Tycho6 Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 With the new Forge World models of old SM armour I am planning to do a sort of before and after set of minitures - one model in the colours of each legion pre-heresy and the one post-heresy as a comparison. So, my question is: what makes/combinations of makes should I use for each legion? I'm assuming that the Sons of Horus would have the state of the art stuff. Where are the other legions in the pecking order (or preference for certain makes)? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208884-forge-world-pre-heresy/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doghouse Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 To be honest you could probably get away with all Mk II or Mk IV. I'd personally go mostly Mk II with a couple of the other two thrown, Iron Warriors in Mk III for example. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208884-forge-world-pre-heresy/#findComment-2492184 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tycho6 Posted August 19, 2010 Author Share Posted August 19, 2010 Cool, cheers. Would Alpha Legion, as the 'youngest', have new IV, or did they get the older models? Also, at that time, did the Legions have any distinguishing features about them - like the Space Wolves wearing pelts etc, or were they all more uniform and less individual/stylised? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208884-forge-world-pre-heresy/#findComment-2492206 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Father Ferrum Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 "Alpharius" on the cover of Legion is wearing Mark IV armor, and Grammaticus in the book stated that he was wearing one of the new, baleen-snouted power armors, so there's two references to Mk.IV for the Alphas (20th Legion). The Iron Hands IA artwork includes a "pre-heresy" Hand, but the armor appears to be a mishmash of Mk.VI legs, a flat-fronted, cable-less torso piece that I have to assume is Mk.III, and the helmet looks like a bionically-modified Mk.IV. So, uh, have fun figuring that one out. But they did already do a lot of augmetic work, as evidenced by the pre-Heresy Hand's bionic left hand and half-bionic head. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208884-forge-world-pre-heresy/#findComment-2492399 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirax Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 Space Wolves always wore pelts, except for the very few from Terra, and even they were quick to embrace Russ' way. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208884-forge-world-pre-heresy/#findComment-2492401 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonkin Arenis Posted August 19, 2010 Share Posted August 19, 2010 I seem to remember something in either 'Horus Rising' or 'False Gods' about the Blood Angels mainly having Mk.III armour, whilst on Murder... With that in mind, you could model the main portion of Blood Angels with Mk.III stuff, with the occasional Mk.II and Mk.IV pieces in there. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208884-forge-world-pre-heresy/#findComment-2492444 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durfast Spiritwolf Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 Space Wolves always wore pelts, except for the very few from Terra, and even they were quick to embrace Russ' way. They may have also worn pelts as they were one Legion that did not change name after meeting their Primarch and may have been originally recruited from Skania Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208884-forge-world-pre-heresy/#findComment-2512597 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Kjaran Coldheart Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 Space Wolves always wore pelts, except for the very few from Terra, and even they were quick to embrace Russ' way. They may have also worn pelts as they were one Legion that did not change name after meeting their Primarch and may have been originally recruited from Skania well duh...once your a legion of BAMFs how much more awesome can you get?? WLK Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208884-forge-world-pre-heresy/#findComment-2512793 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durfast Spiritwolf Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 Space Wolves always wore pelts, except for the very few from Terra, and even they were quick to embrace Russ' way. They may have also worn pelts as they were one Legion that did not change name after meeting their Primarch and may have been originally recruited from Skania well duh...once your a legion of BAMFs how much more awesome can you get?? WLK send key setting, over! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208884-forge-world-pre-heresy/#findComment-2513496 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCC Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 I seem to remember something in either 'Horus Rising' or 'False Gods' about the Blood Angels mainly having Mk.III armour, whilst on Murder... With that in mind, you could model the main portion of Blood Angels with Mk.III stuff, with the occasional Mk.II and Mk.IV pieces in there. Actually Mk.III was a specialist, 'heavy' version of Mk.II that was essentially filled the role of Terminator armour before Tactical Dreadnought Armour came along. Mk.II was being replaced in general issue by Mk.IV amongst all the Legions, so much so that it's described as the 'mainstay' of armour during the Heresy. Obviously Mk.V 'Heresy' armour also plays an important role during the Heresy but if I were modelling a pre-Heresy force I'd go 70-30 Mk.IV to Mk.II or even 80-20 for my 'main force' and I'd save Mk.III for assault/close combat units where the extra frontal protection would be most valuable. If I was doing a Heresy-era force (as distinct from pre-Heresy) I'd mostly go with 50-50 Mk.IV/V, a lot of the Mk.II/IV in circulation would be damaged and Mk.V would be replacing it (easier to manufacture/repair during the nightmare of the Heresy). Towards the end of the Heresy, or for those forces engaged in the Siege of Terra in particular, you could begin to mix in Mk.VI. Most early suits of Mk.VI were manufactured on Terra & Mars and went to the Loyalists (BA, IF, WS all of whom are closely identified with the armour due to their roles on Terra) defending Terra and then, after the fall of Mars, to the Traitors assaulting the Sol system. Mk.VII also went into production during the Siege of Terra but what little of it would have been produced mostly stayed in Loyalist hands. Long story, short ('Too late!' the audience cries) Mk.II/IV for pre-Heresy, Mk.III for assault/CC troops if you model any and Mk IV/V/VI would all be equally viable immediately post-Heresy. I'd reserve Mk.VII for loyalist forces only at this time however. Index Astartes: Power Armour (B&C Librarium) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/208884-forge-world-pre-heresy/#findComment-2513521 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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