Talmora Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 Okay. I am still very new at WH40k and I just bought a SM assault squad, I am converting them to a more CSM look. This is what I was thinking for them: Power-axe Plasma Pistol Bolt Pistol (he is dual wielding them for the look) Power sword (don't know two Power Weapons is okay) and Shield (don't know name) Chain sword and Bolter Pistol Storm Bolter (don't know if that is able to happen) and Chain sword I am limited mostly to some plasma pistols, chain swords, bolter pistols, Bolters, powerfist. PS: Is this in the right forum section? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212852-advice-for-assault-squad/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khestra the Unbeheld Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 Firstly, if you're turning Assault Marines into Raptors, they're all going to start out having a bolt pistol and a chainsword. Kiss the storm bolter and shields goodbye, you'll never be able to take them. You can have an Aspiring Champion upgrade which will get you the ability to purchase a power weapon (sword or axe), power fist, a pair of lightning claws, and/or a plasma pistol. Two other guys in the squad can change out their pistols for plasma pistols, flamers, plasmaguns, or meltaguns. The squad can be upgraded with an Icon if you choose to buy one. This is all detailed in the Codex in full. Parts-wise, there's only so much crossover between Raptors and Assault Marines. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212852-advice-for-assault-squad/#findComment-2532276 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shas'o R'Vre Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 Unfortunately, the SM assault squad does not allow you to equip the best loadout for Raptors, which is 2x Meltaguns, Powerfist, Turning them into flying CSM's. Raptors seem to be our only useful Fast Attack units, so equipping them for Anti-Tank is a good plan, allowing them to support your mech'd up CSM's by jumping around hiding behind the Rhinos/Raiders and then Jumping out and Melting something big. Remember, Raptors have the advantage over CSM's that they can move 12" AND Charge. Exploit that. Melta a Vehicle, and if that doesn't work, Powerfist it. Or take on a MC, burning off two of its wounds before you even get there. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212852-advice-for-assault-squad/#findComment-2532388 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freman Bloodglaive Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 Of course if you have a good bitz box you should be able to equip them easily enough. There are two configurations I see as useful. 5 men, two meltaguns, 120 points. Their function is like Land Speeders in the Marine 'Dex. Just jump close to a tank and slag it. If they then die they die. 10 men, two meltaguns, aspiring champion, icon of Slaanesh, lightning claws. 280 points. I favour the IoS because it allows you to get your licks in first against your most common enemy, Marines, which is the only thing I can see compensating for the numerical advantage that Marines have. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212852-advice-for-assault-squad/#findComment-2532407 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shas'o R'Vre Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 5 men, two meltaguns, 120 points. Their function is like Land Speeders in the Marine 'Dex. Just jump close to a tank and slag it. If they then die they die. 10 men, two meltaguns, aspiring champion, icon of Slaanesh, lightning claws. 280 points. I favour the IoS because it allows you to get your licks in first against your most common enemy, Marines, which is the only thing I can see compensating for the numerical advantage that Marines have. Seconded. That IoS and those LClaws are a kick in the points department, but can be worth it. I tend to take a fist instead but if you are more interested in killing MEQ's then take them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212852-advice-for-assault-squad/#findComment-2532413 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talmora Posted October 10, 2010 Author Share Posted October 10, 2010 Of course if you have a good bitz box you should be able to equip them easily enough. There are two configurations I see as useful. 5 men, two meltaguns, 120 points. Their function is like Land Speeders in the Marine 'Dex. Just jump close to a tank and slag it. If they then die they die. 10 men, two meltaguns, aspiring champion, icon of Slaanesh, lightning claws. 280 points. I favour the IoS because it allows you to get your licks in first against your most common enemy, Marines, which is the only thing I can see compensating for the numerical advantage that Marines have. I only have a 5 men squad atm. And my bitz box is low on the melta/flamer/Plasma Gun side..Mostly just have tons of Chainswords, Bolt Pistols, and a couple Plasma Pistols. Got the power fist, power axe, and power sword from Assault squad, and have a Storm Bolter, Combi-Melta, Termi Power Fist, and the tentacle part from Termi squad. So yeah, not the best two work with, but I do have a Chaos Lord Termi ordered and don't really know if the Lightning Claws from it would work or not. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212852-advice-for-assault-squad/#findComment-2532609 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freman Bloodglaive Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 They're large, but can work with a bit of cutting. GW sell metal meltaguns in packs of five. I'd recommend a couple of packs for a Chaos army. I don't think Chaos do a balanced army as well as Codex Marines do, so they're pretty much restricted to short ranged/close combat units (although Obliterators provide flexible ranged fire) like Space Wolves but costing more so less effective overall. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212852-advice-for-assault-squad/#findComment-2532696 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Kovash Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 I've been using an Assault Squad as raptors for a while now, and they work great with 2 meltaguns. Popping a Land Raider first turn is always fun. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212852-advice-for-assault-squad/#findComment-2532718 Share on other sites More sharing options...
the jeske Posted October 10, 2010 Share Posted October 10, 2010 well its not like its hard to make plasma guns when you have some free bolters and plasma pistols. not the most perfect [aka good] load out for a raptor unit , but still better then runing them around naked. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212852-advice-for-assault-squad/#findComment-2532738 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freman Bloodglaive Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 Running them around naked would be a sure sign they followed Slaanesh. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212852-advice-for-assault-squad/#findComment-2533183 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shas'o R'Vre Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 Running them around naked would be a sure sign they followed Slaanesh. :lol: It's a term of phrase meaning No Upgrades, if you didn't know. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212852-advice-for-assault-squad/#findComment-2533333 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freman Bloodglaive Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 Yes, I know. Wondering if any manufacturer makes scantily clad warrior women to act as Slaaneshi cultists. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212852-advice-for-assault-squad/#findComment-2533611 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khestra the Unbeheld Posted October 11, 2010 Share Posted October 11, 2010 Yes, I know. Wondering if any manufacturer makes scantily clad warrior women to act as Slaaneshi cultists. Copplestone Castings does cavewomen in 28mm scale. Hasslefree Miniatures and Fenryll Miniatures have also got some less-than-socially acceptable 28mm scale female models, but expect to pay a small fortune for the numbers you'll be looking for. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212852-advice-for-assault-squad/#findComment-2533637 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freman Bloodglaive Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 I guess I'll manage without them then. :) Still Fenryll do some very nice miniatures, and in resin too. I bet they're pretty fragile. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/212852-advice-for-assault-squad/#findComment-2534154 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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