Ultramarines successor chapter Fluff without being flammed

[pantsdown]

Hello,

 

I have worked on a Space Marine Army using the Space Marine Codex for over a year or so but never wanted to use the colour schemes of other chapters or successor chapters.

 

I attempted to create my own successor chapter but was flammed down at a different forum no names mentioned. So I plan on attempting it again but this time following some guidelines that hopefully keep me under the flamers radar.

 

So by all means comment but easy on any insults if you got suggestions please feel free... its a work in progress. This first post is the over all idea if it seems cool then i might expand a little bit more...

 

Concept: Ultramarine successor chapter that hunts down Alpha Legion outposts (eastern edge of the universe)

Name: Omega Brethern

Colour Scheme...

Primary: Midnight blue

Secondary: Blazing Orange (should trim/knee pads)

Symbol: upside down U that the ultrmarines use making it the Omega symbol

 

Story: This is the most difficult part, i just cannot write anything due to the fluff being correct so I am asking for a little help.....

 

I know that post heresy that the Ultramarines and Alpha Legion fought on Eskrador. Roboute suposed kills the primarch of the alpha legion but the legion fights them away etc....

I wanted to run along with this and see if there is anything from there that could leave the door open for this successor chapter to come in. Perhaps in the future due to random attacks from the Alpha Legion this chapter gets formed after too many investigations leading to the same conclusion.

 

 

Thats all i got sofar, i don't want to rewrite history and don't know if i have stepped on any toes. It is not my intention to make this chapter uber awesome or be there during the key turning points, just want it to have some roots that make sense.

 

Cheer and thanks for your reading time and any comments made

[Seahawk]

First, welcome to the B&C! Don't worry about any such flame; we mods don't allow it here :) . In fact, looking at your idea I can't see how anybody could flame it, other than you used the word Ultramarines and they went all hurr durrrrrr.

 

I don't know about the deep blue...that's a lot like Alpha Legion. If it's your favorite color to paint, then by all means go for it! Remember too, as a codex successor chapter, the trim color is typically the company color, so orange would be the 6th company, which is a tactical reserve company.

 

The door is wide open for you to use; GW specifically writes this way so people can make up their stories, such as your own. The big question for you seems to be the why. Why are the Omega Brethren targeting the Alpha Legion? Perhaps the chapter was formed to hunt them down, or spy on them to find out why they didn't collapse when (one of) their primarch was killed. I'd say pick a good "why" and then keep going from there.

[pantsdown]

Thanks for the very quick response and also very informative with regards to the colours.... the dark blue would be kinda close, i was also considering a liche purple with tin bitz trim for something different but i will have to look into that more.

 

Thanks

[Legatus]

I'll second the concerns about the colour scheme. A dark blue would not only look similar to the Alpha Legion, but to the Ultramarines as well. Perhaps the Chapter should be a bit more differentiated from these two, since they have a shared background? But I assume these are the colours you like. Which colour would the "omega" be? Orange as well, or were you thinking of white like with the Ultramarines? A lot of people may simply think you have odd painted Ultramarines...

(The complementary colour to blue, i.e. "the opposite" would be orange. Perhaps that could be used for it's symbolism as the Alpha Legion's antithesis?)

 

 

About the background: In oder to have a connection to the battle on Eskrador, your Chapter would have to be 2nd Founding. It is best for DIY Chapters to not go there, even if not all of the Ultramarines 2nd Founding Chapters are known. It would perhaps be better if your Chapter had it's own history with the Alpha Legion. The Codex Space Marines has a short story about how the Alpha Legion over the course of several decades infiltrates a loyalist Chapter and finally manages to turn a large part of it. Perhaps the Alpha Legion tried something with your Chapter, but it was discovered? Such a vile attempt to turn or destroy your Chapter could not be tolerated by the Chapter Master, and he would henceforth make it the prime objective of his Chapter to combat the threat of the Alpha Legion. Or maybe not quite as intricate, perhaps the Chapter was simply attacked by the Alpha Legion. Perhaps it was all but destroyed in the fight (a bit of modesty goes along way with DIY stuff). That could be a reason for a feud with the Alpha Legion or an oath to seek and fight them as well.

As the sworn enemies of the Alpha Legion, the theme of your Chapter could be an extreme focus on security and counter-intelligence, bordering on the paranoid. Librarians are vital in screening questionable subjects, and everything is questioned and double-checked far beyond the usual measures.

 

 

Also, don't let anyone tell you that the Alpha Legion is somehow not really traitorous and is really fighting for the Imperium. They are not. They are Chaos Space Marines through and through. A lot of people got confused by one of the Horus Heresy books, which somehow made them forget or ignore all the official Chaos background of the past editions.

[Octavulg]

This really would make a lot more sense in the LIber Astartes subforum, which is all about making DIY Chapters. It has a lot of different guides on making DIY Chapters, resources, that sort of thing, not to mention the people who hang around there.

 

And there's also the Octaguide, linked in my signature.

 

EDIT: Oh, and orange is the contrasting color to blue. Complementary colors to blue are green and purple, IIRC.

[The Normish]

And there's also the Octaguide, linked in my signature.

Shamelessly promoting your brilliant material there, Octavulg? Although I admit, it is a good read.

 

I agree, the best place for this is the DIY forum.

I like the idea as well. The orange/dark blue would work quite well as some sort of symbolic representation of the Ultramarines/Alpha Legion rivalry. But if your going to be a Codex-adherent Chapter as rigid as your parent Chapter, then you should probably use the Company-colors shoulder trim method. The Orange, could of course be used on the knees and eagles, and even for your Chapter symbol.

[Legatus]

EDIT: Oh, and orange is the contrasting color to blue. Complementary colors to blue are green and purple, IIRC.

Contrasting colours are more or less all colours from the other half of the color wheel, mostly all cold colours compared to a warm color. The complementary color is the one directly opposite of a color.

[Octavulg]

The Normish:

Shamelessly promoting your brilliant material there, Octavulg? Although I admit, it is a good read.

 

I'm sorry, I didn't quite catch that...

 

Say brilliant a little louder, please?

 

Legatus:

 

Contrasting colours are more or less all colours from the other half of the color wheel, mostly all cold colours compared to a warm color. The complementary color is the one directly opposite of a color.

 

Huh. Fair enough.