Pre-Heresy Madness

[Reyner]

D-yamn :) Nice work!

[Shepard]

Thanks for the quick reply. Ill check that out..i always have trouble getting a smooth edge and consistent roundness whilst maintaining the visually perfect circle..

[Sons of Horus]

Monster thread by Doghouse!!

[Doghouse]

Cheers guys! :)

 

I've started work on an admech magi test model to go with these guys as an option for me and Ed so will try and get some shots up later if possible.

 

Shepard: No problem mate if you need any tips let me know and I'll see what I can do to help. I'm no Jes Goodwin but have picked up a thing or two over the years. :huh:

[ironking]

You make me sick with envy.

 

I'm still trying to get the Doghouse Pattern True-Scale Gothic Marine thing going for my long awaited Space Wolves... then you come along and just completely change the game!

 

Awesome work as usual!

[Doghouse]

Thanks mate. ;)

 

Excellent stuff (part from the making you sick bit... :P ) if you get some pictures on line let me know speaking as a long fang myself I'd love to see what you're doing with them. :)

[Pulse]

Wow, the work on the legs so far is brilliant, the banded armour is coming on a real treat! :P

[Doghouse]

Thanks mate. :D

 

I was going to go with the original plain bands but the new FW approach makes a lot of sense in terms of movement.

 

Here's the first of the armatures that I'm reworking to give a sense of movement. I am going with the fixed helms so it's going to be a bit challenging to get realistic poses but a lot more fun.

 

http://i38.tinypic.com/2nsozd4.jpg

 

As you can see they are a little bigger than my regular marine conversions but they should look all the better for it.

 

http://i36.tinypic.com/2wqygzb.jpg

[Natanael]

Looking really good so far! I wish I had the skill and money to do this kind of thing :D

 

- Natanael

[Doghouse]

Thanks mate! :)

 

Funnily enough it's a complete lack of finances that's driving this army as I can't afford any new models so have to make my own now. Most of the armatures for example are made from old minis that I've melted down. :)

[verpine]

Hey Doghouse,

 

Your work is coming along great but if you don't mind, could you post a picture of the model of armor you are modelling? At first, i didn't even think it was a space marine, but then remembered it was pre-heresy. Anyways, i dont really know what sort of armor it is you're making, so if there is a sketch or something of that mark of armor that you can post it would be really helpful.

thanks!

[Sickboy]

Those are gonna be soooo sweet!

[ephrael]

Hey Doghouse,

 

Your work is coming along great but if you don't mind, could you post a picture of the model of armor you are modelling? At first, i didn't even think it was a space marine, but then remembered it was pre-heresy. Anyways, i dont really know what sort of armor it is you're making, so if there is a sketch or something of that mark of armor that you can post it would be really helpful.

thanks!

 

Doghouse is making Mark 2 or Crusade Armor as it's called. Here's a link to all the different MK's of armor to date.

 

http://29thgreatcompany.home.comcast.net/~...arine_armor.htm

 

You can also check out Forge World's "New Stuff" to see their version of it. Voila:

 

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/New_Stuff/MK-I...ADE-ARMOUR.html

[Terminatorinhell]

Man that banding is looking ACE! How are you getting it so smooth, vaseline and clay shapers?

[ephrael]

Doghouse, your work is amazing as always. I love that you made your own armature to sculpt the armor over. It seems like the only obvious way to get the correct proportions on your marines. I was wondering if you sculpted one "band" around one leg and then let it dry before sculpting the next one so that you don't accidentally squash the finished band?

[twistinthunder]

Hey Doghouse,

 

Your work is coming along great but if you don't mind, could you post a picture of the model of armor you are modelling? At first, i didn't even think it was a space marine, but then remembered it was pre-heresy. Anyways, i dont really know what sort of armor it is you're making, so if there is a sketch or something of that mark of armor that you can post it would be really helpful.

thanks!

 

Doghouse is making Mark 2 or Iron Armor as it's called. Here's a link to all the different MK's of armor to date.

 

http://29thgreatcompany.home.comcast.net/~...arine_armor.htm

 

You can also check out Forge World's "New Stuff" to see their version of it. Voila:

 

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/New_Stuff/MK-I...ADE-ARMOUR.html

 

 

failing to read that mk.II armor is 'CRUSADE' armor. your doing it right. :P

[ephrael]

Hey Doghouse,

 

Your work is coming along great but if you don't mind, could you post a picture of the model of armor you are modelling? At first, i didn't even think it was a space marine, but then remembered it was pre-heresy. Anyways, i dont really know what sort of armor it is you're making, so if there is a sketch or something of that mark of armor that you can post it would be really helpful.

thanks!

