lothbrok Posted September 30, 2010 Share Posted September 30, 2010 i'm fully aware of the blasphemy inherent in this topic but i have to ask. how do you kill thunderwolves with sw short of massed vindicators. the reason i ask is becuase i challenged a fellow wolf player to a grudge match and he always hearls excessive numbers of thunderwolves and at 3000 points i'm looking at a lot of fluffy fury. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212256-how-do-i-kill-my-opponents-thunderwolves/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
muadib02 Posted September 30, 2010 Share Posted September 30, 2010 Shoot them enough with anything. He can have max 22 Thunderwolf models between Lords, Iron Priests and TWC. You can put down 15 Missile Launchers as a counter, as well as plasma guns, melta guns, and a ridiculous amount of boltgun fire. Toss down some razorbacks and you have another few heavy bolters, assault cannons or whatever you wish. Dreadnoughts also work very well, as STR 10 still insta kills them in close combat. Rune priests can be really annoying, with either Jaws or Murderous hurricaine. Land speeders with either assault cannons or missile launchers would also do the trick. Terminators can stand up to their assaults and fight back, usually ripping a fair hole in them, and allowing a few more missile launchers. The only other advice i can toss out is to play to the mission. With enough bodies on the table you can actually shrug off alot more than you think. at 2500 points I have 96 models in PA or Scout Armour and a Dreadnought kicking around. It takes alot to kill all of that, especially while its trying to killyou. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212256-how-do-i-kill-my-opponents-thunderwolves/#findComment-2524672 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted September 30, 2010 Share Posted September 30, 2010 At 3k? What are your force restrictions? Using any apocalypse rules? There can be alot of options that level, but if its just one FOC your going to be in for a hard time. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212256-how-do-i-kill-my-opponents-thunderwolves/#findComment-2524699 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Thirst Posted September 30, 2010 Share Posted September 30, 2010 perhaps take the exact same amount of TWC as him equip them the same then its just down to the luck of the dice! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212256-how-do-i-kill-my-opponents-thunderwolves/#findComment-2524781 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zynk Kaladin Posted September 30, 2010 Share Posted September 30, 2010 At 3k I'd say 9 typhoons. 18 missiles and 27 heavy bolter shots at only 810 points! :lol: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212256-how-do-i-kill-my-opponents-thunderwolves/#findComment-2524794 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wysten Posted September 30, 2010 Share Posted September 30, 2010 Do exactly the same? XD Probably most seriously, you would probably mass as many Long Fangs and Land Speeders with missles as possible, and either mass your own rock (Either some thunder wolf of your own to counter him once he gets locked in combat, or wolf guard with Logan tooled up with a mix of stormshields, combiweapons, claws and hammers in termie armour to sit behind your defensive line to charge into him once he hits the grey hunter wall). or mass enough guys that you can unload your guys in bolter range and let rip with so many bolter shots, that wounds start getting through and have a few wolf guard to try and desprately kill them when they do reach close combat, just pile in. Basically, either be even more offensive then him, or be prepaired to take the charge then hit him with everything you have. Enough Long Fangs and Typoohns force him to come up close, where you can wash him away with a solid counter attack via massed bolters and your smaller rock to wear him out. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212256-how-do-i-kill-my-opponents-thunderwolves/#findComment-2524984 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKAwolf Posted September 30, 2010 Share Posted September 30, 2010 Ragnar Ulrik 8 PA Wolf Guard with pistol and power weps + one Arjac Rockfist in a Land Raider Redeamer 31A base +(10xD3) on the charge with power weps that reroll hits AND wounds followed by 5-7 S10 from Arjac is Fearless and Stubbern that can sneak in a Furious Charge all for under 1100 points...... how could you lose? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212256-how-do-i-kill-my-opponents-thunderwolves/#findComment-2525052 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lothbrok Posted September 30, 2010 Author Share Posted September 30, 2010 i wa sort of thinking a buch of termies in landraiders and enough long fangs to drop a titan. i'll try and have a sample list up sometime tonight or tommorrow. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212256-how-do-i-kill-my-opponents-thunderwolves/#findComment-2525393 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitsune106 Posted September 30, 2010 Share Posted September 30, 2010 WEll, not so sure. maybe try to shoot them down before they get too close? but the long fangs with mls, or plasma cannons sounds like a good idea. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212256-how-do-i-kill-my-opponents-thunderwolves/#findComment-2525410 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wispy Posted September 30, 2010 Share Posted September 30, 2010 3 Vindicators, certainly. