traxter Posted September 17, 2010 Share Posted September 17, 2010 So I just went to a yard sale and saw a box full of multicolored mini figurines and after closer examination they were all space marines! SCORE! the lady sold me 80 mixed marines and HQ's plus a razor rhino and whirlwind for 25$ said her son hasn't touched them for awhile and left them behind.1500 pts worth easily. Anyways i think her son was 2 years old when he painted these. worst paint jobs ever. like complete trash not even worthy of putting on a bench next to a table. So how can i get the think gobs of paint off these models well enough to paint them or should i just get a matte black spray can and hope for the best? Thanks for any advice. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/211367-help-need-to-repaint/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingsOfTheFalcon Posted September 17, 2010 Share Posted September 17, 2010 US - Simple Green UK - Nitromors Grats, great score though! :cuss Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/211367-help-need-to-repaint/#findComment-2514574 Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain sox Posted September 17, 2010 Share Posted September 17, 2010 dettol is great for stripping paint. Just wear gloves and use in ventilated area. Don't know if the fumes are harmful, but they are powerful! Leave them in a 100% solution overnight... paint should strip off with soft toothbrush. DON'T use water... keep your toothbrush in Dettol as well. I stripped my whole 2000pts of Marines this way... very effective. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/211367-help-need-to-repaint/#findComment-2514874 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Normish Posted September 17, 2010 Share Posted September 17, 2010 I envy your luck. I tried stripping models once, using low quality brake fluid. Don't use that. It makes the models are weirdly shiny and makes them smell strange. And then they leave an oily residue everywhere. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/211367-help-need-to-repaint/#findComment-2514883 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xeonic Posted September 17, 2010 Share Posted September 17, 2010 Seconding Simple Green, just immerse the models for 24-48 hrs or so, then scrub with an old toothbrush. If the paint is super thick you might have to soak them a second or possibly third time. I recently came acrost 25 tacticals and a captain that someone had apparently just piled paint on for $17, and I managed to pull off 95% of the paint in two passes, leaving me to pick the remnants out of the little nooks and crannies with a sewing pin, no problem and the models themselves were all in reasonably good shape. Simple green is between $3 and $6 for a spraybottle which contains a quart of the stuff and it's reuseable with a simple filtering to get rid of the particulate paint remnants. I just use a widemouth mason jar(the type for canning) with a plastic lid to soak infantry models in, or a plastic tray/basin thing for larger models such as rhino hull vehicles. It's also nontoxic and smells quite nice. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/211367-help-need-to-repaint/#findComment-2514911 Share on other sites More sharing options...
averykess Posted September 17, 2010 Share Posted September 17, 2010 Post pics before you strip them. I want to know how bad they are! :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/211367-help-need-to-repaint/#findComment-2515044 Share on other sites More sharing options...
templarboy Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 Post pics before you strip them. I want to know how bad they are! I second that request. I am always stunned at some of the really bad paint jobs I have seen. Must be the snob in me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/211367-help-need-to-repaint/#findComment-2515109 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bay Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 Plastics, I use simple green. If the paint still won't come off from the simple green, I then use Dot 3 brake fluid and that then usual gets the job done. Pewter's ONLY, I use acetone. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/211367-help-need-to-repaint/#findComment-2515162 Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterdyne Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 Incidentally simple green is available over tinternet in UK, and while it's not super cheap (£6 / litre ish) it really is all it's cracked up to be. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/211367-help-need-to-repaint/#findComment-2515919 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Butcher Posted September 20, 2010 Share Posted September 20, 2010 US - Simple GreenUK - Nitromors Grats, great score though! :) Doesn't Nitromors dissolve the Plastic? Post pics before you strip them. I want to know how bad they are! :P http://1d4chan.org/wiki/THIN_YOUR_PAINTS WARNING! Bad language contained within the link (cause now you just have to take a looksee dont ya?) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/211367-help-need-to-repaint/#findComment-2517221 Share on other sites More sharing options...
