Help Me Name my Chapter

[blooddragon]

So I just bought the entire new array of Forge world Minis (the retro marines a squad of each of the 5 types) and equipment, Pre-Heresy Jump packs from Chapter House Studios, and helmet crests from Secret Weapon minis. Needless to say I am making a 3rd founding DIY chapter for them, and although I have be loyal BA fan for years I have also been an avid IF fan as well, so these guys will be a IF successor. I have several names to consider, and need your assistance. They will be closely affiliated to a forge world and the =I= hence their large amount of rare equipment. Here are several ideas for schemes of what they will look like.

Names:

1. Lords of War

2. The Emperors Pride

3. The Monarchs

4. The Monarchs Pride

5. The Demon Slayers

6. The Lords of Virtue

7. The Praetorian's

8. The Centurions

[Shadey]

I like Lords of War but Praetorians is also good, maybe with a descriptor.

 

Might also consider The Forge of War or something similar to reference your AM link.

[blooddragon]

Lords of War is where I am leaning but still not sure. Anyone else got thoughts?

[Octavulg]

Honestly, none of those names really grab me.

 

What's the Chapter like as people? What's their character? Their defining personality traits?

[blooddragon]

Ok general synopsis.

 

3rd Founding, with a deeply rooted belief that they will be part of the last stand for mankind when the end comes, shared vision among the librarians.

 

Based on/allied with Forge-world of Lyonesse located near the Ghoul Stars. Forge-world still has many pre and heresy era STC's and armor constructs. Chapter reviles relics and artifacts (more like Consecrators not Relictors). Strong ties to the Ad-mech often acts on their behalf for missions...i.e securing their shipping lanes, deliveries etc. Founded Very early in 3rd founding, almost a half point between 2nd and official 3rd date. Still hold very strong feelings towards the Old legion size/philosophy of the marines.

 

May have between 13-16 companies, if so covered up by assistance of the Ad-mech of Lyonesse. Imperial zealots, firm believers in further expansion/re-conquest of the Imperium. Also loosely allied with the =I=. Very willing to answer a call for support by them. Their military philosophy is very aggressive, they will advance when many other chapters would hold. Non codex adherent, divided up into 3 self sufficient Cohorts with own Praetors, all answer to Consul (chapter master.)

[Octavulg]

War Prophets. Sons of Saoshyant. Iron Consuls.

 

Furthermore, some comments:

 

3rd Founding, with a deeply rooted belief that they will be part of the last stand for mankind when the end comes, shared vision among the librarians.

 

This is an interesting idea - though I think it can use further development. How and when will the end come? What will they do? What do they do in the meantime?

 

Based on/allied with Forge-world of Lyonesse located near the Ghoul Stars. Forge-world still has many pre and heresy era STC's and armor constructs.

 

No one has complete STCs. Furthermore, you're trying to make them special through what they have, rather than through them being interesting people.

 

Chapter reviles relics and artifacts (more like Consecrators not Relictors).

 

Reviles = despises. You mean 'reveres'.

 

Strong ties to the Ad-mech often acts on their behalf for missions...i.e securing their shipping lanes, deliveries etc.

 

And how did these ties develop?

 

Founded Very early in 3rd founding, almost a half point between 2nd and official 3rd date.

 

Why? What could this possibly add?

 

Still hold very strong feelings towards the Old legion size/philosophy of the marines.

 

Why? They wouldn't have any experience with it themselves.

 

May have between 13-16 companies, if so covered up by assistance of the Ad-mech of Lyonesse.

 

Why would they do this, and why would the Ad-Mech cover it up?

 

Imperial zealots, firm believers in further expansion/re-conquest of the Imperium.

 

Then why are they so close with the Adeptus Mechanicus, who are virtually independent of the Imperium?

 

Also loosely allied with the =I=. Very willing to answer a call for support by them. Their military philosophy is very aggressive, they will advance when many other chapters would hold. Non codex adherent, divided up into 3 self sufficient Cohorts with own Praetors, all answer to Consul (chapter master.)

