Sons of the Daemon

[Ace Debonair]

Honestly I like the first and fourth ones. The last one may have you been going crazy, but I think it looks great. :D

 

Well done mate, and if DAT doesn't use the first one, I may steal that particular style (not the colours, god not those colours, they really aren't mine) for another chapter of mine. Or perhaps even the Blazing Sons Veterans! ;)

Sure, go crazy. But if DAT wants to use it instead, you're out of luck. :lol:

 

On a more serious note, I kept DAT's colour-blindness in mind when creating these schemes, intentionally picking colour schemes with more contrast in them. Although the purple might not be bright enough, I guess the only way to be sure is to wait and see.

 

Edit: Ace, do you have any sort of talent for the use of editing programs like Gimp or Photoshop? You have a fairly good eye for the relationship between colours and shades so it could be quite a good venture for you. Gimp is free as well, by the way.

Take it from me, my computer art skills are best measured with negative numbers. :sweat:

Pictures may be worth a thousand words, but in my case, I'd be better off with using the thousand words. :lol:

[Dark Apostle Thirst]

I'm not sure why you would want the first one, but the second one is very pleasing. I like the fourth as well, although IMVHO the white/blue (aqua?) could be toned down (brightness wise, aka made darker) just a little. The third.... I may have a prejudice against schemes which have their secondary color in the middle

 

Hmmmm... It'll probably be the second one, then. Is it Daemony enough for the rest of the Liberites?

[Shinzaren]

I vote against number two. Not for daemonic reasons. But because it is a near copy of the Brazen Claws. Sowwy Ace :lol:

 

See here:

I'm so BRAZEN!!

[Ace Debonair]

Bah! Damnable GW! Stealing my ideas before I've even had 'em! :)

 

DAT, word to the wise - the third one was pretty much all brown with red and blue shoulderpads. I think you mean the first one, which had the other colour in the middle. ;)

 

Nevertheless - point taken. Quartering red and another colour seems like the way to go.

 

I'll throw a few more ideas at the painter and see what sticks. :D

 

EDIT:

Here's what stuck:

POST-EDIT EDIT: Removed further failed attempts to colour in the SotD.

 

The first one is the same as my last scheme, only with a darker blue. The second one is using the tan-and-red again, but quartered, since we didn't rule the colour combo out. (And it was these colours I originally envisioned these guys with :P ) The last one is with a bright orange to contrast the dull red, and I thought I'd try the trim colour on the shoulderpads.

 

I admit, I'm not sure about the turquoise, but if that's the only thing that meets disapproval, I'll at least know I'm getting closer. ^_^

Edited October 19, 2010 by Ace Debonair

[Grey Hunter Ydalir]

I like the Grey+Red+Gold one, the first one as it is displayed on my monitor.

[Dark Apostle Thirst]

Your right in thinking the Turquoise is bad. It is not to be used with Tan, it contrasts fine but how it contrasts is poor. That sentence wasn't a contradiction, nor is this one a paradox.

 

The second one is definitely better, but those elbowpads need to go. Instead of having a Turqouise aquila (well, only the EC actually had the aquila) and eyepeices, use blue, like the one on my original color scheme? It works well with red.

[Ace Debonair]

Your right in thinking the Turquoise is bad. It is not to be used with Tan, it contrasts fine but how it contrasts is poor. That sentence wasn't a contradiction, nor is this one a paradox.

Well, I personally quite like turquoise as a colour for marines, but I agree it's not really what these guys need.

 

The second one is definitely better, but those elbowpads need to go. Instead of having a Turqouise aquila (well, only the EC actually had the aquila) and eyepeices, use blue, like the one on my original color scheme? It works well with red.

BAM! :D

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EDIT: Taken out the two non-contenders.

 

Speaking for myself, I'm not fond of two primary colours (such as red and blue, or red and yellow) on a colourscheme. But since this isn't my chapter, my rules don't apply.

 

I was only going to post the blue one, then noticed the space-wolf-coloured wingspan looked pretty sweet too. :lol:

After that, I figured I might as well maximize the possibilities. Any of these more in keeping with your mental image of these dudes?

Edited October 20, 2010 by Ace Debonair

[Dark Apostle Thirst]

The first and the third excel here. The second suffers from simply being too different (not in contrast, but in the feel behind it) from the two primary colors and the last from having gray already featured in the soft areas of the armour.

 

Of the two remaining, I'm forced to admit the third is probably better here, although consensus from the Liberites would be appreciated.

[God Of War]

No offense intended, but I thought this was about the story, not the color scheme.

[Dark Apostle Thirst]

No offense intended, but I thought this was about the story, not the color scheme.

Good point. I'm still working on the Wraiths, though, when I give the Wraiths an update the Sons will receive the same.

[Shinzaren]

The goal of an IA is to nail down all the specifics of a Chapter. From story to coloring. It's important to get everything right. It might not be the most vital part, but it's certainly not pointless to get one right Besides, sometimes the brain needs a rest from writing and coming up with ideas.

[Ace Debonair]

The first and the third excel here. The second suffers from simply being too different (not in contrast, but in the feel behind it) from the two primary colors and the last from having gray already featured in the soft areas of the armour.