brolthemighty Posted September 20, 2010 Share Posted September 20, 2010 Be warned that Simple Green will also dissolve the glue bonding. I've got 65 Plague Marines (half pewter, and half FW kits) that need stripped....which is fine for the pewter, but the FW ones have a LOT of custom kits and such...and so making them come all unglued is a pain. Still looking for a good alternative that doesn't dissolve the glue. Maybe something in Japan (I'm in northern Japan currently.) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/211367-help-need-to-repaint/#findComment-2517263 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kassill Posted September 20, 2010 Share Posted September 20, 2010 I envy your luck.I tried stripping models once, using low quality brake fluid. Don't use that. It makes the models are weirdly shiny and makes them smell strange. And then they leave an oily residue everywhere. Hrm... I use Dollar General brand brake fluid and it works fine. Sounds to me like you, and I dont mean this rude, didnt do it correctly. I have only done the following with plastic and pewter. 1) Place mini's in Brake Fluid 2) Leave said mini's in for at least an hour. Better brand maybe quiker, but for cheap stuff, an hour should work. 3) Take mini and scrub with old toothbrush and watch the magic happen. 4) keep scrubbing till all the major areas are void of paint. 5) Soap. I use the soap with the orange scent and the little flecks that help when you have like oily hands and stuff. Cant remember the name. Cover the model with this and lightly scrub the soap into the crevices. 6)Let sit for a few seconds and then scrub as normal. 7)Rinse under warm water and then let mini dry. Repeat 5-7 with a different brush until the oily brake fluid is completely gone. viola, clean stripped mini with brake fluid! Shoot. I might just take some pics tomorrow when I strip some more mini's and post a Tut! :P Good luck all. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/211367-help-need-to-repaint/#findComment-2517335 Share on other sites More sharing options...
brolthemighty Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 Has anyone heard of using Castrol Super Clean Degreaser? I've read a review that says it does amazing....but there's no mention of whether it's glue/GS friendly? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/211367-help-need-to-repaint/#findComment-2517644 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todosi Posted October 1, 2010 Share Posted October 1, 2010 Anything that is going to dissolve the paint will likely also dissolve supeglue bonds. Simple Green is the best, and safest alternative. You may just have to deal with reassembly. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/211367-help-need-to-repaint/#findComment-2526239 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsutter Posted October 2, 2010 Share Posted October 2, 2010 Simple green does work great, but I find that it does not need the amount of time in it as some suggest. The difference between 4 hours and 48 hours in a bath of it is negligible, but if you are patient the extra time in the bath does not hurt. This is also how I have picked up many many minis. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/211367-help-need-to-repaint/#findComment-2526698 Share on other sites More sharing options...
igotsmeakabob!! Posted October 2, 2010 Share Posted October 2, 2010 Simple Green. Give it a couple days. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/211367-help-need-to-repaint/#findComment-2526717 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necronpheliac Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 castrol super clean is the bomb diggity! I stripped a whole mess of Orcs n Gobbos, and some mhreens as well. It does tend to get weaken the glue sometimes, but the plastics are unmarred. Usually suggest diluting it with water a bit depending on how hefty the gunked on paint is. Let it sit for at least 24 hours to be safe. I have accidently left models in the super clean bath for weeks and it doesnt seem to hurt the plastic. Nice thing too is that you can reuse the same batch of super clean a couple of times! It loses potency the more you use it ,but it has some longevity. Whatever you do tho, WEAR GLOVES WHEN USING IT! It dries the the skin on your hands like crazy. My hands looks like the surface of tallarn for a while after a foolheardy jaunt without rubber gauntlets. You can usually get super clean in the US at places like autozone and such. I bought a large jug and have stripped over 100 models with it and still have a ton left. On a side note i did notice that when i stripped models primed with skull white primer, the super clean removed the paint down to the bare plastics but when cleaning something primed with Chaos black it removes every other layer save for the chaos black. Its kinda odd but i usually just mist a light coat of primer after ive stripped. