what do do with 5 thunderwolve miniatures

[Gerwulf]

after one year of not liking the idea of Thunderwolves I looked at the miniatures from mythicast and they are just plain awesome for a great price.

 

so I caved in and ordered 5 of them but I'm not sure what to do with them.

I looked at most of the threads here and have some idea about what I could want.

 

I'm not yet sure whether I will just make 5 TWC or if i should add a IC.

 

The thing is, I've been playing Ragnar's great company since, well, forever. And I don't want to change that.

I'm also big on fluff and I don't want to have two wolf lords in my army.

 

From what I've seen most people use a lord on a TWM to go with their TWC. But there is no information about the viability of WGBL on a TWM to go with the TWC.

 

So, my questions are:

 

1) should I go with 5 TWC or with 4 TWC and one IC on a TWM.

2) is the WGBL a viable option on a TWM if I don't want to go with a WL

 

If I'm going with 5 TWC I will probably kit them out like this:

TH, SS, SS/MB, MB, CCW/BP

I don't like the idea of a bolter wielding miniature and I like to have 2 SS wielding guys. So I went with a second MB.

 

Alternatively I will add a WGBL with probably a SS and a frost axe or wolf claws, although it comes to quite a lot of points.

[Max_Dammit]

I see wolflord more as a stat than a function, Ragnar has better stats than a normal wolflord, so there just the upper ring of the wolf guard, the once next in line if something would happen to the current lord.

[Fenric]

I'm using mine as one Wolf Lord with Stormshield and Wolfclaw to use his higher initiative. Then I use one with thudnerhammer and anotehr with stormshield. Last two are normal Thunderwolf cavalry sicne they still have rending and alot of attacks and it's a good way to keep the points a bit down since the unit is expensive enough.

[Godhead]

WGBL are absolutely viable. The only real downside to the battle leader is the loss of one wound, one attack, and the option to take saga of the bear. I've only ever missed the extra wound on my battle leader.

 

I would run 4 TWC and an IC. This lets you field two special weapons in the squad and the unit goes from 5 models to 7 (take the 2 fen wolves for shooting wound allocation). I would arm one TWC with a TH. I tried out the powerfist since it saved 5 points, but against things like Meph, the TH more than pays for its 5 extra points.

 

You can go on the cheap and not give any saga or go with beastslayer. If you skip sagas completely you can kit the battle leader up pretty nicely for under 200 points. (RA, WTN, SS, WC, 2x Fen wolves).

 

Oh, and it's merely a matter of what's written on your army list if your WGBL model is exactly that or an actual WL.

[Evilbob]

I have mine built as 3 regular, 1 SS/BP, and 1 SS/TH and they've worked out great so far.

[PKAwolf]

the WGBL seems kinda meh to me, for the stats Id rather he was a rune priest; but thats not kosher.

so Im an 'in for a penny, in for a pound' guy and went full thunderlord to the tune of 265 points

plus with any IC in the unit you can always split him off when you move and set them up to charge separate targets, very convient.

[Wispy]

my philosophy is the squad protects the lord from shooting and the lord protects the squad in assault.

 

I like throwing the HQ in there for two reasons.

 

1. Leadership.

2. I5.

[wolf363839]

Agreed. The I5 is huge, especially with the Wolf Claw and/or Frostblade. Bottom line: playtest a few different combos and then go with what you like and what works for you. And as I always say, magnetize those arms!

[Valerian]

The thing is, I've been playing Ragnar's great company since, well, forever. And I don't want to change that.

I'm also big on fluff and I don't want to have two wolf lords in my army.

 

Definitely stick with what you like, and what you feel comfortable with. Ragnar is your Wolf Lord, so keep your TWC leader as a Wolf Guard Battle Leader.

 

From what I've seen most people use a lord on a TWM to go with their TWC. But there is no information about the viability of WGBL on a TWM to go with the TWC.

 

Most people do go with a Lord on the Mount, but they aren't constrained by the inclusion of another Wolf Lord (although a few folks do run dual WLs). The Battle Leader is perfectly viable, with just a minor disadvantage in a couple of stats to the Wolf Lord. On the positive note, the Battle Leader will be a little cheaper. He'll be an excellent addition to the unit, with his attacks at I5, and giving the unit the ability to bring a second Special Close Combat Weapon. I say, go for it.

 

If I'm going with 5 TWC I will probably kit them out like this:

TH, SS, SS/MB, MB, CCW/BP

I don't like the idea of a bolter wielding miniature and I like to have 2 SS wielding guys. So I went with a second MB.

 

Alternatively I will add a WGBL with probably a SS and a frost axe or wolf claws, although it comes to quite a lot of points.

 

Storm Shield and Wolf Claw or Storm Shield and Frost Axe will be just fine.

 

Valerian

[Gerwulf]

Thanks for the feedback.

 

You are right, I probably should got the magnetize route. Then I can have it all, 5 TWC or 4 TWC + IC plus different loadouts. :D

 

I think I will still go with a WGBL over a Lord, though. He is still I5 and has only one attack less.

And he will certainly get a weapon that lets him make use of the high initiative.

I vaguely remember a discussion on frostblade vs. wolfclaws, but I can't remember which one is better. I think it was the wolfclaw.

 

EDIT: paired with a SS the wolfclaw performs better up until T5, at T6 and above the frostblade is better

[fandon]

Thanks for the feedback.

 

You are right, I probably should got the magnetize route. Then I can have it all, 5 TWC or 4 TWC + IC plus different loadouts. :lol:

 

I think I will still go with a WGBL over a Lord, though. He is still I5 and has only one attack less.

And he will certainly get a weapon that lets him make use of the high initiative.

I vaguely remember a discussion on frostblade vs. wolfclaws, but I can't remember which one is better. I think it was the wolfclaw.

 

EDIT: paired with a SS the wolfclaw performs better up until T5, at T6 and above the frostblade is better

 

Ya Wolfclaw will wound more often at a lot of toughness values. I take a frost weapon for the sake of instant killing IC's in non MEQ lists, I also have a better chance of damaging vehicles if my meltabomb units die out or if my lord splits from my wolves. It all comes down to preference, I look at frost weapon as something that will handle more things in a sometimes scarier way.

[Godhead]

T5 and T6 is why there is a powerfist/thunderhammer in the twc squad. :) Use the claws IMO!!!

[Wysten]

Probably make 4 of them into two packs of 2, and the last one a lord.

 

Suprisingly enough, a Thunder Wolf with a Thunder hammer is a awesome bargin.

[Ravenger]

Ive always had success with my thunder wolves and an IC with them. I like the idea of two groups of two, I do not like the Idea of dropping your Int 5 for striking last with a fist/hammer so id suggest that you run with the claw or frost blade. I run my army with a Lord with Blade and Belt of russ, and some fen wolves as war gear in my squad of T-wolves, add in warrior born and hes a ferocious leader very similar to Ragnar himself. Instead of the Furious charge the lord has double charge range, and after the first round of combat you have the bonus attacks from your previous turn as a trade off for berserk charge.