Death Company Rhinos

[Thornoo1]

Hi Guys,

 

I'm just putting together my Death Company Rhino. I picked up the doors from Forge World Linky

 

So I was wondering about the paint job that I'm going to give it. I'm coming at this from four perspectives, fluff, game play, army coherency (the paint job type) and economic.

 

Fluff - Black easy.

 

Game play - what have people been finding when they field a black rhino full of Death Company? Have you been finding that because it's black there is a kind of psychological imperative by your opponent to shoot it. It's a different colour so it must be bad or it simply stands out from amongst the rest? Has anyone tried a red rhino for their Death Company for different results?

 

Army coherency - It's always nice to have your army look similar across the board, Marines are not Eldar after all. This has me leaning towards a red paint job with black trimmings. The black one simply wouldn't fit in and if it was red I could use it for a normal BA squad for those times where the Death Company stays at home.

 

Economic - I kind of covered it in the above, by having a red rhino I have one less generic rhino for my army. At whatever cost they are in your country ($55 here in Australia) they still cost a few hours pay and really do represent an investment that most people think twice at. With a red Death Company rhino I can magnetise the doors and hatch for a transformation into another tank type.

 

So Red or Black?

[Zeller]

It's a black rhino in an army of red marines. Of course unless you've switched rides it has the DC. DC are not something you want hitting your lines. You shoot the rhino that is most likely going to have the DC in it - the black one with the red X's. That, or your opponent asks which tank they're in.

 

I vote black because that's what it is in the fluff.

 

However, if you're looking for coherency why don't you paint it red and have a pair of interchangeable top hatches. One red. One red with black X's or something like that?

[Marshal Wilhelm]

I think Black will look better.

 

Unless your foe is a bit of a, umm, poor player, shall we say, he will want to know where your DC are. Having it decked out does make it easier for him to keep track of. Now that is not really a great thing for you, but think of it as playing in a gentlemanly manner.

You wouldn't want to win because your friend lost track of the ball in the cup now would you? :)

 

I know in real warfare, deception is an excellent idea. In a game, winning by talent is much more enjoyable for both sides :lol:

 

I too am an Aussie. I would remind you that there are places that offer superior rates to our GW stores. What we get charged is much much higher than the Americans pay, and that is taking into account our, say, US 90¢ for every AU $1.

 

We get ripped off.

 

eBay is an opportunity to spend less.

oasisgamesri

hoard o bits

 

wayland games is a UK store that also sells things for cheap.

 

Of course, your mileage will vary, what with exchange rates, etc. And you have to wait a week or two. Wait the weeks and save the dollars, I say.

I often buy things for 60% of what we get charged.

It is like fishing, patience is crucial.

[Wildfire]

I'm a big proponent of magnets. They save you both money and space in your bags. I'd magnatize the doors, personally.

[Anarchyman99]

I say Black....but why stop at that...they need a Black LRC.....that spells oh :P When people see it.

[Zealadin]

Advantage of red is you can hide it amongst other tanks and it increases the thought your opponent has to put into target priority.

[Hergrmir]

I'd do red, just from an economics PoV. I mean, it's not like if you have a bunch of red rhinos, and your opponent asks what the DC is in, then you're going to lie about it.

[bushman101]

all of my vehicles are red.

Oh course I play my own sucessor chapter, so technically it doesn't matter for me.

[Jakobus]

I figure paint the Rhino Black, it usually speeds up the game because I don't have my opponent asking each turn which one the DC is in.

 

Ask for LandRaiders / Storm Ravens and Droppods, I would probably go with no painting them black, but that more my budget. I could invent some fluff to explain that Rhino X has been permanently assigned to Death Company taxi duty and Retains the ceremonial Black Paint, could be that the techmarines found a Rhino that has a Machine Spirit that is amenable to a DC mentality.

 

The Other three are too valuable to the chapter to risk offending the more powerful machine spirits and the Droppods are a part of the cruiser and retain the colours of that vessel.

 

In short do what you feel works, I usually place a model from the unit on top of the vehicle anyway as a marker of who is where so red of black shouldn’t impact how the opponent plays anyway.

[shan vener]

I say Black....but why stop at that...they need a Black LRC.....that spells oh :P When people see it.

 

i use a LRR for mine ^_^

 

but to answer the question go with black, cause black looks cool and suddenly every gun on the table is focused on the DC and not the rest of you army. and besides DC can survive almost everything.

[Chaplain Gunzhard]

Well I haven't used mine in a while but my black (X) rhino had a huge intimidation factor back in the 3rd edition...

[Whitefireinferno]

I run a Black Rhino/Razor along with my other Rhino/Razor but the Death Co tend to ride in the none black one If people want to assume that they are in the Black One who am I to judge their decision -_- If they do not ask and make assumptions whose fault is that?