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/211367-help-need-to-repaint/#findComment-2527903 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakael Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 Castrol super-clean degreaser is the way to go. I use it on plastic and metal both with great results. It IS safe for green stuff but seems to weaken superglue which is fine for me. I have never used simple green to strip models but am unimpressed with its cleaning capabilities. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/211367-help-need-to-repaint/#findComment-2529313 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chromedog Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 I envy your luck.I tried stripping models once, using low quality brake fluid. Don't use that. It makes the models are weirdly shiny and makes them smell strange. And then they leave an oily residue everywhere. Did you try to ... Oh, I don't know, MAYBE WASH THEM IN SOAPY WATER AFTERWARDS? Takes care of the residue AND any smell. Seems that people who know what they are doing do anyway. Pretty much rules out 90% internet crowd. It's ALL I use to strip plastics or metals. Neat brake fluid. They come out "oddly shiny" because it even strips the oxide coating off the metals (many metals are only shiny for a short time until the oxide coating forms). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/211367-help-need-to-repaint/#findComment-2529340 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShinyRhino Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 Better, or worse than these bikers I got secondhand? http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z43/goalie20/Warhammer%2040K/LPC%202010/before1.jpg http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z43/goalie20/Warhammer%2040K/LPC%202010/before2.jpg http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z43/goalie20/Warhammer%2040K/LPC%202010/before3.jpg http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z43/goalie20/Warhammer%2040K/LPC%202010/before4.jpg http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z43/goalie20/Warhammer%2040K/LPC%202010/before5.jpg http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z43/goalie20/Warhammer%2040K/LPC%202010/before6.jpg They ended up like this, after Simple Green soaking, and then a week in a jar full of oven cleaner, oh, and my paintjob ;) http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z43/goalie20/Warhammer%2040K/LPC%202010/bike2a.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/211367-help-need-to-repaint/#findComment-2529764 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necronpheliac Posted October 8, 2010 Share Posted October 8, 2010 shinyrhino, if we were in arms length of one another , i would give you a hearty Bro fist. That is an awesome revitalization project there and a slammin paint job. Simple green is like Axe body wash for plastics models. It's how dirty minis get clean. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/211367-help-need-to-repaint/#findComment-2531008 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemal Posted October 8, 2010 Share Posted October 8, 2010 Simple green does have its issues with residue but yeah - just don't leave etal minis in it too long as it seems to discolor them:-S Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/211367-help-need-to-repaint/#findComment-2531071 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanhausen Posted October 8, 2010 Share Posted October 8, 2010 Sorry shinyrhino but which is the original and which the one to stripp? :P I use isopropylic alcohol and I'm VERY happy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/211367-help-need-to-repaint/#findComment-2531463 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myxx Posted October 8, 2010 Share Posted October 8, 2010 As someone who considers myself to be a fairly bad painter, it shocks me at how much worse some people really are. Those 'before' pics of the bikes are horrific! But very nice job on the 'afters'. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/211367-help-need-to-repaint/#findComment-2531499 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dswanick Posted October 8, 2010 Share Posted October 8, 2010 Just my two cents. A few years ago my home was flooded. Tens of thousands of dollars in GW minis ruined by a toxi soup of flood water, sewage, and various petroleum chemicals (I lived next to an International truck dealership/repair facility). I tried many approachs to strip the crud off. Simple Green works on plastics. Acetone type paint stripper works on metals. On the worste of the plastics, Simple Green alone was not enough. I'm an auto tech by trade, so for those I used DOT 3 brake fuid. Some of the truly obnoxious models I had to leave in brake fluid for 30 days. It worked, the paint and everything else came off. As for the above mentioned oilyness and smell, take them out of the brake fluid, scrub them clean of paint, then soak them in a 10:1 soultion of Simple Green overnight. A good scrubbing, and a couple rinses in clean water and they will be ready to take primer. Good luck. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/211367-help-need-to-repaint/#findComment-2531511 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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