Son of Lorgar Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 I just had an idea for some fluff for a successor chaptor that would make for some fun conversions! This particular chaptor has taken inspiration from the Adeptus Mechanicus and has replaced a large amount of their organic bodies with machines. Their logic is that perhaps by reeplacing parts of their body, they can figure out the source of their flaw and eliminate it. How does that sound for fluff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Jim Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 The Iron Hands pretty much already do that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deschenus Maximus Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 Sounds like a pretty good fluff idea to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Juan Juarez Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 The Iron Hands pretty much already do that... I think it was more the point that if they are bionic, that the Flaws will not affect them as much and a potential claw can be sought. Whereas for the Iron Hands it is to destroy the "inherent weakness" of the flesh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 I don't know... As mentioned it sounds a lot like the Iron Hands. Should make for some nice conversions though. 0b :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Lorgar Posted August 21, 2010 Author Share Posted August 21, 2010 I wasn't aware of the Iron Hands. Any suggestions on how to make the fluff more unique? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 You could just say that due to the fierce nature of your chapter they have suffered an ungodly amount of wounds and require the use of bionics to augment this. The Iron Warriors also use lots of bionics so it's something not strictly tied to just the Iron Hands. 0b :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherMoses Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 Hmmm idk this is very close to the Iron Hands schtick. I don't see any reason why there can't be two similar chapters though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 Yes I agree and it could make for some awesome conversions too. 0b :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Juan Juarez Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 I wasn't aware of the Iron Hands. Any suggestions on how to make the fluff more unique? Mayhaps they fought with the Iron Hands and upon seeing the benefits of bionics to "correct" the weaknesses of the flesh decided that such could potentially be used to counteract their own inherent flaws? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FenixAstartia Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 I just had an idea for some fluff for a successor chaptor that would make for some fun conversions!This particular chaptor has taken inspiration from the Adeptus Mechanicus and has replaced a large amount of their organic bodies with machines. Their logic is that perhaps by reeplacing parts of their body, they can figure out the source of their flaw and eliminate it. How does that sound for fluff? I had something simmilar in mind for my own homebrew successor chapter. ^_^ They are basicly a chapter where alot of the marines fell to chaos, the Chapter Master died in the battle and the new one was convinced their brethren had fallen because of the "corrupting influence" of their flaws. He thus ordered several changes and experiments upon geneseed in order to eliminate the flaws. He was short lived however, and his successor quickly put a stop to the experiment. Ironicly they lost almost all genetic connections to their founder chapter, except the flaws, wich still remains. :ermm: Edit: fix'd some grammar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aramis_the_Red Posted August 21, 2010 Share Posted August 21, 2010 Brothers, we must proceed with caution. The one who asks these question of us is a vile traitor, a worshipper of the ruinous powers, a follower of the dark apostles, a wordbearer... He can not be trusted. J/k I wasn't aware of the Iron Hands. Any suggestions on how to make the fluff more unique? Mayhaps they fought with the Iron Hands and upon seeing the benefits of bionics to "correct" the weaknesses of the flesh decided that such could potentially be used to counteract their own inherent flaws? If you're looking for a good fluff reason, I would suggest the above^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haunter! Posted August 22, 2010 Share Posted August 22, 2010 I would suspect that the Flaw would have an effect on the machine spirit of the bionics in some way, especially if the bionics are permanent replacements for whatever part of the body. Remember, a Marine's armor is as much a part of them as their two hearts and reacts to the Thirst; a permanent robot hand would be just as significant. Perhaps you could have the collective spirits (the armor's and those of the bionics) amplifying the rage instead of subverting it? This could lead to the chapter to more zealously replacing more of themselves with bionics, leading to more brothers to fall to the Rage. I'm liking the idea you're trying to approach, it has a lot of potential. Keep fleshing it out a bit more and I think you'll have something awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy1391 Posted August 22, 2010 Share Posted August 22, 2010 I see this as being perfectly plausible for a later formed successor chapter to do... It Shows the more drasticmeans that some sons of sanguinius would do to beat the flaw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 I see this as being perfectly plausible for a later formed successor chapter to do... It Shows the more drasticmeans that some sons of sanguinius would do to beat the flaw. This is what I was thinking as well. A chapter may heavily use bionics to try to overcome the Red Thirst and Black Rage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentL Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 I think something simple like the "Flaw" in this chapter has mutated to the point where it deteriates limbs destroying muscle tissue, which the Tech Priests in the Chapter along with Chapter Master decided that the only way to keep them fighting the Emperors fight was to start to use bionics. This would also explain the large amount of Dreadnoughts that can be fielded. Simple and easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurb Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 Bionic death company ? Where as most chapters "finish off" DC who are mortally woulded, your priests sedate them and add bionics so their DC brothers can die an honorable death istead of by the hands of their Sangpriests? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakobus Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 I see this as being perfectly plausible for a later formed successor chapter to do... It Shows the more drasticmeans that some sons of sanguinius would do to beat the flaw. This is what I was thinking as well. A chapter may heavily use bionics to try to overcome the Red Thirst and Black Rage. +1, I can easily follow this path of reasoning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Lorgar Posted August 28, 2010 Author Share Posted August 28, 2010 Heh, I don't know much about my army yet. But I do know this is what they are going to look like. Too boring? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zealadin Posted August 28, 2010 Share Posted August 28, 2010 If you can convert it and make up your own fluff, then absolutely!! The key to conversions and your own chapter is to make sure you do a good job, no one will complain when your army looks awesome, and if someone does, generally other people will be quick to silence them. White is hard to paint, but if you make it work it will be good, its not an over the top colour scheme but I am sure as you get started you will figure out your own quirks to particular squads, or details that make them unique. Glowing detailed eyes, different colour hands or half and half schemes always add extra interest to an army. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FenixAstartia Posted September 23, 2010 Share Posted September 23, 2010 Looks nice, what did you plan to call them, or haven't you tought about that yet? Looks kinda like a Iron Hands chapter i had plans for in my early days ironically, but then i fell for the dark powers and the idea was scraped... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Posted September 23, 2010 Share Posted September 23, 2010 Alot of the BA fluff mentions astethic beauty, COme on these guys like things that look beautiful. Look at what happened to tycho when he got blasted in the face by the waag magic of that shamen, Tycho went Psycho cos his face was disfigured so I dont think to any bionics would be a good thing for BA successor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tahrikmili Posted September 23, 2010 Share Posted September 23, 2010 Sounds cool but you'll end up wishing we had access to a Master of the Forge :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitefireinferno Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 ...Just make them part of the 21st founding the Bionics are just because of ^_^ luck and needing limbs replaced, But other than that It just sounds like Blood Iron hands to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allfather1 Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 I think this idea has potential. Alot of the BA fluff mentions astethic beauty, COme on these guys like things that look beautiful. Look at what happened to tycho when he got blasted in the face by the waag magic of that shamen, Tycho went Psycho cos his face was disfigured so I dont think to any bionics would be a good thing for BA successor. You could solve that problem by having the chapter spend more time on their bionics just like the blood angels spend more time on their armour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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