So I started Space Wolves today & need some help.

WeeDawgNYC · September 10, 2010

ok so I managed to start picking up some stuff here & there. so far I have these:

x1 SM Battle Force box

x1 SM Commander box

x1 Scout Snipers box

x1 SW Terminator box

x2 Devistator squad box

x1 AoBR Dreadnought

x5 Thunderwolves

ok so based on what comes in the battle force & the rest can you guys help me out with my 1st list?

I will also purchase these next, but want to try & focus on what I have on-hand:

x1 Land Speeder

x1 Drop Pod

x1 Razorback

x1 Wolf Pack box

will I have enough troops or should I get another Wolf Pack box?

& as far as HQ goes I havnt decided what to get.

thanks guys for your help.

Anpu42 · September 10, 2010

The Space Wolf Battle Force Box is also a Good Choice

WeeDawgNYC · September 10, 2010

I was thinking to get that @ 1st but the SM one offers more for the money & I want my army to look different so with all the extras from the Wolfs Pack sprue I can dress them up + with an Assault Squad & Rhino included it was the better buy overall.

Gerwulf · September 10, 2010

depends on how "wolfy-looking" you want your Space Wolves to be.

With the current ratio they wont look very "wolfy".

I would certainly think about buying the SW battle force.

It contains 2 Space Wolves boxes, one DP and 5 scouts, if you add up the price you get the DP for free.

Since you already have a DP and one SW box on your to buy list I think it would be a good deal.

I'm sure the opinions vary, but I think sniper rifles are wasted on wolf scouts. BEL with the right equipment works so much better

and you can use your Long Fangs to get rid of MC.

Whether you have enough troops, well, it depends on how large a force you want. If you just want a 1500 or 2000 points army you should

start making army lists and focus on buying the things you need.

If you are like me (and many other players) and want to have >5k points worth of miniatures from which you choose your list you are more free in

what to buy.

What you certainly will need in my opinion is 3-4 grey hunter packs with 2 special weapons each (I would say at least 2 packs with 2 melta and 1 with plasma), preferrably in rhinos

and at least one long fang pack with 5 missile launchers, preferably in a razorback

The dreadnought and the drop pod go well together. but beware, if you drop your dreadnought unsupported into the enemy lines he wont survive long.

Edit:

oh, and where did you buy your thunderwolves from? Mythicast?

If your chapter is called the While Lions, you should be thinking about converting the white lions that come with the High Elves Chariot. Since there are horses and lions in the box, i'm sure you could buy them off of somebody not needing the lions.

Brother_Fatiswon · September 10, 2010

your currently sitting on 35 models in Power armor, 10 models in carpace armor (scouts) depending on what scale your army building to, you may have all the troop models you need. Seems the rule of thumb is a full Troop unit for every 500 points.

if that's the case, and your aiming for 1500 points, your all ready set.

i would order from GW mail order the $9.90 SW upgrade frame, get 2 of them.

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/...dId=prod150001a

after that i would think about your focus, that is, what is it you want to do with you marines.. personally instead of dapping in fast attack and transport, i would make a choice of one or the other, and get 3 of the unit of your choice, x3 land speeders...x3 drop pods.. x3 razor backs ( that would give you x4 rhinos, not a bad start to a solid mech army.)

personally sit on your hands and save your dollars. Model, and paint all that you have currently, and start cutting your teeth at 1000 points. play that for 2-3 months and see how you feel then. IMHO

SJumppanen · September 10, 2010

I think that those Devastator boxes may have been bit poor choice as there isn't many (if any) missile launchers.

http://space-wolves-grey.blogspot.com/2010...-army-list.html

Link has pretty solid 1K list in it.

hmk17 · September 10, 2010

The Devs may only have 1 Launcher a piece per box, but he does get one more from the SM battle box. The Dev's give him extras that he can use when the weather shifts eventually. (Always be prepared)

The SM battle force is okay. Tac squad is not bad, nor, the scouts, neither is the Rhino. The Assualt squad is kind of a miss. Skyclaws are hit or miss overall. Most players don't run them outside fun army lists. Also, the 5 man attack squad isn't that hot if I remember correctly.

The SW battle force is much better. While you don't get the troop diversity, you do get 20 PA troops and scouts. You also get a ton of extras for "wolfing out" other models. No rhino is a let down, especially in light of the drop pod replacing it. If pricing is remembered correctly, you either get the scouts or the drop pod for free essentially.

