Kronk Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 When I first saw the Mark III powered armor on the Forgeworld website, by first thought was Sternguard Veterans. So, I bought enough to make 15. I'm going to take my time with this unit, and I figured I post here to get feedback as I go. We'll start with the individual pieces. When I got the pieces, I was pleased with how little flashing there was. I didn't take a picture, but the flashing did not take too long to remove. However, there was a bad mold line on 3 of the legs. I was able to correct it with my hobby knife. You can hardly tell now. Here are all of the pieces. Also in this picture are some of my old school bolters and some bits that I used to make combi-weapons. More on those, later. http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b176/bwtodd/Minis/Warhammer/2010%20Warhammer/Mark%203%20Sternguard/Sternguard071.jpg Here are some of the legs and chest pieces. I really like these chest pieces. http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b176/bwtodd/Minis/Warhammer/2010%20Warhammer/Mark%203%20Sternguard/Sternguard072.jpg The backpacks: http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b176/bwtodd/Minis/Warhammer/2010%20Warhammer/Mark%203%20Sternguard/Sternguard073.jpg The heads: http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b176/bwtodd/Minis/Warhammer/2010%20Warhammer/Mark%203%20Sternguard/Sternguard074.jpg The arms: http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b176/bwtodd/Minis/Warhammer/2010%20Warhammer/Mark%203%20Sternguard/Sternguard076.jpg The shoulder pads. I really like these, as well. http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b176/bwtodd/Minis/Warhammer/2010%20Warhammer/Mark%203%20Sternguard/Sternguard077.jpg One thing I didn't like was how the head piece fit on the body. The chin rests on the armor, which looks silly. If you turn the head to the left or the right, it just doesn't work. See below: http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b176/bwtodd/Minis/Warhammer/2010%20Warhammer/Mark%203%20Sternguard/Sternguard085.jpg So, I put a little green-stuff in the neck and it works just fine: http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b176/bwtodd/Minis/Warhammer/2010%20Warhammer/Mark%203%20Sternguard/Sternguard086.jpg http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b176/bwtodd/Minis/Warhammer/2010%20Warhammer/Mark%203%20Sternguard/Sternguard087.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortsonfire79 Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 Wow, 15 of these guys! Thats going to be beast. And good job with the head/neck thing, good call there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kronk Posted October 3, 2010 Author Share Posted October 3, 2010 Sternguard Sergeant: Wargear: Combi-Melta and Powerfist. I'm not sure how smart putting a power-fist on a sternguard Sergeant is, but I had a very old power fist in my bits bin and couldn't resist. I had this old sprue, and I wanted the old style power fist to be part of this sergeant. http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b176/bwtodd/Minis/Warhammer/2010%20Warhammer/OldWeapons003.jpg However, because the arm pieces on the Mark III armor are unique, I didn't want the arm on this power fist to clash. So I cut the arm off the power fist and cut the hand of the Mark III armored left arm. Add a little super glue, and it's nearly done. I filled in the gaps with green stuff, and now it's complete. http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b176/bwtodd/Minis/Warhammer/2010%20Warhammer/Mark%203%20Sternguard/Sternguard078.jpg http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b176/bwtodd/Minis/Warhammer/2010%20Warhammer/Mark%203%20Sternguard/Sternguard079.jpg For the combi-melta, I used a Black Templar meltagun and an old bolter. I think these are from 2nd or 3rd edition Space Marines. For good measure, I added a crusader seal (purity seal for you non-Templars). http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b176/bwtodd/Minis/Warhammer/2010%20Warhammer/Mark%203%20Sternguard/Sternguard084.jpg For the bases, I used pieces of cork board that my wife had left over from her home office project and some GW sand that my friend gave me. http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b176/bwtodd/Minis/Warhammer/2010%20Warhammer/Mark%203%20Sternguard/Sternguard080.jpg http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b176/bwtodd/Minis/Warhammer/2010%20Warhammer/Mark%203%20Sternguard/Sternguard081.jpg I want the sergeant to look dynamic, so I chose the running legs and then selected a base that would allow his left foot to hand in mid-air, so that he appears to be running. http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b176/bwtodd/Minis/Warhammer/2010%20Warhammer/Mark%203%20Sternguard/Sternguard082.jpg http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b176/bwtodd/Minis/Warhammer/2010%20Warhammer/Mark%203%20Sternguard/Sternguard083.jpg I attached the chest piece next, and added the power fist arm. I adjusted the arm so that the hand is pointing forward. You can see some of the green stuff for the neck and on the power fist in these pictures. http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b176/bwtodd/Minis/Warhammer/2010%20Warhammer/Mark%203%20Sternguard/Sternguard088.jpg http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b176/bwtodd/Minis/Warhammer/2010%20Warhammer/Mark%203%20Sternguard/Sternguard089.jpg Finally, I added the combi-melta, the head, the backpack, and the two shoulder pads. http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b176/bwtodd/Minis/Warhammer/2010%20Warhammer/Mark%203%20Sternguard/Sternguard090.jpg http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b176/bwtodd/Minis/Warhammer/2010%20Warhammer/Mark%203%20Sternguard/Sternguard091.jpg And primed http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b176/bwtodd/Minis/Warhammer/2010%20Warhammer/Mark%203%20Sternguard/Sternguard101.