 

Doghouse is making Mark 2 or Iron Armor as it's called. Here's a link to all the different MK's of armor to date.

 

http://29thgreatcompany.home.comcast.net/~...arine_armor.htm

 

You can also check out Forge World's "New Stuff" to see their version of it. Voila:

 

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/New_Stuff/MK-I...ADE-ARMOUR.html

 

 

failing to read that mk.II armor is 'CRUSADE' armor. your doing it right. ;)

 

 

Fixed it, Forgot to check my own link.

[Doghouse]

Cheers guys. ^_^

 

Verpine: Here you go mate. ;)

 

http://i38.tinypic.com/23lm5ow.jpg

 

http://i37.tinypic.com/20kyxvn.jpg

 

http://i36.tinypic.com/10s90ro.jpg

 

The first model with the sword was released back in 1990 for rogue trader and although the description said the helmet was fixed as you can see it's not. It was only with the release of the third model that was designed to be used with the second edition plastic armed marines that the helm was at last properly fixed in place.

The idea behind it is the the images are directly fed to the marine's brain so that to the wearer it would appear that he wasn't wearing a helm at all. In practice this would be all well and good until you needed to look up.

Mine are based on the original model but will have the fixed helm and the new FW style armoured bands on the legs because they look really nice.

 

Mikhail: Yeah making my own armature to sculpt over is probably the most practical way for me to do these as it save me having to cut up expensive terminator models and I have a much greater range of movement. These guys are the pinnacle of my truescale obsession that has haunted me for nearly a decade now. :D

I tend to work too quickly and don't let the gs dry before moving on. I'm covering the leg as a whole with GS then adding a thin band of GS around the leg to make the lip of the armour and blending it in.

 

Terminatorinhell: I use vaselene and the GW sculpting tool, I just work it in small circles. You can use water but I prefer the vaseline because it's easier to work with.

 

twistinthunder: Hit the nail on the head mate, it is indeed Crusade armour. :)

[Lord Noble]

Awesome work, Doghouse. Keep it up!

 

-J

[Doghouse]

Thanks mate. :P

 

Bit of a side project on the go now after a conversation with a few of the guys over on the Great Crusade.

 

I'm currently experimenting with a Mk I marine whilst cutting and building armatures and have decided to build the infamous second regiment before they became the second legion and were lost to time.

It's still kind of rough and ready at the moment but it's getting there, bit of a rush job though so I need to go back and clean up the model here and there but he's getting there, need to bulk out the greaves on the legs and add the chain mail as well.

 

I'll go into greater detail about these later but for now here is the WIP.

 

http://i37.tinypic.com/2rmxu8h.jpg

 

http://i36.tinypic.com/wlewc4.jpg

[Pulse]

He is looking great, the proportions so far look very good.

 

The only negative i can see is the pouches around the waist. Why not sculpt the armour and such first and then worry about the details after? :ermm:

[Dragunov]

My only concern is that why the hell can't I work this quickly...hehehe

[Tsuro]

My only concern is that why the hell can't I work this quickly...hehehe

 

seconded.

 

These are fantastic, and I'm seriously impressed with your armatures. Especially the heads. (although casting them without armour feels like you're making more work for yourself, but I guess if it was the other way you couldn't work up those crazy pre-heresy styles.)

[Doghouse]

Cheers guys! :P

 

Pulse: The pouches cover the belt so rather than sculpt all of the belt I can just add the pouches as I go. The rest of the bulk of the armour will be in place before I start adding the main detailing though. ;)

 

Dragunov: Yeah maybe a little too quickly, I gotta slow down with these things. :P

 

Tsuro: Thanks mate. The heads are made by a company called hasslefree so I can't claim to have sculpted those. I can sculpt faces but it just so much easier to use theirs for the time being and they can be used commercially as well which is a bonus for budding sculptors.

 

To be honest though I really am enjoying sculpting each one in turn and I still have so much more to learn about sculpting that these are great practice. I think the easiest way to do something like this for an army would be to make multi-part minis then cast them so I can mix and match. Ideally what I'm hoping to learn from these guys is posing miniatures and seeing what I can do.

[KhornateKiller]

Looking great DogHouse !!

He absolutely has to have the shades though lol ;)