Ravendove Posted November 29, 2010 Author Share Posted November 29, 2010 Hello again! So at last I'm at a point where I've been able to unpack all my stuff. Sorry it's been such a long wait. Our flat is very small so in order to keep things smooth, my hobby time is when my girlfriend is at work. You guys with partners out there, I'm sure you understand. I've been spending a bit of time deciding on army list composition and wanted to share some thoughts with you. I would love suggestions and tips, if you have any. Sicarius is a wonderful model and I'm determined to use him; either as a Captain w/ Relic Blade and stuff or as Sicarius himself. I've also decided on an army 'core' I want to keep. I also have all the following bits already purchased and waiting to be assembled/painted. This 'core' makes up 1000pts exactly: Sicarius @ 200 Tactical Squad A (Combi-Melta, Meltagun, Missile Launcher) in Rhino @ 220 Tactical Squad B (Combi-Melta, Meltagun, Lascannon) in Rhino @ 230 2 x Land Speeders (Heavy Bolter, Typhoon Missile Launcher) @ 180 2 x Predators (Autocannon, Heavy Bolters) @ 170 The idea is to have a flexible, well-rounded force that ticks all the boxes. I've got mechanised troops that can combat squad for objectives, long range firepower to take down transports, anti-infantry firepower at long ranges and Melta for any AV14. Sicarius is there to plug any gaps, being quite decent at CC, character killing and field control depending on situation (S10 Lascannon, Infiltrating Meltas, etc). That said, a Librarian is sorely missed. For small games, this will be fine. But I mainly play 1500 or 1750, so I would ideally like another 500pt 'chunk' to add on - but I'm stuck on what to add. A couple of mounted Sternguard Squads? Land Raider with Terminators? Two (or three?) Ironclads? What is the army missing? Suggestions? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212123-sons-of-orar-blog/page/4/#findComment-2575146 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaplain belisarius Posted November 29, 2010 Share Posted November 29, 2010 nice list! personally id try and take some more antitank but thats just me...;) maybe get some sternguard and a dread in a pod? cant wait to see this lot painted up! maybe take a librarian instead of sicarius? saves you some points (lascannon preds? vindicators? i like long range anti tank..) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212123-sons-of-orar-blog/page/4/#findComment-2575314 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivestar Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 I like the list as a core, but i'm not sure where Sicarus would go. Maybe make the Rhino for the Tact Squad with lascannon into a razorback? Put Sicarus with a combat squad in the razorback and leave the lascannon behind (you would have to drop the combi melta out for something like Meltabombs though)? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212123-sons-of-orar-blog/page/4/#findComment-2576018 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaplain belisarius Posted November 30, 2010 Share Posted November 30, 2010 Thats a great list! ive borrowed it myself (but i took a librarian and 2 melta attack bikes instead of sicarius, gave my tacs lascannon and meltagun) cant wait to see more of your excellent models!:huh: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212123-sons-of-orar-blog/page/4/#findComment-2576355 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly_bear Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 Great minitures, I curse joining this forum cause I see so many great looking coloured chapters and wanna teat painting a squad or two of my own. Lol Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212123-sons-of-orar-blog/page/4/#findComment-2577076 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwarfkernow Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 Great looking army, looking forward to seeing more. Thanks for sharing dice.uk i might get a set for my ultramarines as the current set of dice only seems to stop on 4+ (lots of dead smerfs). ;) Are you going to include a squad of termies as shields and halberds would look sweet. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212123-sons-of-orar-blog/page/4/#findComment-2578096 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravendove Posted December 2, 2010 Author Share Posted December 2, 2010 Are you going to include a squad of termies as shields and halberds would look sweet. If I get round to doing Terminators, they will definitely be equipped with suitable Dory and Aspis to represent SS/TH. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212123-sons-of-orar-blog/page/4/#findComment-2578179 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaplain belisarius Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 cant wait to see more of your army! :D (slightly off topic-thats a nice list...mind if i use it?) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212123-sons-of-orar-blog/page/4/#findComment-2578439 Share on other sites More sharing options...