[Thornoo1]

Cheers guys, I've given your feedback some consideration and I reckon I'll go black with magnatised doors so I can turn it into a baal/pred/razor. I've already done this with another Rhino chasis. In the end if I run a black baal or variation I can always ram something on the last turn to represent the rage :)

[Hfran Morkai]

Red wun's go fasta!

 

Oh wait...wrong forum :) Though I'm surprised no-one brought it up, then again BA ones are quite fast anyway. hehe

 

And don't forget to post pictures

[Morticon]

Game play - what have people been finding when they field a black rhino full of Death Company? Have you been finding that because it's black there is a kind of psychological imperative by your opponent to shoot it. It's a different colour so it must be bad or it simply stands out from amongst the rest? Has anyone tried a red rhino for their Death Company for different results?

 

 

This is generally true!

Thing is, we should consider this in our army design.

If the opponent wants to target that above and beyond other threats like Baals or Vindies - then he should pay.

Its why I usually run two heavy tanks and at least 2 rhino chassis.

 

My old list used to have 2 TAC rhinos and 1 DC rhino as well as 1 or 2 baals- or 1 baal and 1 vindy.

The black DC rhino OFTEN got the brunt of the beatings, but it then freed up the other tanks to unleash death and allowed me to use the DC for a role they excell in- counter charging!

[Thornoo1]

I'm looking at an 8 rhino chasis 1750 army but that will have to wait tournement play until after Orktoberfest here in Brisbane. I promised myself I'd take the jump packs all the way to see how viable they are in a really big tournament.

 

8 Chasis will be 2 rhino, 2 razor, 2 baal, 1 vindi, 1 whirlwind

 

In fact I shouldn't be painting Death Company Rhinos at all, I have 10 RAS to paint!

[Anarchyman99]

I'm looking at an 8 rhino chasis 1750 army but that will have to wait tournement play until after Orktoberfest here in Brisbane. I promised myself I'd take the jump packs all the way to see how viable they are in a really big tournament.

 

8 Chasis will be 2 rhino, 2 razor, 2 baal, 1 vindi, 1 whirlwind

 

In fact I shouldn't be painting Death Company Rhinos at all, I have 10 RAS to paint!

 

Good Luck, I hope your mech brings the goods......I've got 30 RAS to paint....so yeah I feel your pain.

[Kunanaki]

The red ones go faster.

 

But in all seriousness, it's a matter of taste and painting skills. I prefer Red with golden trim, but black with red trim is just as neat looking.

[Korloth Darkwolf]

I'm in favour of black with red for DC vehicles but then my army doesn't have any red blood angels in it as it's a pure DC only army.

 

It's quite enjoyable to see your opponent's face when you only DC down on the table for a game.

[Brother Nathan]

Are black death company rhinos fluffy though i would ask. As rhinos are amoury do they have drivers permanetly in the death company for driving round the death co. I can see them getting the more heavl armoured rhinos more to stop them ripping their way wout than to stop others getting in too. but painting rhinos black seems a bit strange as once the death co are dropped off at their final destination the rhino driver aint likely gonna wait around too long, hes gonna want to ge backt o what other squads are in need and get them where thay need to be. When your in a metal box you kinda want to keep it moving unless your 100% sure that there is no anti tank around

[ohara]

Hey All

 

I use a black rhino and it gets shot a lot! Admittedly it is covered in the spikes from the chaos sprue and has 'if you can read this you're dead' written on the front of it. So it is probably my fault, that and I tend to drive it in a straight line right at the enemy which dos nt help either!

 

If I wanted a rhino to survive I would paint it camo. But I am not gaurd. By shooting my dc rhino they let my ras with priest get up close with them.

 

 

BIG MISTAKE

[BrotherMoses]

Make it black and paint it up well. It should be a good looking piece in your army! Enjoy it.

 

Painting it red for the 'shell game' effect is.... less than honourable.

[Lynnean]

i play a sucessor; and all my tanks are red/black or black/red; mixed up :P

so it doesn't really matter for me :P

[Redo]

My DC roll in a red rhino. Fluffwise I see that the rhino crew has not fallen to the black rage and do not belong the DC. I also use a Raider occasionally and it is for sure painted red. I often use it for other units. Economy is important and when I play larger games I can always use the 'DC' Rhino for other units.

[30-Death-Company+Astorath]

I would get two rhinos one painted DC colours and a normal red then put the tac squad in the DC rhino and the DC squad itn the normal rhino so they will shoot the crap

out of the DC rhino when your norm rhino with the DC inside can just slip past!!! SIMPLES!!!