruins. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208337-what-squad-would-you-put-in-the-new-caestus/#findComment-2486131 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurglez Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 how about ragnar and a bunch of wolf guard with power weapons/frost blades/few powerfists. that would totally kill anything, dead :( Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208337-what-squad-would-you-put-in-the-new-caestus/#findComment-2486166 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfpack Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 I would have to favor the WGT squads...10 of em with ass can, SBs and FBs or FAs and a couple combi meltas for good measure...pretty much wipe out any holding force they hit...if no objectives then run em right into the biggest armor/beasty and let em burn it down...hehehe Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208337-what-squad-would-you-put-in-the-new-caestus/#findComment-2486182 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodgambit Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 I think id also go with termies just because the mobility for such a large pack. If you wanted to really hammer someone go with ragnar and a cheap wolf priest for rerolling hits. To keep the cost down go with mostly base termies then throw in a fist or hammer. Id definitely look to ram something out of reserve and next turn disembark and assault then send the caestus to ram something else. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208337-what-squad-would-you-put-in-the-new-caestus/#findComment-2486330 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chodjinn Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 As far as I'm concerned the Caestus is a gift for terminators - putting anything non-TDA is a waste of it's capabilities - nothing else can transport 10 TDA like that. Running PA squads you may as well use a DP/Rhino which is so much cheaper or with big Blood Claw squads, a Crusader with Wolf Priest. Definitely TDA I think! :) but with that comes cost, and hence big, big games! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208337-what-squad-would-you-put-in-the-new-caestus/#findComment-2486355 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Requiem of the Wolf Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 Ragnar,Wolf Priest in TDA,8 Terminator Wolfguard,3 with Frost Blade and Storm Shield,2 with Assault Cannon and Powersword,3 with twin Wolf Claws. Furious Charge(If i remember Ragnar's abilities correctly,it applies to his squad too) +d3 attacks,reroll misses,and almost half reroll wounds. The Assault Cannons will without a doubt open up any armor that you point it at,assuming the magna melta didn't. But unfortunately I will never be able to use one of these things,I don't play in Apocalypse games. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208337-what-squad-would-you-put-in-the-new-caestus/#findComment-2486375 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfpack Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 @Req...wouldn't need to be an APOC game...just a larger points game...and to add the additional heavy to your WGT you need to take ten... @ Chod...again yes lotsa points but not necessarily say an APOC game...a well balanced WGT squad ten strong can carry a moderate points game for SW players...say 3000? Definately not something for tourneys but just for the havin and the ABILITY to use it if the chance ever came up...10 WGT 3 with FB and SB, 2 with Asscan, Arjac, 2 with SB and CF...and the last two with claws...definately a good all around 'pound the enemy' unit Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208337-what-squad-would-you-put-in-the-new-caestus/#findComment-2486713 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wysten Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 A fully kitted out Lone Wolf. Just kidding! To me it's speed is equally an asset, so blinged out I would run: 3 Termies with PW and SB. 2 basic Wolf Guard with Power Fist 1 Assualt Cannon 1 Basic Wolf Guard Double Wolf Claws 1 Combi Flamer 1 StormSheild Wolf Lord/Wolf Guard Leader with either Double wolf claws + Belt of Russ. Or Frost Blade + Storm Shield. Pretty costly to me, so I would probably cut corners on the termie armour and just rely on the speed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208337-what-squad-would-you-put-in-the-new-caestus/#findComment-2486867 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Requiem of the Wolf Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 @Req...wouldn't need to be an APOC game...just a larger points game...and to add the additional heavy to your WGT you need to take ten... @ Chod...again yes lotsa points but not necessarily say an APOC game...a well balanced WGT squad ten strong can carry a moderate points game for SW players...say 3000? Definately not something for tourneys but just for the havin and the ABILITY to use it if the chance ever came up...10 WGT 3 with FB and SB, 2 with Asscan, Arjac, 2 with SB and CF...and the last two with claws...definately a good all around 'pound the enemy' unit Well yes I would be taking 10. More then likely using them as ablative wounds for my long fangs. And generally we don't allow FW stuff unless its Apocalypse and most times not even then. But it would be hilarious to use lol. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208337-what-squad-would-you-put-in-the-new-caestus/#findComment-2486909 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfpack Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 yes it would just the look of "what the...hey....!!!" on yer opponents face then to see a squad of ten of our finest emerge to batter his army to pulp...lmao...not very sporting of me but howling as they obliterate say a landraider or something comperable and then move up the line stomping heads as they go???... reminds me of that credit card commercial... Priceless... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208337-what-squad-would-you-put-in-the-new-caestus/#findComment-2487111 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune_Priest_Rhapsody Posted August 12, 2010 Share Posted August 12, 2010 I would put my custom Grimnar and 9 TDA Wolf Guard 'friends' to accompany him. I do like the idea of dropping Ragnar into a squad as well for his charge ability. I can see that causing serious hurt. ..on top of the hurt the Caestus already inflicts. -R_P_R Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208337-what-squad-would-you-put-in-the-new-caestus/#findComment-2487182 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geass Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 I only have one problem with it, the fact that i can't put models with Runic Armour in it. That is going on the fact that runic armor is not included in the list of armor that you are allowed to put in the C.A.R. Like how you can't put scouts in it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208337-what-squad-would-you-put-in-the-new-caestus/#findComment-2487617 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 I only have one problem with it, the fact that i can't put models with Runic Armour in it. That is going on the fact that runic armor is not included in the list of armor that you are allowed to put in the C.A.R. Like how you can't put scouts in it. Yes... you can. You cant put scouts in it, but Runic Armor is specificly stated to be a type of Power Armor. And Power Armor is allowed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208337-what-squad-would-you-put-in-the-new-caestus/#findComment-2487627 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geass Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 Ahh ok I wasn't to sure on the matter but all of my friends thought it was funny that Runic Armour was missed out, and i didn't bother to look if it was a type of power armor or not. Thanks for the clarification Grey Mage Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208337-what-squad-would-you-put-in-the-new-caestus/#findComment-2487663 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 The interesting thing is that while Runic Armor says this, our codex brethrens Artificer Armor makes no such mention... wich is probly where certain assumptions come in. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208337-what-squad-would-you-put-in-the-new-caestus/#findComment-2487671 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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