Rune_Priest_Rhapsody Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 I am wondering about upgrades and or equipment that grant the Invulnerable Save ability. but primarily this: Wolf Lord with both the Belt of Russ AND Runic Armor. I am not concerned with points and/or "bang for the buck", I want to know about legality in this instance. My friend says that you cannot give a character an Inv. Save more than one time, I want to know if this is true. I am also curious if it is legal, does the Lord automatically get the +5 save from the Armor if he is attacked by a psychic ability, or can I choose the +4 that the Belt grants?? Thanks Brothers!! -R_P_R Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208465-invulnerable-save-question/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xeenos Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 Your friend is wrong.. Terminator Armor for example has its build in 5++, yet their often found with Storm Shields for a 3++ so its totally fine inside the rules. You always use the best save. That inv save applies only to psy powers.. so id asume a psy power that ignores armor such as an AP2 or what not psy ablity, if you have the Runic Armor you can use the 5++, but if you have a Storm Shield, too, then you would use the better save, the 3++. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208465-invulnerable-save-question/#findComment-2487595 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 Yeah... the extra bit on runic armor is almost useless, but there are random occaisions where it crops up as helpful. That being said, you can give a character as many sources of an invulnerable save as you like, but as Xeenos said you only use the best one available, provided your armor save isnt even better yet. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208465-invulnerable-save-question/#findComment-2487606 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ensis Ferrae Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 the main reason i put the Belt of Russ AND Runic Armor onto my HQs is because it is almost exactly the same as putting artificer armor and iron halo onto a vanilla marine HQ choice. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208465-invulnerable-save-question/#findComment-2487633 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 the main reason i put the Belt of Russ AND Runic Armor onto my HQs is because it is almost exactly the same as putting artificer armor and iron halo onto a vanilla marine HQ choice. Its exactly the same thing... just more expensive. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208465-invulnerable-save-question/#findComment-2487639 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max_Dammit Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 I can give my thunder mound 2 storm shields if i want ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208465-invulnerable-save-question/#findComment-2487700 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune_Priest_Rhapsody Posted August 13, 2010 Author Share Posted August 13, 2010 I can give my thunder mound 2 storm shields if i want <_< I CRUSHES YOU WITH MAH SHIELDS!! ;) Great news, and thank you!! -R_P_R Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208465-invulnerable-save-question/#findComment-2487723 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Levitas Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 the main reason i put the Belt of Russ AND Runic Armor onto my HQs is because it is almost exactly the same as putting artificer armor and iron halo onto a vanilla marine HQ choice. Ensis!!! You have joined the wolves! Good man. For Corax!..oh wait wrong war cry :) Anyway..Yeah you put runic armor for the 2+, and maybe give him a wolf tail to fend off any lash whip nonsense. Give him a storm shield too if he really doesnt want to get his hands dirty. I find the belt of russ and runic to be decent protection, and a fellow rune priest ( or 3) close by to shut out pyschics. Wolf claw and storm shield is another great combo, choose your flavor. But you always choose the best save you have, even if you have multiple kinds. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208465-invulnerable-save-question/#findComment-2487856 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tograth Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 does he get an extra attack for having the two storm shields?? :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208465-invulnerable-save-question/#findComment-2487933 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max_Dammit Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 no he loses a 2nd for not having a CC :teehee: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208465-invulnerable-save-question/#findComment-2487990 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmurph Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 No since storm shields do not count as an additional close combat weapon. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208465-invulnerable-save-question/#findComment-2487992 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune_Priest_Rhapsody Posted August 13, 2010 Author Share Posted August 13, 2010 I am thinking along the lines of: Belt, Runic Armor, Plasma Pistol, and either a power sword or a frost sword. -Which is the better option?? I was planning on using the Wolf Tail Talisman as well, it seems good and effective for the cost. I like the SS and WC combo, but I want this model to look AND play like it's full of awesomeness. So I opted for the 'He-Man' sword arm. I don't think that the chosen combination of gear is bad, I'm not loosing and initiative and will end up with 6 attacks on the charge right?? -R_P_R Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208465-invulnerable-save-question/#findComment-2488190 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 Frost sword is better, if more expensive..... Its a good load out you have there. I dont usually go for the SS on a lord. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208465-invulnerable-save-question/#findComment-2488197 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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