augustmanifesto Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 what recipe do you use for your skin / faces? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212123-sons-of-orar-blog/page/4/#findComment-2588734 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaplain belisarius Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 very nice...any more stuff done? :huh: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212123-sons-of-orar-blog/page/4/#findComment-2590115 Share on other sites More sharing options...
the sanguinor Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 dude...i love this army. nice to see such clean painting.. im waiting for christmas to be over so i can restart my howling griffons and you are providing much inspiration. keep up the good work!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212123-sons-of-orar-blog/page/4/#findComment-2590386 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravendove Posted January 5, 2011 Author Share Posted January 5, 2011 Update See, didn't I warn you this blog would be slow? A couple of months ago, the only FLGS in the area closed down, so my hobby enthusiasm disappeared altogether for a while. However, with Christmas done and dusted, I'm back and in business with some new toys to play with. I was planning to buy the Citadel Painting Station in order to keep mess to a minimum (and the cleaning beast at bay), but I spotted this beauty instead in the shop today: http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5090/5327541918_3e2d036714_z.jpg Done. I suppose this is where I would show a picture of my pet too, but I don't have one. Instead, here's a picture of my girlfriend, suitably impressed with the mountain of plastic I purchased and just 'had' to bring with me: http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5086/5326935679_513f80fdf5_z.jpg Yup, that's two Predators, one Razorback, one Land Speeder and a Venerable Dreadnought. I'll be starting with the Dread, because I've never made one before. Updates on the build will follow tomorrow. cant wait to see more of your army! :) (slightly off topic-thats a nice list...mind if i use it?) Er, of course, go right ahead. what recipe do you use for your skin / faces? Good question, I can't quite remember. I'm pretty sure it's: 1. White undercoat 2. Tallarn Flesh basecoat 3. Ogryn Flesh wash 4. Tallarn Flesh, leaving recesses 5. Highlights with 50/50 Tallarn/Elf Flesh 6. Final highlights with Elf Flesh very nice...any more stuff done? :) Check back tomorrow! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212123-sons-of-orar-blog/page/4/#findComment-2607434 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaplain belisarius Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 ooh! nice pics! cant wait to see those bad boys painted! :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212123-sons-of-orar-blog/page/4/#findComment-2607540 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravendove Posted January 6, 2011 Author Share Posted January 6, 2011 So like all models in this army, after assembling the main components, I separate the pieces depending on the undercoat required. I primarily do this because I'm lazy, secondly because white areas just look better with a white undercoat rather than layer after layer of grey. Here we have the red, black and white piles respectively. Legs, torso base and weapons are in black; arm shoulder plates, knee guard and head are white; everything else is in red. You can see some FW Brassed Etch icons on some of the white pieces (Orar symbol traditionally sits red-on-white) and this replicates the style of the infantry shoulder pads and Rhino doors. Other iconography and details such as scrolls and purity seals gets added last. Again, like the infantry, I paint the head separately mounted on a cork. It's just easier. Before and after: http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5082/5330444518_ec94c9270b_z.jpg http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5169/5329836361_9a3d2dc5a9_z.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212123-sons-of-orar-blog/page/4/#findComment-2608570 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaplain belisarius Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 cant wait to see the finished model! :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212123-sons-of-orar-blog/page/4/#findComment-2608707 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravendove Posted January 11, 2011 Author Share Posted January 11, 2011 Dreadnought Update So the Dreadnought is basically done. If you haven't built a Venerable Dreadnought before, the way they did the weapons is very clever. You choose your 'shoulder' style (choice of three), then the different weapons just slot into it and stay there. So I've painted up an Assault Cannon for now, until I get my hands on some spare Autocannons and build my own weapon arm to 'plug in'. I've still got detailing to do. That is; decals, purity seals, scroll text, liquid resin ("water effects") for the lenses and gems, and so on. Anyway, picture time: http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5209/5345578973_c95e64cb1b_z.jpg http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5047/5346187750_bfa9d9c62b_z.jpg http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5285/5345573415_0126f3045f_z.jpg I'm not quite sure what to put on the weapon shoulder plate. On a Tactical Marine, that's where the Tactical Arrow would go, but there's no suitable red decal available. Here's the base the big guy will be standing on. Standard Dreadnought base with some sand and plastic Cacti from Pegasus Hobbies. I'm going to Amsterdam for a couple of days, so we'll tackle that bad boy when I get back. http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5285/5346191108_3f48a67c2c_z.jpg If anyone has links available to nice looking desert bases, with colours used, that would be awesome. I decided to re-base the Tactical Squad because I'm unhappy with the look of the magnetic bases. Yes internet, you were right. 