Let's discuss BA Razorback weapon upgrades..

[tahrikmili]

Our razorbacks are fast.. That adds a great deal of flexibility to how the top mounted gun can be equipped..

 

Which options do you prefer, and why?

 

More specifically;

 

1. Is the TL Heavy Bolter ever a better choice than the TL Heavy Flamer?

2. Between the expensive turret upgrades, what do you like the most, and why?

3. Is the TL LC a reliable anti-armor upgrade?

4. Is the Stronos pattern a good firesupport upgrade?

5. Why do I see so many TL Assault Cannon spams?

 

And please feel free to share with me any further experiences you have.. I'm currently trying to decide whether the Stronos or TL LC upgrades are worth it, specifically..

[the jeske]

1. Is the TL Heavy Bolter ever a better choice than the TL Heavy Flamer? yes

2. Between the expensive turret upgrades, what do you like the most, and why? the LC and the LC/plas load out , because they can do more or less everything and a lot of stuff in the BA lists can deal with hords

3. Is the TL LC a reliable anti-armor upgrade? in what kind of a build ?in a razor spam ? not alone . in a normal mecha . no because one or two is two few. jump builds dont use razors.

4. Is the Stronos pattern a good firesupport upgrade? ??? no idea what your talking about here

5. Why do I see so many TL Assault Cannon spams? because amis have something for gatling guns , even if they suck rules wise. even with the drop in cost for RAS the AC on a razor is not worth it. rending nerf and the cost of the upgrade do that.

[JamesI]

I love the twin lascannon razor for most units. Unless its something that needs to be upclose, then I go assault cannon.

 

For a 5 man RAS, the twin linked lascannon is fine for them.

[Firedrake28]

1. Is the TL Heavy Bolter ever a better choice than the TL Heavy Flamer?

 

Sometimes, sure. It depends on what your list needs. If you require long-ranged firepower than the heavy bolter is your best bet.

 

2. Between the expensive turret upgrades, what do you like the most, and why?

 

Assault cannon, because it's a fantastic weapon, especially when twin-linked. It's good at wounding infantry and Monstrous Creatures and can tear light and medium vehicles apart.

 

3. Is the TL LC a reliable anti-armor upgrade?

 

Only if you have a lot of them. One lascannon twin-linked or not isn't all that great at busting armor.

 

4. Is the Stronos pattern a good firesupport upgrade?

 

You talking about the lascannon and twin-linked plasma guns? Sure, it's a fine upgrade.

 

5. Why do I see so many TL Assault Cannon spams?

 

Because the twin-linked assault cannon suits the Blood Angel Razorback's strengths perfectly (mostly its speed and points cost). The short range of the assault cannon is typically a serious weakness, but on a Fast vehicle it's not much of a problem. I use twin-linked assault cannon exclusively on my Razorbacks and love them, especially when used alongside a Baal Predator or two.

[Red Fury]

I agree with most of what has already been said, but I'll throw in my two cents:

 

1. Is the TL Heavy Bolter ever a better choice than the TL Heavy Flamer?

For most things yes, for a dedicated CC squad delivery system, no. I always use the TL HFlamers for my DC transport as it drives forward as fast as possible. The Extra short range killyness is a good choice here over the long range HBolters that will benifit most RAS squads a little better as they sit about waiting for their opprotunity.

2. Between the expensive turret upgrades, what do you like the most, and why?

Asscannon. 4 shots + twin linked + rending. It can hurt everything.

3. Is the TL LC a reliable anti-armor upgrade?

It's great at taking out <13 AV vehicles like other rhinos and razors, not good enough for Preds and LRs though. The biggest problem I have had with this upgrade is that I never want to advance the Razor at all. Keeping it in the back field and trying to snipe targets to get the most out of that expensive upgrade then takes the squad out of the fight.

4. Is the Stronos pattern a good firesupport upgrade?

The 3 low ap shots are great but nothing is twin linked. Not good for armor and too few shots for infantry, plus with cover saves I'd rather have 4 asscannon shots.

5. Why do I see so many TL Assault Cannon spams?

See 2 above. Plus the short range and CC RAS squad cargo compliment each other. You don't have the desire to hang back like with the TLLC setup but you still get a good weapon. For a 55 point vehicle, it's a great choice.

 

-Fury

[Drachnon]

1. Heavy bolters is probably the best choice overall tough there's always scenarios where the flamers would be better.

2. Assault cannons are awesome as always I find that their only weakness is that they are 24 inch range but on a vehicle that can move 12 and fire it's not a problem.

3. Lascannons are always a good choice for taking out vehicles though against really hard targets you'd probably do better with multi melta's.

4. I don't like the lascannon plasma gun setup. Mostly because when I have a lascannon I want to fire against vehicles and with plasma guns at heavy infantry.

5. TL assault cannons are awesome, it's pretty accepted amongst most players. Having to potential to field half a dozen of them in your troop choices makes a lot of enemies scared.

[SamaNagol]

TLAC are far and away the best options against anyone other than Necrons. Your proc rate for penetrating hits is higher against every armour value when compared to a TLLascannon, you have superior anti infantry capabilities compared to a TL Lascannon and you are only marginally less effective against monstrous creatures.

 

Why would you ever want to be further than 24 inches away from the enemy I don't know.