 

Of the two remaining, I'm forced to admit the third is probably better here, although consensus from the Liberites would be appreciated.

Note to any readers - I took out two of the four pictures to cut down on picture totals. So, if it looks like DAT is rambling, he's not. <_<

 

EDIT: God Of War: Sometimes a picture is worth a thousand words... and a page full of posts. ^_^

Edited October 20, 2010 by Ace Debonair

[Grey Hunter Ydalir]

No offense intended, but I thought this was about the story, not the color scheme.

 

Also, it's not a 'story' so much as it is a 'thematic summation' of the chapter. An Index Astartes is a summary of who the chapter is and what they do. What it includes are various cool snippets and colour texts that can allow the writer to get the movie in his head onto the page.

 

This isn't a short story, nor is it a novel. Yes you come here to learn about the chapter, but deciding on the colour scheme that best matches them, as the very first and most obvious expression of the chapters character, it's not a trivial matter.

[God Of War]

Sorry if the post irritated some of you, but there's no need to take my head.

[Shinzaren]

Sorry haha, we get crabby :D We didn't mean to bite your head off, just to explain that while it may APPEAR that we are doing nothing, we're actually trying to accomplish something. I'm sure Ace, Grey, DAT, and myself didn't mean any offense towards you. Though Ace is getting squirrely in his old age...so it's hard to say for him...

[God Of War]

I like Ace's second scheme the best (The one with the gold aquila).If you added the little dirt option thingy (For lack of better word) and used older marks of armor and weapons it woild really look like the chapter had been living in solitude.

 

 

 

P.S.-Thanks Shinzaren

[Dark Apostle Thirst]

I like Ace's second scheme the best (The one with the gold aquila).If you added the little dirt option thingy (For lack of better word) and used older marks of armor and weapons it woild really look like the chapter had been living in solitude.

 

I hadn't thought of that. Hmmmmm... Letting their armour slowly deteriorate? Perhaps discarding personal servitors?

 

 

Hmmmm....

[Shinzaren]

If you watch closely, you can almost see the gears in his head turning.

[God Of War]

I like Ace's second scheme the best (The one with the gold aquila).If you added the little dirt option thingy (For lack of better word) and used older marks of armor and weapons it woild really look like the chapter had been living in solitude.

 

I hadn't thought of that. Hmmmmm... Letting their armour slowly deteriorate? Perhaps discarding personal servitors?

 

 

Hmmmm....

People often look and dress the way they feel.If the've been living in shame and they had done no fighting for a while (Assumption), they wouldn't have a reason to maintain their armor.Who would they have to look good for?

[God Of War]

If you watch closely, you can almost see the gears in his head turning.

And if you watch me, you can see a gear jam, pop off, and derail the entire operation. :wallbash:

[Dark Apostle Thirst]

If you watch closely, you can almost see the gears in his head turning.

 

Your not helping. I had an idea of some daemon seeking Chaos Warband and I just replaced that with a flesh removing Iron Hand esque warband, that replaces their biological components with machine and warp matter, much like Obliterators, but far weaker.

 

I like Ace's second scheme the best (The one with the gold aquila).If you added the little dirt option thingy (For lack of better word) and used older marks of armor and weapons it woild really look like the chapter had been living in solitude.

 

I hadn't thought of that. Hmmmmm... Letting their armour slowly deteriorate? Perhaps discarding personal servitors?

 

 

Hmmmm....

People often look and dress the way they feel.If the've been living in shame and they had done no fighting for a while (Assumption), they wouldn't have a reason to maintain their armor.Who would they have to look good for?

 

Oh, they fight a lot. They just do it with a lot of shame.

[Ace Debonair]

Oh, they fight a lot. They just do it with a lot of shame.

They'd have to fight well out of the way of the rest of the Imperium, though, if they're a lost legion.

Up to now we don't know anything about what happened to them (where they went after exile or whatever) so I thought I'd bring that up in my usual pedantic, only-the-facts-as-written-count-for-anything way. :)

 

That said, the un-maintained look for the armour could work - a visible symbol of their shame and guilt over the whole exile thing.

 

Though Ace is getting squirrely in his old age...so it's hard to say for him...

Old age, maybe, but comparing me to a squirrel? Really? :)

And I made the funniest riposte, anyway. So there. :P

[God Of War]

Oh, they fight a lot. They just do it with a lot of shame.

They'd have to fight well out of the way of the rest of the Imperium, though, if they're a lost legion.

Probably somewhere in the Halo Zone or the Eastern Fringe.

Edit: I meant to put maybe.

Edited October 21, 2010 by God Of War

[Dark Apostle Thirst]

Oh, they fight a lot. They just do it with a lot of shame.

They'd have to fight well out of the way of the rest of the Imperium, though, if they're a lost legion.

Probably somewhere in the Halo Zone or the Eastern Fringe.

Edit: I meant to put maybe.

You'll see <_<

[Dark Apostle Thirst]

Alright... going to start working on these guys again...

 

Hmmmm... I feel like I shouldn't drop the wings, and make the mutations more severe, but how to convey that it isn't a boon, but a curse...?