Silent Shadow Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 The other day a thought came to me, when a Librarian succumbs to the Black Rage the obvious and most sensible course of action would be to slay them outright instead of inducting them into the DC. My reasoning is that 'normal' DC at the best of times are only just controlable and at the worst they have to be placed in stasis, so when a Librarian succumbs, surely there's the increased danger of him using his powers to their limits and beyond, becoming an even bigger danger to all around than usual and with his already unstable mindset surely he would be a prime target for Daemonic possession or resulting in the creation of a warp rift? For example in the most recent BA codex, page 46, 'Librarians': "Nor is there complete trust even within the ranks of the Librarians themselves, for they must keep watch over their fellows, so that should one fall to the whispered madness of Chaos or the Black Rage he can be slain, swiftly and mercifully, before he wreaks untold harm upon the Chapter that he most loyally served." (Emphasis mine) But on page 47, 'Mephsiton': "Mephiston was once Brother Calistarius, a Librarian of exceptional valour and strength of character. Yet the Black Rage cares not for the nobility of the soul, nor the deeds of the flesh... Inducted into the Death Company..." So this raises the questions; Are Librarians inducted into the Death Company or slain as soon as they display the Black Rage? Was Mephiston an exception due to his 'exceptional valour and strength of character' or was there some other reason he was inducted into the Death Company and not slain? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208665-mephiston-librarians-and-the-dc/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Rawl Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 ...that is a fair point when you think about it, but maybe there are exceptions. Or if you want a bit of conspiricey maybe he was an experiment to see what would happen Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208665-mephiston-librarians-and-the-dc/#findComment-2489884 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aramis_the_Red Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 ...that is a fair point when you think about it, but maybe there are exceptions. Or if you want a bit of conspiricey maybe he was an experiment to see what would happen Yeah, well if Mephie is the result of that experiment, I think I'd try to repeat it as often as humanly... err genetically engineered superhumanly possible. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208665-mephiston-librarians-and-the-dc/#findComment-2489907 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlauG Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 Given that IIRC it happened on Armageddon, perhaps they decided that he couldn't make the situation worse and just pointed him Ork-ward... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208665-mephiston-librarians-and-the-dc/#findComment-2489909 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakobus Posted August 16, 2010 Share Posted August 16, 2010 I have read fluff else where about drugs that supress psychic abilities (don't ask me where it could quite easily be from Dark Heresy). But that is more likely making excuses, I don't know maybe the situation where Calistarius was overcome was a special case. But then the Mephy back story hasn't changed much beyond adding some extra details since the Angels of Death Codex came out, the fluff was looser then Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208665-mephiston-librarians-and-the-dc/#findComment-2489910 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorre Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 I thought mephy was isolated and trapped beneath a collapsed building when he succumbed. By the time he was located he had conquered the curse. This would explain why he was not killed. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208665-mephiston-librarians-and-the-dc/#findComment-2490077 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drachnon Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 I was always under the impression that Mephiston wasn't a librarian when he entered the death company and gained his psychic powers while trapped under the building. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208665-mephiston-librarians-and-the-dc/#findComment-2490285 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinzel Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 He was a libby before but as Jorre said I believe when they found him he had already pushed throught the rage and was lucid again. If he had succumbed in any other circumstance he would've been killed when he turned. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208665-mephiston-librarians-and-the-dc/#findComment-2490332 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rybnick Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 He was a libby before but as Jorre said I believe when they found him he had already pushed throught the rage and was lucid again. If he had succumbed in any other circumstance he would've been killed when he turned. I agree with Jorre and Kinzel, in the codex he is trapped beneath the building for 7 days and by the time he free's himself he has overcome the Black Rage and goes about murderize some orcs that were unlucky enough to be strolling by. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208665-mephiston-librarians-and-the-dc/#findComment-2490396 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zealadin Posted August 17, 2010 Share Posted August 17, 2010 As others have said I'm pretty sure he succumbed to the rage during the battle, was trapped under the building, then emerged having defeated it. Don't recall any mention of him being within the DC to start with. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208665-mephiston-librarians-and-the-dc/#findComment-2490406 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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