 

Romanesque organization is neither creative nor interesting. And why would they have a non-Codex organization?

[blooddragon]

@Octavlung, those were just a list of ideas and concepts that need ALOT of flushing out obviously. I WILL not be using them all because it would be WAY to much. The connections in respect to having a larger amount of antique equipment is to be similar in nature to the Consecrators, they do have newer equipment to they just have a special propensity to the artifacts. This will also need more flushing out. My writing style is contrary to many others, I name first and develop from there it is just what works for me. So on that note, I am leaning towards a slightly different name set a friend suggested since I want a very Hellenistic flare.

 

1. The Emperors Magistrates

2. Magistrates of War

3-On: _______ Magistrates, or Magistrates of __________.

 

Any thoughts?

[Grey Hunter Ydalir]

A chapters name should reflect the character of the Astartes of who it consists.

 

Case in point would be the Marines Malevolent for an obvious example. The original legions are only slightly more subtly named, but even so their defining characteristics are each summed up in their names.

 

 

Why Magistrates? Do they roam around pronouncing their own brand of judgment upon the Emperors enemies?

[blooddragon]

Why Magistrates? Do they roam around pronouncing their own brand of judgment upon the Emperors enemies?

 

Precisely, not only will they preside over there enemies, but will also weigh and judge those of the world they have come to save. If they deem the defenders of the world cowardly as an example than they will give them the Emperors Justice by granting them the Emperors peace. I want them to be fanatics like the BT's but not crusade fanatics. There obsession is with the Emperors will made manifest in his laws as well as honor and defense of Humanity. So when men won't fight for themselves they are deemed unworthy of the Emperors Light. These "trails" are held by The Lord High Magistrate (Chapter Master) or one or more of his representatives (Company Captains) The High Chancellors. Regular marines within the chapter are often referred to as a Peacebringer. There symbol is going to be simple scales of justice that look like the zodiac symbol for Libra's with a skull on each side of the scale.

 

So just some names I have been going with so far...

 

The Emperors Magistrates

The Imperial Magistrates

The Magistrates of Death

The Magistrates of War

[Muras]

I am fond of the name Praetors of Iron based on your ties to the mechanicus and what I think your scheme looks like.

[Octavulg]

Those names...really don't do it for me.

 

They're overlong, lack excitement, and just don't seem like names for a Chapter. A magistrate feels more closely tied to law than justice, and more like a bureaucratic term than a name for a Chapter of Space Marines.

 

If you really want to keep the whole 'justice' thing, I'd recommend either the [something] Arbiters, the Judicators (or Adjudicators) of [Home World], or even the [something] Marshals.

[blooddragon]

The reason I was going with Magistrates is because they were the Hellenistic judges and I want a greeko/roman feel even in their name. I stayed away from Arbiters because of the Adeptus Arbites, Judicators/Adjudicators just does not stand out for me. Something with Marshall's, Wardens sound like it could work. This idea will tie them in closer with the =I= which I want in there story line. Note: color scheme is still negotiable, could still go with a black/dark scheme since white is annoying to paint well.

 

So would you say something along the lines of

 

The Arbiters of Troy

The Marshalls of Lycenia

The Celestial Wardens

The Dark Arbiters

The Dark Magistrates

The Dark Marshall's

 

Any Ideas? I am trying to stay away from portions of names that are well used like Consuls for example. Plus certain names make me think of Utra affiliation and I am making these guys and IF successor.

[CaptainForge]

Spartan Fists

Emperor's Phalanx

Imperial Spartans

 

My first impression of your paint scheme and the background you gave was that of Spartans.

[blooddragon]

Again I am trying to keep with a "justice bringer" theme. There tie to the =I= is they will act as another Marine force that they use occasionally to send after renegade Imperial Forces. While there are Hellenistic influences I don't want it to be as blatant as using Spartan or Trojan in their name. They are good names just not along the lines of what I want to get to. I have already started to get their decals together which are the Scales of justice with a skull on both scales.

[Kristoff]

Lords of War is good

Arbiters of Light is a possibility.