'Desert' is a tricky style to get right - it's easy to make it look too yellow or too brown. Cheerio. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212123-sons-of-orar-blog/page/4/#findComment-2613365 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingsOfTheFalcon Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 Great job on the Dreadnought, I really love the Venerable kit! Are you going to do anything inside the arches on the front torso plates? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212123-sons-of-orar-blog/page/4/#findComment-2613385 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravendove Posted January 11, 2011 Author Share Posted January 11, 2011 Are you going to do anything inside the arches on the front torso plates? No, probably not. My free-hand isn't that great (hence the use of decals and brass etch). I'm adding a couple of light washes of Devlan Mud inside the arches though, to darken them a little and break up the large red blocks some. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212123-sons-of-orar-blog/page/4/#findComment-2613424 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravendove Posted January 11, 2011 Author Share Posted January 11, 2011 Dreadnought Done! For additional details, I have added a red Crux Terminatus symbol to his right shoulder plate, two purity seals and a large IV decal on the top armour. It should be obvious, but if it's not, yes I am putting together a 4th Company force. I've placed him on the base too, so you can see how he stands. I call this the "come get some" pose. http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5009/5346505206_176d723fa4_z.jpg http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5246/5346494966_7b6da619fc_z.jpg http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5001/5345891617_feeb3b502a_z.jpg http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5281/5345889191_9283813153_z.jpg http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5290/5345886525_36534a0ca7_z.jpg http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5010/5346507968_ba81aa0b7a_z.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212123-sons-of-orar-blog/page/4/#findComment-2613500 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legio Draconis Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 I really like the new dred. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212123-sons-of-orar-blog/page/4/#findComment-2613521 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaplain belisarius Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 wow! that is beautiful...:lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212123-sons-of-orar-blog/page/4/#findComment-2613545 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawk Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 It looks very nice! Has clean lines and colors; good use of the Ultramarines brass too. Heh, "Come get some!" However... You drilled out the heavy flamer barrel but not the assault cannon barrels? Also, the plants could use the same shade your purity seal has, as right now they look a bit too neon (unless you wanted the alien plant look). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212123-sons-of-orar-blog/page/4/#findComment-2613569 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravendove Posted January 11, 2011 Author Share Posted January 11, 2011 It looks very nice! Has clean lines and colors; good use of the Ultramarines brass too. Heh, "Come get some!" However... You drilled out the heavy flamer barrel but not the assault cannon barrels? Also, the plants could use the same shade your purity seal has, as right now they look a bit too neon (unless you wanted the alien plant look). Good spot on the barrels, it completely slipped my mind. I should also point out that the base is unpainted... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212123-sons-of-orar-blog/page/4/#findComment-2613582 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_son_of_Dorn Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 anyone else think he just looks totally nautral and at home (and even more perfect if possible) on that base? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212123-sons-of-orar-blog/page/4/#findComment-2613596 Share on other sites More sharing options...
batu Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 If anyone has links available to nice looking desert bases, with colours used, that would be awesome. I decided to re-base the Tactical Squad because I'm unhappy with the look of the magnetic bases. Yes internet, you were right. 'Desert' is a tricky style to get right - it's easy to make it look too yellow or too brown. Cheerio. I liked the colour of your bases, the magnet thing wasnt that nice. The dread is very cool. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212123-sons-of-orar-blog/page/4/#findComment-2613600 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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