Bjorn felhanded conversion

[earthpig23]

WIP of converting the assault on black reach dreadnought into Bjorn the fellhanded. taking various bits I have from spacewolves packs. I use the hot salt method to bend the wolf pelt and accidently melted the nose so had to resculpt one. its not the best but will work for a beginner like me. I used procreate (grey) and green stuff to help smoth and sculpt.

 

 

How it started as a black reach kit

 

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v446/earthpig28/BRdreadnought.png

 

 

WIP Phase one: added some SW gear and pelts

 

 

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v446/earthpig28/bjorn1.jpg

 

 

 

WIP phase two:Added two the close combat arm to make it look more like the Bjorn reference picture im using. also scraped off old sarcophogas, and added SW iconography

 

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v446/earthpig28/bjorn2-Copy.jpg

[Anpu42]

The only problem I see is Bjron does not use a Multi-Melta :P

[Sharpsilver]

My only criticisms, apart from these, it looks excellent :P

 

The Storm shield on the leg looks a bit perculier and doesn't really 'fit' there I don't think.

The fell-hand/claw needs to be a bit longer since it's larger than a regular power claw. I saw you started to green stuff some parts which means you could possibly do that! :)

Replace the Multi-Melta with a Plasma Cannon.

[Wispy]

I'm sorry to be honest, but it's kind of sloppy. The pelt is just splayed on there.

[earthpig23]

The only problem I see is Bjron does not use a Multi-Melta :P

 

yes ordering a plasma cannon and assault cannon for him. the arms are magnetic so interchangable. but the black reach dread only came with a multi-melta

 

 

My only criticisms, apart from these, it looks excellent :cuss

 

The Storm shield on the leg looks a bit perculier and doesn't really 'fit' there I don't think.

The fell-hand/claw needs to be a bit longer since it's larger than a regular power claw. I saw you started to green stuff some parts which means you could possibly do that! :)

Replace the Multi-Melta with a Plasma Cannon.

 

 

ok. I actually had them longer but thought they may be too longer. I will work on a new and improved claw and will switch it out.

 

about the storm shield I added it cause I thought the leg looked week but now that you mention it it seems unbalanced with just the one on the one side.

 

thanks

 

I'm sorry to be honest, but it's kind of sloppy. The pelt is just splayed on there.

 

yes its not the best work but for a beginner id say decent enough. yes I agree about the pelt actually but it was the first thing I ever put together, and will redo a better one when my sculpting abilities increase a bit.

[Vassakov]

Whilst I can see where some of my brothers are coming from, any criticism made should be constructive. With this in mind:

 

The whole upper body doesn't quite work. The Wolf Totem on the left, whilst I suspect intended to compliament the Wolf Pelt on the right appears from the picture to be slanted and has the unfortunate effect of making the entire body look unbalanced. It also breaks the symetry of the body shape break, which looks odd. This is very easily fixed though, simply remount it in the centre of the body thus preserving the aesthetic of the overall shape.

 

The pelt... well, I can see where you were going but there are two big problems - the first, it appears to be floating which immediately makes it look wrong. The second is the fact that the forelimbs are way to short in relation to the head making the whole thing look very odd. again, it's a fairly simple fix - you might have to take it appart, then cut the back of the pelt down a bit so you can get it flush to the body, then fill gaps with GS to sort that out. The legs could really do with being extended with GS, the sculpting is relatively simple to do though.

 

Finally, the Storm Shield on the shinguard is just too big, both in relation to the leg and the Dreadnought as a whole. If you can scrap it easily, I'd recommend it.

 

Criticism aside, I like the rest of it. The claw is a nice interpretation, and the little Wolfy icons such as the tails and the Plate on the front of the Dread work well, as does the Skull on the weapon arm. It's got a lot of potential, I just think you need to touch a couple of bits up to really make the model!

[earthpig23]

Whilst I can see where some of my brothers are coming from, any criticism made should be constructive. With this in mind:

 

The whole upper body doesn't quite work. The Wolf Totem on the left, whilst I suspect intended to compliament the Wolf Pelt on the right appears from the picture to be slanted and has the unfortunate effect of making the entire body look unbalanced. It also breaks the symetry of the body shape break, which looks odd. This is very easily fixed though, simply remount it in the centre of the body thus preserving the aesthetic of the overall shape.