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeller Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 The sergeant doesn't have a particulalry natural looking run with both of his arms being forward. The head looking one way and the gun aimed another looks awkward in the last picture. Perhaps if his head was turned more left, the fist was raised in front of his torso so as to look like he's about to backhand someone, and by rotating the combi-melta at the wrist to the left it would look more natural. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyaenidae Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 I've had one of those old fists laying around for ages, and I've had no dang clue what to do with it. Thanks for the inspiration, man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Father Ferrum Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 The sergeant doesn't have a particulalry natural looking run with both of his arms being forward. The head looking one way and the gun aimed another looks awkward in the last picture. Perhaps if his head was turned more left, the fist was raised in front of his torso so as to look like he's about to backhand someone, and by rotating the combi-melta at the wrist to the left it would look more natural. That was my first thought, too, and why on my Mk. Sternguard sergeant I posed his arms both hanging low since the legs appear to be mid-stride: http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h96/DTRI/PICT0241-1.jpg Remember that when walking or running, the arms naturally swing opposite of the same side legs. Fix that up, and he'll look much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scathainn Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 Right now he's in "I want to give you a hug" pose. He needs to be in "I WILL CRUSH YOUR SKULL IN THE NAME OF THE EMPEROR, XENOS/HERETIC SCUM!!!" pose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother-Chaplain Gaius Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 the fancy armor looks great, combi melta not so great. I would probably swap the backpack out as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
averykess Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 I bet those arms would make suitable MK8 arms if you took the rivets off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kronk Posted October 3, 2010 Author Share Posted October 3, 2010 And here is the painted sergeant with combi-melta and powerfist. http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b176/bwtodd/Minis/Warhammer/2010%20Warhammer/Mark%203%20Sternguard/Sternguard002.jpg http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b176/bwtodd/Minis/Warhammer/2010%20Warhammer/Mark%203%20Sternguard/Sternguard003.jpg http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b176/bwtodd/Minis/Warhammer/2010%20Warhammer/Mark%203%20Sternguard/Sternguard004.jpg http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b176/bwtodd/Minis/Warhammer/2010%20Warhammer/Mark%203%20Sternguard/Sternguard01.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRCHAOS Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 That is a realy good paint job, but the combi weapon does not look right at all! Can I suggest you put the melta part underneath the bolter and put the magazine on the side or top, as at the moment it realy does just look like a melta plonked on with no thought put into it! But again that paint job is brilliant, and its up to you if you are happy with the combi or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kronk Posted October 4, 2010 Author Share Posted October 4, 2010 I'm calling it a night, but here's how far I got on the next 4 sternguard. Each is sporting a combi-melta. I tried a few variations, plus I used an actual combi-melta. http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b176/bwtodd/Minis/Warhammer/2010%20Warhammer/Mark%203%20Sternguard/Sternguard001-1.jpg http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b176/bwtodd/Minis/Warhammer/2010%20Warhammer/Mark%203%20Sternguard/Sternguard002-1.jpg http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b176/bwtodd/Minis/Warhammer/2010%20Warhammer/Mark%203%20Sternguard/Sternguard003-1.jpg http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b176/bwtodd/Minis/Warhammer/2010%20Warhammer/Mark%203%20Sternguard/Sternguard004-1.