Gree Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 The Emperor could well have been stunned into shock by seeing Sang's dead body but he didn't witness how he died. IIRC Horus used his newly-gifted Chaos powers to strip the flesh from Ollanius' body and consume his very soul. The Emperor actually witnessed that and realised that there was no return possible for Horus and that's when he went Super Saiyen. Again, I know that, but given prior evidence and the fact that Horus would have probably used those same magics against the Emperor I honesntly can't see how a soul as anchient and jaded as the Emperor's could even care. When the self-centred and jaded Emperor finally realised the pinnacle of his second most important project (after attempting to make a human webway) had utterly failed and he threw a giant tantrum...? When did he do that? I don't recall him ever trhowing a ''tantrum'' as you so put it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/213159-the-point-of-no-return-for-angron/page/2/#findComment-2538650 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khestra the Unbeheld Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 Not even bothering to ask why Magnus did what he did and instead giving him the boot with his mind is pretty much as tantrum-y as this guy probably gets. . .when he doesn't have a civilization to obliterate. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/213159-the-point-of-no-return-for-angron/page/2/#findComment-2538705 Share on other sites More sharing options...
calgar101 Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 Magnus had disobeyed orders from the Emperor and had not heeded his warnings. The 'message' was infact a disguised attack. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/213159-the-point-of-no-return-for-angron/page/2/#findComment-2538717 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gree Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 Not even bothering to ask why Magnus did what he did and instead giving him the boot with his mind is pretty much as tantrum-y as this guy probably gets. . .when he doesn't have a civilization to obliterate. Again how was that a tantrum? A Thousand Sons explains the Emperor recived the information that Magnus delivered, it's just what Magnus accidentily did was a massive mistake and in direct defiance of the Emperor's judgement at Nikea. Right or wrong. the Emperor was angry, but he responded ruthlessly and efficiently to destroy Magnus. Hardly a tantrum in my book. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/213159-the-point-of-no-return-for-angron/page/2/#findComment-2538728 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forze Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 Actually the Emperor wanted Russ to only arrest Magnus, just like Dorn did with Night Haunter. Due to the turbulences in the warp (or some ploy by the Chaos Gods) Horus received the message before Russ & changed the contents to destroy Prospero instead of apprehending Magnus. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/213159-the-point-of-no-return-for-angron/page/2/#findComment-2538731 Share on other sites More sharing options...
calgar101 Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 Magnus's punishment would have been to sit upon the throne to allow the Emperor to go smite some ass. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/213159-the-point-of-no-return-for-angron/page/2/#findComment-2538733 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gree Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 Actually the Emperor wanted Russ to only arrest Magnus, just like Dorn did with Night Haunter. Due to the turbulences in the warp (or some ploy by the Chaos Gods) Horus received the message before Russ & changed the contents to destroy Prospero instead of apprehending Magnus. Okay thanks, that just further proves my point here. The Emperor reacted pretty efficiently in my book, considering the context of his point of view. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/213159-the-point-of-no-return-for-angron/page/2/#findComment-2538743 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrath of Terra Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 The Emperor could well have been stunned into shock by seeing Sang's dead body but he didn't witness how he died. IIRC Horus used his newly-gifted Chaos powers to strip the flesh from Ollanius' body and consume his very soul. The Emperor actually witnessed that and realised that there was no return possible for Horus and that's when he went Super Saiyen. Again, I know that, but given prior evidence and the fact that Horus would have probably used those same magics against the Emperor I honesntly can't see how a soul as anchient and jaded as the Emperor's could even care. When the self-centred and jaded Emperor finally realised the pinnacle of his second most important project (after attempting to make a human webway) had utterly failed and he threw a giant tantrum...? When did he do that? I don't recall him ever trhowing a ''tantrum'' as you so put it. Just a choice of word. Insert nerd-rage, vengeful smithing etc etc, whatever floats your boat. I was making the point that the Emperor at that moment realised that his second greatest experiment failed and he'd made up his mind to end it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/213159-the-point-of-no-return-for-angron/page/2/#findComment-2538771 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gree Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 The Emperor could well have been stunned into shock by seeing Sang's dead body but he didn't witness how he died. IIRC Horus used his newly-gifted Chaos powers to strip the flesh from Ollanius' body and consume his very soul. The Emperor actually witnessed that and realised that there was no return possible for Horus and that's when he went Super Saiyen. Again, I know that, but given prior evidence and the fact that Horus would have probably used those same magics against the Emperor I honesntly can't see how a soul as anchient and jaded as the Emperor's could even care. When the self-centred and jaded Emperor finally realised the pinnacle of his second most important project (after attempting to make a human webway) had utterly failed and he threw a giant tantrum...? When did he do that? I don't recall him ever trhowing a ''tantrum'' as you so put it. Just a choice of word. Insert nerd-rage, vengeful smithing etc etc, whatever floats your boat. I was making the point that the Emperor at that moment realised that his second greatest experiment failed and he'd made up his mind to end it. Then the Emperor should have realized it had ended far sooner given the blatently obvious clues before that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/213159-the-point-of-no-return-for-angron/page/2/#findComment-2538887 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrath of Terra Posted October 18, 2010 Share Posted October 18, 2010 The Emperor could well have been stunned into shock by seeing Sang's dead body but he didn't witness how he died. IIRC Horus used his newly-gifted Chaos powers to strip the flesh from Ollanius' body and consume his very soul. The Emperor actually witnessed that and realised that there was no return possible for Horus and that's when he went Super Saiyen. Again, I know that, but given prior evidence and the fact that Horus would have probably used those same magics against the Emperor I honesntly can't see how a soul as anchient and jaded as the Emperor's could even care. When the self-centred and jaded Emperor finally realised the pinnacle of his second most important project (after attempting to make a human webway) had utterly failed and he threw a giant tantrum...? When did he do that? I don't recall him ever trhowing a ''tantrum'' as you so put it. Just a choice of word. Insert nerd-rage, vengeful smithing etc etc, whatever floats your boat. I was making the point that the Emperor at that moment realised that his second greatest experiment failed and he'd made up his mind to end it. Then the Emperor should have realized it had ended far sooner given the blatently obvious clues before that. The Emperor should have realised a lot of things in fairness. Either that or it was All According To Plan. Depending on what interpretation of the Emperor and the whole Heresy you take. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/213159-the-point-of-no-return-for-angron/page/2/#findComment-2539496 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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