 

The pelt... well, I can see where you were going but there are two big problems - the first, it appears to be floating which immediately makes it look wrong. The second is the fact that the forelimbs are way to short in relation to the head making the whole thing look very odd. again, it's a fairly simple fix - you might have to take it appart, then cut the back of the pelt down a bit so you can get it flush to the body, then fill gaps with GS to sort that out. The legs could really do with being extended with GS, the sculpting is relatively simple to do though.

 

Finally, the Storm Shield on the shinguard is just too big, both in relation to the leg and the Dreadnought as a whole. If you can scrap it easily, I'd recommend it.

 

Criticism aside, I like the rest of it. The claw is a nice interpretation, and the little Wolfy icons such as the tails and the Plate on the front of the Dread work well, as does the Skull on the weapon arm. It's got a lot of potential, I just think you need to touch a couple of bits up to really make the model!

 

 

thank you this is the kind of critique that helps out alot. I will def. take this into consideration and do some reworks

[chino]

I like the idea of the storm shield, and I did the same thing on my Dreadnoughts. You might want to try the Terminator stormshield, which I assume you have as that pelt looks like the cloak from the Terminator box set. As for the pelt, you could try this. Cut the paws off and extends the limbs with greenstuff, as sculpting fur is pretty simple. This way you can drape then any way you like and attach the paws onto the limbs and mold greenstuff over it to blend it. Overall though, good effort on taking a 4 piece Vanilla model and wolfing it up.

[earthpig23]

I like the idea of the storm shield, and I did the same thing on my Dreadnoughts. You might want to try the Terminator stormshield, which I assume you have as that pelt looks like the cloak from the Terminator box set. As for the pelt, you could try this. Cut the paws off and extends the limbs with greenstuff, as sculpting fur is pretty simple. This way you can drape then any way you like and attach the paws onto the limbs and mold greenstuff over it to blend it. Overall though, good effort on taking a 4 piece Vanilla model and wolfing it up.

 

thanks, I am going to rework the pelt over the next couple days. I liked the idea of the storm shield too it just as was pointed out a little "off" Ill dig around my termies bits and see if I can find something a bit smaller an makes less of an eye sore.

[Beef]

As for the multi melta I am sure Bjorn was arrayed with a vast weapon load out in all his extensive time. I agree about the storm shield being to big

[earthpig23]

ok well i may have been over zealous when gluing on the shield and now may not be able to remove it without damage. SO I may have to just puteven it out by putting one on the other side so its not so noticebly larger. Still hoping to slowly work the shield off.

 

I did take apart the wolf pelt and glued in section will fill with green stuff and sculpt for a more draping effect and took off the wolf talisman.

 

should have the update with some corrections by this weekend.

 

I do agree that im sure as a dread even a famous one who is outfitted with many weapons which is why I am going magnets so can switch out depending on battle he will be involved in.

 

This one is my fun experimental dread. I have a forgeworld SW dread as well taht I am going to wait till my painting skills reach a much higher level to do the model justice.

 

 

I see that in some pics of Bjorn he has a banner, should I add one or would it just make things to "busy"?

[chino]

Looking forward to the update.

 

As far as the banner is concerned, I've done so on my Bjorn conversion using the new Ven Dread kit and I was really pleased with the results. I even sculpted a wolf pelt in the same area as yours was done. The only issue would be the AOBR Dread's dimensions. Its actually slightly shorter, making it also look a bit wider in comparison to the regular Dreads. The banner would add another dimension of height, but I think it would have the opposite effect visually.

 

You might want to try clipping away at the shield and filing it down until you can fit a more narrow shield on the leg plate. Or if you're handy with a knife and greenstuff, you could cut the sides off and scuplt proper edges on it. If there is no way to get it off, trying painting the free leg plate a brighter colour than the rest of his armour.

[Xeenos]

Id center that banner pole there above his head. Take the pelt and break it apart again. It looks like you tried to put a pelt togeather from a few parts.. take like a arm/claw and hang it from one spot, hang another somewhere else. Put the head right atop his face area, that will look awesome. Basicly spreading out the wolf fur texture and color that it adds. If they look a little broken up or something, dont worry about it, just paint it. Its a friggen wolves pelt, these things fall apart with time. It makes sence to be in parts. Hell if its supposed to be a pelt he earned while alive then it would be pritty damned old and thus in pritty poor shape, which would explain why its hooked to his armor in a dozen places!