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212256-how-do-i-kill-my-opponents-thunderwolves/#findComment-2525466 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wysten Posted September 30, 2010 Share Posted September 30, 2010 A leman russ excutioner, after dropping 3 Plasma templates on the poor guy, those thunderwolves don't look so hard. Pity theres no more Russ. XD Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212256-how-do-i-kill-my-opponents-thunderwolves/#findComment-2525477 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted September 30, 2010 Share Posted September 30, 2010 A leman russ excutioner, after dropping 3 Plasma templates on the poor guy, those thunderwolves don't look so hard. Pity theres no more Russ. XD Sure you mean 5 ^_^. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212256-how-do-i-kill-my-opponents-thunderwolves/#findComment-2525495 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wysten Posted September 30, 2010 Share Posted September 30, 2010 I borrowed the imperial codex to have a look, it is actually 3 blasts. Did it used to be 5? In that case, you don't need anti infantry, just lots of anti tank and lots of Russ excutioners. Since they would scatter so much that everything around it would die. XD Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212256-how-do-i-kill-my-opponents-thunderwolves/#findComment-2525508 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted October 1, 2010 Share Posted October 1, 2010 I borrowed the imperial codex to have a look, it is actually 3 blasts. Did it used to be 5? In that case, you don't need anti infantry, just lots of anti tank and lots of Russ excutioners. Since they would scatter so much that everything around it would die. XD No, but it can have two plasmacannon sponsons- atleast one of wich can fire on the move. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212256-how-do-i-kill-my-opponents-thunderwolves/#findComment-2525564 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wysten Posted October 1, 2010 Share Posted October 1, 2010 I borrowed the imperial codex to have a look, it is actually 3 blasts. Did it used to be 5? In that case, you don't need anti infantry, just lots of anti tank and lots of Russ excutioners. Since they would scatter so much that everything around it would die. XD No, but it can have two plasmacannon sponsons- atleast one of wich can fire on the move. True enough, I actually forgot it would take them, though it makes sense, if only to allot a destoryed result to one of them. Just I made a list with two of these guys in to pass some time, perhaps I need to cut back on the good stuff a little. XD Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212256-how-do-i-kill-my-opponents-thunderwolves/#findComment-2525698 Share on other sites More sharing options...
asmodai650 Posted October 1, 2010 Share Posted October 1, 2010 i'm fully aware of the blasphemy inherent in this topic but i have to ask. how do you kill thunderwolves with sw short of massed vindicators. the reason i ask is becuase i challenged a fellow wolf player to a grudge match and he always hearls excessive numbers of thunderwolves and at 3000 points i'm looking at a lot of fluffy fury. My usual weekly opponent and I both play space wolves, and he also runs 2 packs of wolves. We usually play at 3000 pts. He runs them in two groups of two with one power fist /storm shield and ccw / storm shield. Attached to them is a wolf lord with wolf claws and belt of russ, with different sagas each. This combo is deadly effective. I have dropped my entire armies worth of fire power into them and still did not completely take them out. Only advice I can offer is shoot them at range, try to use a dread as a counter assualt, and above all else play the mission and hope we cant take you out before the end of the game! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212256-how-do-i-kill-my-opponents-thunderwolves/#findComment-2525834 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lothbrok Posted October 1, 2010 Author Share Posted October 1, 2010 i was thinking a list something like this ragnar ulrik landraider crusader wgx7 tda fbx4 th combi-meltax2 ssx4 wcx2 long fangs 3 missile luanchers 2 lasscannon razorback rwin assualt cannon longfangs 5 heavy bolters predator twin lass heavy bolter sponson 3xgrey huntersx10 pw mow ws 2xmelta plasm pistol rhino hunterkiller grey huntersx10 pw mow ws meltax2 drop pod deathwind 2xven dread wtn wtt multi melta drop pod deathwind the plan was to drop in the dreads and attempt to neutralize his vindicators (1 or 2 of those) and then pump everything else into his thunderwolves before rushing ragnar ulrik and the wolfguard in to hopefully annihilate anything they touch in close combat while using the grey hunters to seize objectives or sluaghther their counterparts. criticism is more than welcome Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212256-how-do-i-kill-my-opponents-thunderwolves/#findComment-2526226 Share on other sites More sharing options...
asmodai650 Posted October 2, 2010 Share Posted October 2, 2010 I would try to get tw lascannons on those dreads to make sure that you hit those vindicators. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212256-how-do-i-kill-my-opponents-thunderwolves/#findComment-2526748 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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