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain sox Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 Hello! nice looking models! Just a dumb question: are those resin or plastic models? I thought all FW were resin... thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeller Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 That's a helluva nice paintjob! The detailing along the armor edges and the metal helmet look great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kronk Posted October 4, 2010 Author Share Posted October 4, 2010 Hello! nice looking models! Just a dumb question: are those resin or plastic models? I thought all FW were resin... thanks They are Resin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muller Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 It's been said by a few and I will throw my vote in for the same motion. The combimeltas really drags down the models a great deal, of your 4 finished models only the two in the middle look good, the two on the sides looks just like what it is; a meltagun glued on top of a bolter. I strongly vote for you to change that to get these fellas giving the great looks the FW MKIII armor should look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kronk Posted October 4, 2010 Author Share Posted October 4, 2010 I hear you, and agree that they could be much better. However, I've glued both hands to the gun. I'm not sure what to do at this point that wouldn't completely ruin the mini. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kronk Posted October 5, 2010 Author Share Posted October 5, 2010 Here's all I had time to complete tonight. Nearly done. http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b176/bwtodd/Minis/Warhammer/2010%20Warhammer/Mark%203%20Sternguard/Sternguard1.jpg http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b176/bwtodd/Minis/Warhammer/2010%20Warhammer/Mark%203%20Sternguard/Sternguard2.jpg http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b176/bwtodd/Minis/Warhammer/2010%20Warhammer/Mark%203%20Sternguard/Sternguard3.jpg http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b176/bwtodd/Minis/Warhammer/2010%20Warhammer/Mark%203%20Sternguard/Sternguard4.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Mick Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 Fantastic painted models, u can be really proud on them. Well done <_< . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Kovash Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 The first few models look great, and to be honest the combi-meltas look fine. Just tell your opponent that they were quickly rigged up by some techmarines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kronk Posted October 5, 2010 Author Share Posted October 5, 2010 Thanks for the feedback, everyone. And I understand (and 100% agree) with the feedback on the combi-meltas, guys. Any further combi-meltas I make will have the bolter part on top. Those do look better. Unfortunately, these' have been glued in place. I'd rather have less than perfect botlers than risk ruining my models by trying to take them back off. Live and learn. Feedback was the main reason why I'm posting these. I still have 5 more combi-meltas to make, so I'll try to make them look like the second one from the left in this picture. http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b176/bwtodd/Minis/Warhammer/2010%20Warhammer/Mark%203%20Sternguard/Sternguard1.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argon Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 I had this old sprue, and I wanted the old style power fist to be part of this sergeant. http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b176/bwtodd/Minis/Warhammer/2010%20Warhammer/OldWeapons003.jpg Could you tell me what sprue this is? I really, really like that power axe and want to put it on a sergeant or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retributis Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 It's the old 2nd ed CC weapons sprue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShinyRhino Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 It's the old 2nd ed CC weapons sprue. Which has become very hard to track down. Occasionally, you'll see one on eBay, but they tend to sell for 6-10 dollars for a full sprue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kronk Posted October 6, 2010 Author Share Posted October 6, 2010 A buddy gave me 3 of those sprues. He had them for a long time, but didn't need them. I was saving them for a cool conversion and figured the Mark III armor was the time to use them. Here are the 4 sternguard that will support the sergeant above with close-ups of the combi-melta I liked best. http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b176/bwtodd/Minis/Warhammer/2010%20Warhammer/Mark%203%20Sternguard/Sternguard001-2.jpg http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b176/bwtodd/Minis/Warhammer/2010%20Warhammer/Mark%203%20Sternguard/Sternguard006.jpg http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b176/bwtodd/Minis/Warhammer/2010%20Warhammer/Mark%203%20Sternguard/Sternguard007.jpg http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b176/bwtodd/Minis/Warhammer/2010%20Warhammer/Mark%203%20Sternguard/Sternguard008.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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