fivepointedstar Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 My thoughts are I'm making a dragon rider model with the lizardman carnosuar model. It is bigger than the dreadnought 40k model base. Is it legal to use in a tourny?' If the model overlapes the base, and or the base is larger than round 40mm can larger bases be used? Im assuming homegrown rules it would be ok. But legally would a large monster base work? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208367-using-different-bases-per-a-count-as-model/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawk Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 What is it supposed to be representing? That's the real question. If it's supposed to be a counts-as dreadnought, put it on the dreadnought base. Besides, it more than easily fits on it. Where would we be if models could only take up a horizontal piece of air as wide as their base? Wraithlords, daemon(s) princes, and anything else that big would be doing the stick figure dance, looking like bean poles. We got away from the 2nd edition wraithlord model-style for a reason! Dynamic modeling is the name of the game. Just place it so that it works the best for gaming, as well as being aesthetically pleasing. That way you're happy and your opponents are happy. As far as tournaments are concerned, the best way to find that out is by showing the organizer a picture of it well in advance before the day. It's up to them to allow or disallow such models. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208367-using-different-bases-per-a-count-as-model/#findComment-2486245 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isiah Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 I agree with Seahawk. Personally I can't see it being allowed in a tourney as it is so different in both size and look. . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208367-using-different-bases-per-a-count-as-model/#findComment-2486335 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fivepointedstar Posted August 11, 2010 Author Share Posted August 11, 2010 What is it supposed to be representing? That's the real question. If it's supposed to be a counts-as dreadnought, put it on the dreadnought base. Besides, it more than easily fits on it. Where would we be if models could only take up a horizontal piece of air as wide as their base? Wraithlords, daemon(s) princes, and anything else that big would be doing the stick figure dance, looking like bean poles. We got away from the 2nd edition wraithlord model-style for a reason! Dynamic modeling is the name of the game. Just place it so that it works the best for gaming, as well as being aesthetically pleasing. That way you're happy and your opponents are happy. As far as tournaments are concerned, the best way to find that out is by showing the organizer a picture of it well in advance before the day. It's up to them to allow or disallow such models. I would be using a carnosuar model, and last time i looked it was bigger, and longer than the dread base. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208367-using-different-bases-per-a-count-as-model/#findComment-2486356 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellios Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 I agree with Seahawk. Personally I can't see it being allowed in a tourney as it is so different in both size and look. . As it is bigger (???) it should be easier to get LoS on it and the base is used for distance anyway so the fact it over-laps shouldn't be an issue... no the two issues I see are weapon representation... not so bad if it is a CC dread... and also armour facings... which might or might not be easy to tell depending on the position it is in... AKA face = front... butt = rear (see what I did thar?) and sides = side... I think you might be ok but I would check with the tourny organiser... it is better to be safe than sorry... also all your dreads are carnosaurs right... not one of each? because that might also cause you issues. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208367-using-different-bases-per-a-count-as-model/#findComment-2486398 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawk Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 I would be using a carnosuar model, and last time i looked it was bigger, and longer than the dread base.Well yea the carnosaur model, but what will it be counting as? A dreadnought? Bike? Landspeeder? That's what determines what base it should go on, to match with other units in the game. As for its length, its head and arms stick out yes, but its feet are together. Plus, it's based on a 50mm square base in the GW pic, so that should give you an idea as to how it will look on a 50mm round. It'll fit just fine, methinks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208367-using-different-bases-per-a-count-as-model/#findComment-2486428 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fivepointedstar Posted August 11, 2010 Author Share Posted August 11, 2010 cold ones= bikes carnosuars= furioso dreads stegadon= hs dread. or open to thoughts.. harpy wings on jp= jump infantry Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208367-using-different-bases-per-a-count-as-model/#findComment-2486438 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 Actually theyre both mounted on 60mm bases- just one is square, one is round. I dont think itll cause a problem really. Oh, and Stegadons should probly be predators etc. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208367-using-different-bases-per-a-count-as-model/#findComment-2486518 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fivepointedstar Posted August 11, 2010 Author Share Posted August 11, 2010 Actually theyre both mounted on 60mm bases- just one is square, one is round. I dont think itll cause a problem really. Oh, and Stegadons should probly be predators etc. thanks will use. just got loads of ideas. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208367-using-different-bases-per-a-count-as-model/#findComment-2486536 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fivepointedstar Posted August 11, 2010 Author Share Posted August 11, 2010 what other dinosuars/ dragon from WH fantasy are there to use? and how would i convert to WH 40k? so far i've got cold ones- bikers carnosuars- dreads stegadons- preds wings- jp what else? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208367-using-different-bases-per-a-count-as-model/#findComment-2486547 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellios Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 what other dinosuars/ dragon from WH fantasy are there to use? and how would i convert to WH 40k? so far i've got cold ones- bikers carnosuars- dreads stegadons- preds wings- jp what else? High-elf dragon = Landspeeder? it already has a flamer :down: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208367-using-different-bases-per-a-count-as-model/#findComment-2486588 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 Terradons, the newest group is quite large. However, if were going to go down that road Ill send this to another forum- let me know if youd prefer Amicus or one of the PCA forums. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208367-using-different-bases-per-a-count-as-model/#findComment-2486593 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakobus Posted August 11, 2010 Share Posted August 11, 2010 The only counts as base I can see having to remain at is would be if you where going to use a counts-as Gabe Seth due to his special rule Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208367-using-different-bases-per-a-count-as-model/#findComment-2486690 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fivepointedstar Posted August 12, 2010 Author Share Posted August 12, 2010 thats all i was conserned the model was to big. but i guess from what i hear it would be common sence with round base as it normal with square ones. thanks Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208367-using-different-bases-per-a-count-as-model/#findComment-2487017 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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