 

Personally, I like the lower left scheme for these. Maybe use a Judge's gavel instead of the eagle to indicate their zealousness with the Emperor's Law.

[Grey Hunter Ydalir]

On the colour schemes, I like the Yellow and black one.

[blooddragon]

The Arbiters of Death

The Dark Arbiters

The Sacred Arbiters

The Lawgivers

The Peacemakers

The Imperial Judges

[soddinnutter]

Shadow of Justice

Lawbringers

Scions of Order

 

Would not have them with the 13 - 16 companies. Few chapters can get above the 1000 brothers rule.

1. Gray Knights = Because the -I- say so

2. Exocists = Because the -I- say so

3. Black Tempelars = Because they are spread so thin and the -I- hasn't really caught up with them yet

4. Space Wolves = Because they are historicaly important and their removal would cause more problems than it would solve.

 

Could collect relics both holy and abomidable by 'confiscating' them.

 

'further expansion/re-conquest of the Imperium' does not really fit in with the 'Magistrates' thing unless they are re-conquering worlds lost to the Imperium. Bringing the light of His judgement to the dark places.

 

No one has a fully functional STC or they would pwn the galaxy

 

Would have them have close ties to the Puritans of the -I- rather than the -I- as a whole.

 

Would have them have a polite but chilly relationship with the Add-mech because they do not come under Imperial Law.

 

Would have them have extremely good relations with the Adeptus Arbiters because they bring law to lawlessness.

 

If you want a huge chapter you could have an exagerated Scout Company (or more than 1). They are not Marines untill the last implant is stiched in so delay the introduction of the Black Carapace and have 600 scouts. maybe they have to do a century working for the Arbiters hunting bandit kings in the mountains/jungles of some death world or trying to inposed His Order in the underhives of Necromunda or Armogeddon or Preatoria or somewhere.

 

Why the shared vission? just seems like a Blood Angels copy.

 

Perhaps the Brother Psykers are used to obtain confesions.

[pattison]

I would simply name them simply 'Magistrates' (one word chapter names are just cool) and go by the white-red scheme (or the black-yellow one).

[Arikel]

I would simply name them simply 'Magistrates' (one word chapter names are just cool) and go by the white-red scheme (or the black-yellow one).

 

 

You might also wish to consider the term Justiciars, a little more martial sounding then magistrates. and not something I've seen suggested.

[Ace Debonair]

I would simply name them simply 'Magistrates' (one word chapter names are just cool) and go by the white-red scheme (or the black-yellow one).

 

 

You might also wish to consider the term Justiciars, a little more martial sounding then magistrates. and not something I've seen suggested.

 

I believe that's a term used for some of the Grey Knights - probably best not to step on their toes. ^_^

 

The [something] Judges could work as a name, though. It doesn't sound as... well, as soft as magistrates. Magistrates may inspire respect, but judges can inspire fear. ;)

Black Judges, Dark Judges, Sacred Judges, that sort of caper.

[Shinzaren]

The Judge Dredds perhaps?

[Ace Debonair]

The Judge Dredds perhaps?

 

Heck no. :(

 

You just couldn't stop yourself, could you...? :P

[Captain Juan Juarez]

I would simply name them simply 'Magistrates' (one word chapter names are just cool) and go by the white-red scheme (or the black-yellow one).

 

 

You might also wish to consider the term Justiciars, a little more martial sounding then magistrates. and not something I've seen suggested.

 

I believe that's a term used for some of the Grey Knights - probably best not to step on their toes. ;)

 

Justicar is a Grey Knight rank eq. to Sergeant, I believe, in that it involves squad command.

 

On another note: How widespread would knowledge of the Grey Knights be, enough to prevent use of the term? I doubt it.

[Arikel]

The Judge Dredds perhaps?

 

 

You have to be a bit more subtle than that, more like The Dread Judges, or perhaps the The Judges Dread ;)

 

Going back to a more romanic thing, what about Tribunes then? (Ala the Emepror's Tribunes, Tribunes of Justice etc)