masterchief4312 Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 since space wolves are a close combat oriented army, i decided to equip a dreadnought with a twin-linked lascannon and a missile pod to enhance my army's long range strength. however, my friend was playing as eldar, and he assaulted my dreadnought. I said my dreadnought could still fight in close combat, but he said it couldn't. so the question is, can a dreadnought with no close combat weapons still fight in an assault? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/211310-dreadnought-with-no-close-combat-weapons/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinkenheim Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 it has attacks and Ws listed on its profile so it can still fight. It won't ignore armour saves and it will only be str 6 but other than that it can fight perfectly well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/211310-dreadnought-with-no-close-combat-weapons/#findComment-2514029 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Normish Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 Like stinkenheim said, yes, it can. I had that doubt as well the first time it happened to me, but then I figured, hey, it has feet right? Even if immobilized, it can still slam its face into the ground. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/211310-dreadnought-with-no-close-combat-weapons/#findComment-2514035 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leardinal Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 Yes it can still fight The Normish Posted Today, 05:20 PM:it has feet right? Even if immobilized, it can still slam its face into the ground. The way 40k is described is that each roll of the die is just a rough guestimation of all the things that occur at once if it where real. Obviously, an AR wouldn't only shoot two shots if they where trying to kill an enemy, instead each dice rolls represent hundreds of shots being expended, but such is the awesomeness of space marines they just walk through it. Just like shooting, CC is also simplified. Each roll could be dozens of strikes at an opponent, so make a dreadnaught with no cc weapon in combat a humors battle if your foe dosn't believe you: Think of strange and silly ways that the dread could hurt his opponents. Examples: The dread stomps on an enemy, round house kicks another, and one of his foes attacks but breaks their arm when the weapon makes contact with the dread's armor, essentially incapacitating the foolish foe for the rest of the game. If all else fails, pull out your rule book and show them page 73 about walkers and assaults, then call your opponent a kill joy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/211310-dreadnought-with-no-close-combat-weapons/#findComment-2514095 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kassill Posted September 16, 2010 Share Posted September 16, 2010 Yeah, I have had my dread headbutt few good things ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/211310-dreadnought-with-no-close-combat-weapons/#findComment-2514108 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Growler67 Posted September 17, 2010 Share Posted September 17, 2010 Swinging of the torso could plant the barrel of a TLLC across the forehead(s) of an opponent in each swipe, right? Try thinking out of the box a bit and a WHOLE new world may be opend unto you. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/211310-dreadnought-with-no-close-combat-weapons/#findComment-2514270 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted September 17, 2010 Share Posted September 17, 2010 I always enjoyed the 'stomping' effect. Like the other day- SW Dread is assaulted by a lithe eldar Farseer- who lopped off both arms with elegant strokes, and as she poised for the finall thrusting blow, the enraged dread simply stepped on her, crushing the life from her frame and proceeding to decimate the nearby squad shed left. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/211310-dreadnought-with-no-close-combat-weapons/#findComment-2514277 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leardinal Posted September 17, 2010 Share Posted September 17, 2010 Like the other day- SW Dread is assaulted by a lithe eldar Farseer- who lopped off both arms with elegant strokes, and as she poised for the finall thrusting blow, the enraged dread simply stepped on her, crushing the life from her frame and proceeding to decimate the nearby squad shed left. Stomping does seem to have a certain kind of anticlimax feel, for the foe. Still, if the dread had charged through cover, losing its arms by running a smidge too walls/trees, then jumped and simply fell onto the squad it does make it the far seer less impressive. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/211310-dreadnought-with-no-close-combat-weapons/#findComment-2514312 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillen Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 when 3rd edition came out I was playing a Tourny at HubCon in Mississippi. I was fighting Guard and they blew off both my arms. So my Dread assaulted. All he could do. And he squished a guy. They lost combat and fell back. I caught them and stomped them all to death, and sweeping advanced into melee again. On his round I won the combat by one wound again and they broke again and he caught them all killing them and I moved close to a 3rd squad. My turn I charge and stomp another one and of course they break and I killed them all. An Armless dreadnought kill 3 Guard squads in 2 turns and rolled his whole left flank. Was amazing. Bad dice rolls for him. And a solid win for me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/211310-dreadnought-with-no-close-combat-weapons/#findComment-2515543 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blitzkreig Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 I always imagined that a Dread with no arms spins around like mad and the enemies hurt themselves when they try to attack the 5 story, multi-ton metal monstrosity. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/211310-dreadnought-with-no-close-combat-weapons/#findComment-2515821 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 since space wolves are a close combat oriented army, i decided to equip a dreadnought with a twin-linked lascannon and a missile pod to enhance my army's long range strength. I just don't get it. A Space Wolf without a close combat weapon? I don't understand. ^_^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/211310-dreadnought-with-no-close-combat-weapons/#findComment-2516226 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demonslayer Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 since space wolves are a close combat oriented army, i decided to equip a dreadnought with a twin-linked lascannon and a missile pod to enhance my army's long range strength. I just don't get it. A Space Wolf without a close combat weapon? I don't understand. :P Because us Space Wolves don't need CCW to smash our enemy's to a plup, we just like them because they're shiny :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/211310-dreadnought-with-no-close-combat-weapons/#findComment-2516421 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schertenleib Posted September 20, 2010 Share Posted September 20, 2010 Space Wolves don't need CCW to smash our enemy's to a plup, we just like them because they're shiny :) That needs to be sigged! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/211310-dreadnought-with-no-close-combat-weapons/#findComment-2516537 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapter Master Ignis Domus Posted September 20, 2010 Share Posted September 20, 2010 When in doubt, immobilized, and armless, fall on the enemy. If you can't fall on them, you have a problem. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/211310-dreadnought-with-no-close-combat-weapons/#findComment-2516560 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Requiem of the Wolf Posted September 20, 2010 Share Posted September 20, 2010 Have you ever seen what happens when a semi hits someone? now picture that semi is pissed off at you and even worse...able to chase you. Plus your Dreadnaught could certainly pistolwhip the enemy with the barrel of his lascannon..or you could model it like man,with a big gnarly chainsaw as a bayonet. Yes...all my Lascannons have chainsword Bayonets...why? because its funny as hell. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/211310-dreadnought-with-no-close-combat-weapons/#findComment-2516634 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Wilhelm Posted September 20, 2010 Share Posted September 20, 2010 Dreadnoughts without DCCW do the booty bounce like Big Momma. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/211310-dreadnought-with-no-close-combat-weapons/#findComment-2516638 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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