The main trick is what level games you want to be playing in. Grey Hunters are far and above the BEST troop we can put on the table for ability and points. Many people run 8-10 in a unit. That translates to 30-50 models depending on the army size and composition you want.

For HQ's off the start... Rune Priests. The $13 model is not shabby, but with the SW Pack box you can easily bash together a decent one or two.

For future purchases: Razorbacks. Use em as rhino's when you need them, spam them as razorbacks when you need that. Just solid purchases.

CainTheHunter · September 10, 2010

The SM battle force is okay. Tac squad is not bad, nor, the scouts, neither is the Rhino. The Assualt squad is kind of a miss. Skyclaws are hit or miss overall. Most players don't run them outside fun army lists. Also, the 5 man attack squad isn't that hot if I remember correctly.

Well, Skyclaws are not so bad actually and they are not very fun against oponent if used correctly. But You are correct - five of them is not enough, but the OP still gets 5 sets of running legs for GH conversions and extra bits for variety.

For future purchases: Razorbacks. Use em as rhino's when you need them, spam them as razorbacks when you need that. Just solid purchases.

So true! The same goes about Whirlwinds and other Rhino-chassis vehicles.

Anpu42 · September 10, 2010

Simple Basic Grey Hunter Tactics

Put a Wolf Guard with them with a Close Combat load out [Paired Wolf Claws, Thunder Hammer, Power Fist, Frost Blade ect].

Maybe a Wolf Priest

Other Good Weapon for the Characters: Combi-Plasma, Storm Bolters

Get 4 things

-Plasma Guns/Pistol Pistol

-Power Weapon/Power Fist

-MotW

-Wolf Standard

On your turn wait until your Assault Phase the turn Before he is going to Assault and Activate your Wolf Standard.

He now has 2 Choices

1] Charge into you, if you succeed in your Counter Attack Roll is will still be as if you Assaulted him, You will go 1st and Re-Roll any “Ones”, this includes To Hit Rolls, Damage Rolls, the number of Attacks on your MotW, Armor Saves and Sweeping Advance Rolls.

2] Wait one turn for the Standard to wear off and that gives you one more turn of Plasma fire

WeeDawgNYC · September 10, 2010

I think that those Devastator boxes may have been bit poor choice as there isn't many (if any) missile launchers.

what do you suggest I get in its place? all the items are still in shrink wrap except for the BF which Im gonna keep.

should I trade in the sniper scouts in for another unit of regular scouts or is 5 refular scouts good enough & just get something else with the sniper box, it does give me an extra missle launcher too at that.

help me out guys :o

Seems the rule of thumb is a full Troop unit for every 500 points.
if that's the case, and your aiming for 1500 points, your all ready set.

i would order from GW mail order the $9.90 SW upgrade frame, get 2 of them.

I plan on 1,500-2,500 pts at most for now. & for the price of x2 upgrade kits I can buy x1 wolfpack from my venue & it comes with a set of legs too.

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CainTheHunter · September 10, 2010

You can hunt those missile launchers on various bits sites. I've been lucky enough to get ~ 5 missile launchers this way. As for scouits, You can start with a small pack of 5 (meltagun is mandatory there) + Wolf guard for the beginning to see whether You like them as anti-tank or close-combat. I found out that for me 5 are not enough and now I am running 10 of them with Wolf guard. But 5 is good for beginning.

Upgrade kits are useful, for they have meltagun, the old single-handed poweraxe and neat textured wolfskull shoulderpad. Alternatively, You can raid meltaguns on bits sites - they are less often and missile launchers, but sometimes You get lucky. There is also a pack of 5 melta guns on GW online store - I'd suggest You picking one of them.

SJumppanen · September 10, 2010

There is also a pack of 5 melta guns on GW online store - I'd suggest You picking one of them.

There isn't any point in collecting meltaguns from that upgrade kit as those have only 1 melta each and you do need more than as you do want to have combi melta for WG.

WeeDawgNYC · September 10, 2010

see thats another thing that prevented me from trying out 40k (Ive been playing fantasy for over a decade) was the dam guns! I cant tell them apart for !@#$% is it that important to have the "actual" guns on the minis, its not suffice to build them as they come & just tell the opponent what euiptment the have based on your list instead of wysiwyg?