 

The shield on the leg is to big, rip it off. Damage you say? So what! Paint it up with the damage and make it stand out. He took a crack missile to the leg armor, or something. No biggy! Dont worry about it causing a little damage or leaving an odd glue texture. If it does, just run with it.

 

A few things to add to it. Bjorn has a smoke launcher, you might throw that on there, maybe you can find a way to make the wolf head fit with something to work as smoke so it comes out of the wolves mouth? I dont know. He also needs to have a heavy flamer put on there, so cut off the Storm Bolter and dig a flamer or two out of your bits. You can take two, perhaps, trim the sides so you can glue them togeather so it looks like a duel flamer or something, cut off the handel and gas can and glue them upsidown to the arm. If you can maybe run some line from them to something that looks like a gas tank, if not dont worry. You might even save the cut off gas tanks to apply somewhere to act as the fuel. But its really not that big of a deal.

 

Oh and give us a side shot so we can see the length on thouse claws!

[earthpig23]

Id center that banner pole there above his head. Take the pelt and break it apart again. It looks like you tried to put a pelt togeather from a few parts.. take like a arm/claw and hang it from one spot, hang another somewhere else. Put the head right atop his face area, that will look awesome. Basicly spreading out the wolf fur texture and color that it adds. If they look a little broken up or something, dont worry about it, just paint it. Its a friggen wolves pelt, these things fall apart with time. It makes sence to be in parts. Hell if its supposed to be a pelt he earned while alive then it would be pritty damned old and thus in pritty poor shape, which would explain why its hooked to his armor in a dozen places!

 

The shield on the leg is to big, rip it off. Damage you say? So what! Paint it up with the damage and make it stand out. He took a crack missile to the leg armor, or something. No biggy! Dont worry about it causing a little damage or leaving an odd glue texture. If it does, just run with it.

 

A few things to add to it. Bjorn has a smoke launcher, you might throw that on there, maybe you can find a way to make the wolf head fit with something to work as smoke so it comes out of the wolves mouth? I dont know. He also needs to have a heavy flamer put on there, so cut off the Storm Bolter and dig a flamer or two out of your bits. You can take two, perhaps, trim the sides so you can glue them togeather so it looks like a duel flamer or something, cut off the handel and gas can and glue them upsidown to the arm. If you can maybe run some line from them to something that looks like a gas tank, if not dont worry. You might even save the cut off gas tanks to apply somewhere to act as the fuel. But its really not that big of a deal.

 

Oh and give us a side shot so we can see the length on thouse claws!

 

 

OK really worked on taking some of the suggestions and did lots of work the last couple days

 

I redid the wolf pelt I made it drape by cut pieces and then using procreate to fill in gaps and it turned out decent enough. better than the floating pelt.

 

I finally got the storm shield off and not much damage just a little battle scarring is all will look good once painted.

 

I also cut off the storm bolter and replaced it with a flamer. this took alot off work and rework to turn the only heavy flamer I had (from a space wolf terminator) and turning it into a flamer that didnt look huge and out of place. but I got it to work and even have tanks and hose.

 

I did not have a smoke launcher AOBR did not come with one. so I took some bits and plastic and procreate and made a scratch built smoke launcher. it will definitly do the trick

 

I will finish up smoothing out some rough edges and gaps and will get a pics up this weekends of front back and sides

 

thanks everyone for the helpful suggestions.

[earthpig23]

Here is the latest update on my Bjorn WIP.

 

Redid pelt, added flamer and smoke launcher. Banner is being used but im not sure if this is the banner im using or not. took off storm shield

 

front

 

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v446/earthpig28/bjorn12.jpg

 

side

 

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v446/earthpig28/bjorn22.jpg

 

Back

 

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v446/earthpig28/bjorn3.jpg

[Vassakov]

Now that. That is quite a nice model.

 

Well done!

[TeamLando]

Nice conversion brother! I see that you're converting the Black Reach Dread, cool stuff, I'm doing that myself atm, not into Bjorn tho!

I removed that skull on his right shoulder, it doesn't feel very space wolf, one can do that with a damn sharp knife, just peel it off, real easy :D

Maybe I'll post a pic of my dread when it's done ey.

