Ash Tekka Posted September 30, 2010 Share Posted September 30, 2010 I want to start working on my vehicles and was wondering if anyone knows of a color similar to adeptus battle grey that I can use for my base coat? I'm looking for a spray paint, I'm thinking testors might make something that looks similar? Anyon have any experience or advice they wish to share? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212315-other-companies-similar-to-adeptus-battle-grey/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaveriK Posted September 30, 2010 Share Posted September 30, 2010 keep in mind, some of those paints you seek might be thicker and might eat plastic! wouldn't hurt you to take look at places like, home depot for a can of spray similar looking to adeptus battle grey. Just remember, the ones GW or other wargame companies use are meant for the tiny and detailed miniatures. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212315-other-companies-similar-to-adeptus-battle-grey/#findComment-2525408 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chino Posted September 30, 2010 Share Posted September 30, 2010 Krylon makes an indoor/outdoor primer that I use for all of my vehicles. I just gave my vehicles a really watered down black wash after priming - not badab black but about 7:1 water to Chaos Black. The primer itself is inbetween Codex Grey and Adeptus Battle Grey. You have to work a bit faster with the wash though, as one it pools and dries it leaves a big nasty ring of ugly on your basecoat, so don't slop on the wash. Hope this helps. Army Painter also produces a primer similar to Krylon's. Its a bit more expensive but slightly darker. If you can get your hands on it, it might be worth a try as well. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212315-other-companies-similar-to-adeptus-battle-grey/#findComment-2525460 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderhawk3015 Posted October 1, 2010 Share Posted October 1, 2010 Closest I have seen is the Army Painter Grey Primer. Its still a bit lighter that Adeptus but its close and its not as light as Astronomican Grey. I'm going to assume here that you don't have an airbrush. If you did I would suggest black undercoat followed by airbrushing on Adeptus. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212315-other-companies-similar-to-adeptus-battle-grey/#findComment-2525881 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhorse47 Posted October 1, 2010 Share Posted October 1, 2010 The Testor's Model Master paints are excellent, I use them all the time. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212315-other-companies-similar-to-adeptus-battle-grey/#findComment-2525941 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Tekka Posted October 1, 2010 Author Share Posted October 1, 2010 The Testor's Model Master paints are excellent, I use them all the time. any recommendation of which color to look at? Hobby Lobby by me has several different shades of grey. I'm going to assume here that you don't have an airbrush. I had a testors one at one point but no one can seem to find it. I should invest in a nice one at some point... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212315-other-companies-similar-to-adeptus-battle-grey/#findComment-2526231 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhorse47 Posted October 1, 2010 Share Posted October 1, 2010 I use Intermediate Blue, but it is an icy blue gray color, I'm not sure how it will compare to GW paints. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212315-other-companies-similar-to-adeptus-battle-grey/#findComment-2526257 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Johnson the 3rd jr Posted October 2, 2010 Share Posted October 2, 2010 Just remember, the ones GW or other wargame companies use are meant for the tiny and detailed miniatures. At least that's the BS they indoctrinate everyone with so that folks will spend $15 dollars for a $4 spray can. Krylon Primers work perfectly fine on detail. I researched this myself a few months back and literally found over 500 Warhammer folks stating that Krylon and other spray paints work perfectly fine. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212315-other-companies-similar-to-adeptus-battle-grey/#findComment-2526910 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderhawk3015 Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 Work perfectly fine until you get a sub par batch of it and your models get jacked up. And 500 people is not even 1/10th of the total community of people who paint war game miniatures. That 4$ can of primer is designed to cover large areas quickly ie, high pigment density, this means any screw up in distance or humidity will result in a loss of detail and there is nowhere near the attention paid to ensuring each batch of the cheapo primer is the same quality as they are designed for large scale projects where that tiny little line/set of cracks don't actually matter and sanding down the paint is going to be a probable occurrence along with using multiple coats to actually prime or paint. That higher pigment density leads to much faster degradation of model detail. Krylon is also designed to bind to the plastic if memory serves me and all of the ones I have had the misfortune of using have produced a glossy finish which is hell to try and paint over without first having to scuff the model. Another thing to consider is that some paints do not interact well with each other due to their composition this could lead to paints refusing to stick to the "bargain" primer. Primers made by a company are designed to work correctly with their paints and similar ones and actually provide the proper surface for paint to adhere to. The same saying in the automotive world applies here, "you get what you pay for" cheap parts/materials = poor results, props to anyone who can pull that off but unless someone is already a painting master then using the better materials will alleviate stress, and make it easier for others to help when questions are asked There is a reason that many painters use the same materials and suggest them to others, they work, they have been proven to work without hassle. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212315-other-companies-similar-to-adeptus-battle-grey/#findComment-2527092 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Johnson the 3rd jr Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 "Bargain" primer? $4 is the normal price for Krylon primer where I am. $15 is the insane, greedy GW price for the same quality primer. The fact is, you don't need the "special" GW primer. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212315-other-companies-similar-to-adeptus-battle-grey/#findComment-2527096 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Johnson the 3rd jr Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 Krylon is also designed to bind to the plastic if memory serves me Oh dear your memory has failed you. There is Krylon primer, and then there is Krylon Fusion, which is different and does bind to things. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212315-other-companies-similar-to-adeptus-battle-grey/#findComment-2527099 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsavong Lah Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 Not to hijack the thread, but I'm looking to do the same thing except my color scheme primarily uses Codex Grey. Anyone know of really close matches to that in spray primers? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212315-other-companies-similar-to-adeptus-battle-grey/#findComment-2527113 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolf363839 Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 Krylon Grey Primer matches Adeptus Battlegrey nearly perfectly. I base coated / primed my entire army with it. Just like any spray paint, too much will obscure detail, but this stuff is pretty forgiving even if you go a little heavy. After I finished painting, I sealed it with Krylon Crystal Clear - Flat. This will varnish and protect the model as well as turn the grey into a more metallic and darker shade. I really like the way it looks. Here are a few examples. http://i955.photobucket.com/albums/ae39/phil363839/Space%20Wolf%20Army/DSCF2282.jpg?t=1286122353 http://i955.photobucket.com/albums/ae39/phil363839/Space%20Wolf%20Army/DSCF2292.jpg?t=1286122353 http://i955.photobucket.com/albums/ae39/phil363839/Space%20Wolf%20Army/DSCF2450.jpg?t=1286122440 By the way, $3 a can at walmart. Can't beat it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212315-other-companies-similar-to-adeptus-battle-grey/#findComment-2527423 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Johnson the 3rd jr Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 for those who may have missed it, every place you look online, and certainly over the interwebs as a whole, there are more people against overpriced GW spray paint then there are for it. Most folks have used other spray paints / primers to great effect and say so. Krylon grey primer is less than four dollars at Wal-mart and works fine. There are other brands at a reasonable price which have their testimonials too, but I don't remember the names. Searching here, on dakka and on other warhammer sites will give you the options you need, and best of all, you won't be throwing money down the drain by paying 4 times the price for paint that GW slapped their name on. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212315-other-companies-similar-to-adeptus-battle-grey/#findComment-2527424 Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverneil Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 Wolf, very nice looking grey Neil Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212315-other-companies-similar-to-adeptus-battle-grey/#findComment-2527432 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Johnson the 3rd jr Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 wolf363839, you are the man. Even if you are a woman. Figure of speech, you know? I am going to use your trick on my vehicles. I've already use Krylon's primer on some marines, but I really like the slightly darker slightly metallic effect from the clear spray paint for vehicles. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212315-other-companies-similar-to-adeptus-battle-grey/#findComment-2527433 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ragnarok Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 Lets watch the personal attacks and tone. There will be no more in thread warnings.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212315-other-companies-similar-to-adeptus-battle-grey/#findComment-2527478 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Tekka Posted October 3, 2010 Author Share Posted October 3, 2010 Krylon Grey Primer matches Adeptus Battlegrey nearly perfectly. I base coated / primed my entire army with it. Just like any spray paint, too much will obscure detail, but this stuff is pretty forgiving even if you go a little heavy. After I finished painting, I sealed it with Krylon Crystal Clear - Flat. This will varnish and protect the model as well as turn the grey into a more metallic and darker shade. I really like the way it looks. Here are a few examples. http://i955.photobucket.com/albums/ae39/phil363839/Space%20Wolf%20Army/DSCF2282.jpg?t=1286122353 http://i955.photobucket.com/albums/ae39/phil363839/Space%20Wolf%20Army/DSCF2292.jpg?t=1286122353 http://i955.photobucket.com/albums/ae39/phil363839/Space%20Wolf%20Army/DSCF2450.jpg?t=1286122440 By the way, $3 a can at walmart. Can't beat it. That's exactly what I'm looking for. Stopped by Walmart and they of course they were out... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212315-other-companies-similar-to-adeptus-battle-grey/#findComment-2527652 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhorse47 Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 Okay, there are several good, usable primers out there, even including the $1 Walmart primer. When you have reactions, one of two things usually happened: 1. You didn't let the primer dry thoroughly, or 2. You used lacquer over enamel. I regularly use the Walmart primer, gray, black or white. Also, the Testor's line has a very good primer. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212315-other-companies-similar-to-adeptus-battle-grey/#findComment-2527670 Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlbitz Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 I have cleaned up this thread and removed any and all off topic comments. (with the exception of Lord Ragnarok's in thread warning). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212315-other-companies-similar-to-adeptus-battle-grey/#findComment-2527704 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fhyn Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 Thanks Wolf, thats exactly what color I was looking for. Will help out painting all my stuff. So guess its a trip out to Home Depot after work. :rolleyes: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212315-other-companies-similar-to-adeptus-battle-grey/#findComment-2528258 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyleesa Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 What company produces Adeptus battle grey? Can't find it in the GW paints range... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212315-other-companies-similar-to-adeptus-battle-grey/#findComment-2529463 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chodjinn Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 where can I get Krylon in the UK? Or not at all? If not, are there any alternatives? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212315-other-companies-similar-to-adeptus-battle-grey/#findComment-2529487 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dewi Sant Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 Save up and spend the cash on a compressor and airbrush. You will never look back! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212315-other-companies-similar-to-adeptus-battle-grey/#findComment-2529594 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsavong Lah Posted October 7, 2010 Share Posted October 7, 2010 Krylon Grey Primer matches Adeptus Battlegrey nearly perfectly. I base coated / primed my entire army with it. Just like any spray paint, too much will obscure detail, but this stuff is pretty forgiving even if you go a little heavy. After I finished painting, I sealed it with Krylon Crystal Clear - Flat. This will varnish and protect the model as well as turn the grey into a more metallic and darker shade. I really like the way it looks. Here are a few examples. [images] By the way, $3 a can at walmart. Can't beat it. Hey, what all went into those bases? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212315-other-companies-similar-to-adeptus-battle-grey/#findComment-2530229 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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