Fred Johnson the 3rd jr Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 I just want to be sure I have this right: Two Rune Priests: - cannot have the same two psychic abilities (even if their armor or weapons are different) - can each have a bolt pistol and power armor, so long as one of them has some other additional wargear to distinguish themselves, such as Chooser of the Slain or a Wolf Tail Talisman. (But one having a Saga and one not, would not count as different "wargear" in this context). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/210457-hq-cannot-use-the-same-wargear/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
CainTheHunter Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 I just want to be sure I have this right: Two Rune Priests: - cannot have the same two psychic abilities (even if their armor or weapons are different) - can each have a bolt pistol and power armor, so long as one of them has some other additional wargear to distinguish themselves, such as Chooser of the Slain or a Wolf Tail Talisman. (But one having a Saga and one not, would not count as different "wargear" in this context). You are correct in both cases, but Sagas count as wargear in this context. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/210457-hq-cannot-use-the-same-wargear/#findComment-2505867 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Johnson the 3rd jr Posted September 6, 2010 Author Share Posted September 6, 2010 Hmm, Sagas count in making them different. Interesting. Thanks dude. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/210457-hq-cannot-use-the-same-wargear/#findComment-2505922 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderhawk3015 Posted September 6, 2010 Share Posted September 6, 2010 That and it says under the sagas than you can't have the same one twice. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/210457-hq-cannot-use-the-same-wargear/#findComment-2506029 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CainTheHunter Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 That and it says under the sagas than you can't have the same one twice. Yes - and You can't have same Sagas not only on Your Rune Priests, but on ANY HQ whatsover. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/210457-hq-cannot-use-the-same-wargear/#findComment-2506177 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spacefrisian Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 In regards to psychic powers (taken from the gw Errata) Q. Can you clarify how The Leaders of the Pack works with regards to psychic powers? A. No number of Rune Priests may share the exact same two psychic powers. For example, a Rune Priest may choose to take Living Lightning and Thunderclap. A second Rune Priest may then choose to take Living Lighting and Jaws of the Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/210457-hq-cannot-use-the-same-wargear/#findComment-2506542 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 A RP cannot be identical to another RP in any of three ways: They cannot share the same saga. No saga doesnt count as the same- there is no 'saga of nothing'. They cannot have the same set of powers. You can overlap one power- ie both have stormcaller, but one has murderous hurricane and the other jaws. They cannot have the same equipment. A wolf tail or a meltabomb in difference suffices. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/210457-hq-cannot-use-the-same-wargear/#findComment-2506587 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CainTheHunter Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 A RP cannot be identical to another RP in any of three ways: They cannot share the same saga. No saga doesnt count as the same- there is no 'saga of nothing'. They cannot have the same set of powers. You can overlap one power- ie both have stormcaller, but one has murderous hurricane and the other jaws. They cannot have the same equipment. A wolf tail or a meltabomb in difference suffices. So in terms of equipment, does the fact that one RP has Saga of something, while the other has no saga at all is enough to take them apart, providing that the rest of the equipment is similar? Lets say, both started as the standard 100 points RPriests before the Saga was added. This is the part which is a bit confusing to me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/210457-hq-cannot-use-the-same-wargear/#findComment-2506591 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anpu42 Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 A RP cannot be identical to another RP in any of three ways: They cannot share the same saga. No saga doesnt count as the same- there is no 'saga of nothing'. They cannot have the same set of powers. You can overlap one power- ie both have stormcaller, but one has murderous hurricane and the other jaws. They cannot have the same equipment. A wolf tail or a meltabomb in difference suffices. So in terms of equipment, does the fact that one RP has Saga of something, while the other has no saga at all is enough to take them apart, providing that the rest of the equipment is similar? Lets say, both started as the standard 100 points RPriests before the Saga was added. This is the part which is a bit confusing to me. Lets try it this way: You must have 3 Points of Difference 1] They cannot share the same saga. 2] They cannot have the same set of powers. You can overlap one power- ie both have stormcaller, but one has murderous hurricane and the other jaws. 3] They cannot have the same equipment. A wolf tail or a meltabomb in difference suffices. If any ONE is a Match to another Rune Preist it is not legal, ALL THREE must be Different. NO TWO Non-Special Characters Can Not have the Same Saga. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/210457-hq-cannot-use-the-same-wargear/#findComment-2506597 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tograth Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 sorry cain, but no. take a look at the following examples: rune priest with LL, jaws rune priest with LL, jaws, saga of the beastslayer this is not allowed. same psychic powers, same kit, different sagas. rune priest with LL, jaws rune priest with LL, stormcaller this is not allowed, same kit, different psychic powers, no sagas. rune priest with LL, jaws, bolter rune priest with LL, stormcaller this is the only one of theexamples which is allowed, as it is the only case where each character has different psychic powers, different kit AND different sagas. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/210457-hq-cannot-use-the-same-wargear/#findComment-2506601 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CainTheHunter Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 sorry cain, but no. take a look at the following examples: rune priest with LL, jaws rune priest with LL, jaws, saga of the beastslayer this is not allowed. same psychic powers, same kit, different sagas. rune priest with LL, jaws rune priest with LL, stormcaller this is not allowed, same kit, different psychic powers, no sagas. rune priest with LL, jaws, bolter rune priest with LL, stormcaller this is the only one of theexamples which is allowed, as it is the only case where each character has different psychic powers, different kit AND different sagas. I agree with all Your examples actually. The example I had in mind included Saga only for one of the Rune priests: RP LL, Jaws RP LL, Tempest, Saga of... I was thinking that this was enough to take them apart, but it appears that to be 100% legal they should look like RP LL, Jaws, Bolter RP LL, Tempest, Saga of... or RP LL, Jaws RP LL, Tempest, Saga of..., Bolter Right? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/210457-hq-cannot-use-the-same-wargear/#findComment-2506605 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freman Bloodglaive Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 Yes, they included the bolter option just so you can make two different Rune Priests without having to spend points. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/210457-hq-cannot-use-the-same-wargear/#findComment-2506671 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Johnson the 3rd jr Posted September 8, 2010 Author Share Posted September 8, 2010 Very thorough guys. Thanks! PS - Made my second Rune Priest in a pose where he is holding his staff two handed. This way I can alternate between bolter and bolt pistol as needed. And no one should care about the "hidden" gun, because honestly, when does a rune priest ever fire his gun anyway? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/210457-hq-cannot-use-the-same-wargear/#findComment-2506817 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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