[earthpig23]

Nice conversion brother! I see that you're converting the Black Reach Dread, cool stuff, I'm doing that myself atm, not into Bjorn tho!

I removed that skull on his right shoulder, it doesn't feel very space wolf, one can do that with a damn sharp knife, just peel it off, real easy :lol:

Maybe I'll post a pic of my dread when it's done ey.

 

 

YEs please post when finished man. BElieve it or not im a big fan of your diaramas the battles scene and kraken. I had no idea you were on B&C. I actually saved them on my comp last month for some ideas.

 

SO just for you I went and carved up a totem and took the wolf tooth skull and replaced the old one with it. it all off and just writing what major campaigns he has been it.

 

I like the cross and skull but didnt like the skull. but I am also thinking maybe peeling

 

Thanks for the compliment

 

 

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v446/earthpig28/bjornnewskull-1.jpg

[TeamLando]

YEs please post when finished man. BElieve it or not im a big fan of your diaramas the battles scene and kraken. I had no idea you were on B&C. I actually saved them on my comp last month for some ideas.

 

SO just for you I went and carved up a totem and took the wolf tooth skull and replaced the old one with it. it all off and just writing what major campaigns he has been it.

 

I like the cross and skull but didnt like the skull. but I am also thinking maybe peeling

 

Thanks for the compliment

 

 

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v446/earthpig28/bjornnewskull-1.jpg

 

Haha, a fan eh, nice to hear that xD Good to know that the old dioramas can still inspire people :lol: Some new things coming up over att my account on coolmini in a week or two, so keep your eyes open for that ;)

The new skull looks way better imo, nice conversion, adds bit o charcater to that cross. No need to peel it when you've fixed it like that :)

 

I'll post some pics of the dread when it's close to completion.. atm I've just painted the arms xD

 

Oh, and if you liked the kraken but haven't seen me on B&C, you should prolly check out the old WIP thread:

http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/index.p...=kraken+diorama Pretty funny facts and some interesting WIP-pictures in there :]

[earthpig23]

OK here we go.

 

It took awhile had lots of projects to do and my vow to complete. So moved onto the my Bjorn and finally got the paint job completed. Not bad for my first ever dread.The arms are magnets so will be switching out the flamer as soon as my new arms getting here.

 

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v446/earthpig28/BJORN.jpg

 

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v446/earthpig28/BjornL.jpg

 

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v446/earthpig28/BjornR.jpg

 

ANd a close up wish you could see the blending better. I took a long time with it and used alot of techniques I learned from watching a butt load of tutorials and how to DVDs. I am pretty happy with gow it worked out.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v446/earthpig28/Bjorntop.jpg

[Aramis_the_Red]

I must say, pre-paint, I really had some doubts. But I gotta say, that's a spiffy model sir.

[dswanick]

Repositioning the banner and adding the Smoke Launcher helped balance out the Pelt nicely. It's coming along very nicely, congrats.

[JMac]

Now I know I am a little late considering the model is painted and all (by the way, great work and re-work to make a good looking model!).

 

However, I really liked the idea of the storm shield, but I agree that it looked out of place and too big. The idea of it though was a great one. It represents his 5++ save that no other (to my knowledge) vehicle has.

 

Maybe we could find a new place for it to make it look more fitting. Perhaps attached to one of his arms, his left one would be ideal IMO as I see him shooting while advancing forward with his shield up.

 

Anyone have other thoughts on this or ideas to make it work?

[dublindawg]

I love the progression of your conversion. I can see where you really took the comments to heart and the end result is a splended model. My only critique is the banner....the coloring of the wolf on the banner causes it not to stand out that much and looks a lil lost in the red. Maybe a more dominate color to contrast the red would help it stand out a bit more.

[earthpig23]

I love the progression of your conversion. I can see where you really took the comments to heart and the end result is a splended model. My only critique is the banner....the coloring of the wolf on the banner causes it not to stand out that much and looks a lil lost in the red. Maybe a more dominate color to contrast the red would help it stand out a bit more.

 

 

I see what you mean and may have to see what I can do.Also the pic lighten up the red a bit much

here is a better pic

 

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v446/earthpig28/DSCF7486.jpg

 

 

 

Thanks all for the comments. this was my first major conversion piece and I am pretty happy overall with how it turned out.

 

I am still thinking of how to work storm shields into my next dread