Lord Lorne Walkier Posted October 30, 2010 Share Posted October 30, 2010 Sorry to go sort of Off Topic here, but I'm thinking of starting a Night Lords army, and I was wondering if using Summoned Daemons and Possessed would be out of character? IIRC they either replace a possessed limb with bionics or just kill themselves if they show signs. I think you would be fine. Most NL's might not be as you described but there is plenty of room for you also. There is nothing to say some NL captain / Sorcerer went a bit off the deep end. He might not be very liked by his brother but who cares. If anything your force will be different then most others which is very cool. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/213268-night-lords/page/3/#findComment-2549498 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legatus Posted October 30, 2010 Share Posted October 30, 2010 When you say 'originally' where exactly are you referring to? Well, "originally" for me usually means 2nd Edition. The 2nd Edition Codex Chaos only ever speaks of seven Legions that are sent after Horus. The 3rd and 4th Edition Codices also seem to only refer to the Sons of Horus plus four other Legions betraying the remaining three loyalists at Istvaan V, though the sources disagree on which four Legions those were. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/213268-night-lords/page/3/#findComment-2549499 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khestra the Unbeheld Posted October 30, 2010 Share Posted October 30, 2010 Originally it were just the Sons of Horus against seven Legions sent to bring Horus down. When you say 'originally' where exactly are you referring to? The earliest mention of Isstvan I know is Realms of Chaos: Slaves to Darkness which stated that Horus corrupted the five chapters under his direct command but didn't specify which except that the Emperor's Children were one of the Isstvan V traitors. The following year Space Marine 1st edition reiterated that the initial rebellion was by Horus and the five chapters under his command but stated them to be the Emperor's Children, World Eaters, Death Guard and Thousand Sons with the Word Bearers, Night Lords, Alpha Legion and Iron Warriors being the Isstvan V traitors - which is the same list as appears in the Iron Warriors IA* and the Black Library Horus Heresy books. Except the Thousand Sons weren't there at all. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/213268-night-lords/page/3/#findComment-2549514 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICHD? Posted October 31, 2010 Share Posted October 31, 2010 Except the Thousand Sons weren't there at all. Yep, they were a bit busy going "Holy Poop, its the Space Wolves!" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/213268-night-lords/page/3/#findComment-2550252 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purge The Weak Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 Mind my spelling it's late ha! I thought Kurze blew up his homeworld because he went back there and seen what happened to it, how it had degenerated back to how it was before his rule and he dispised them. So he made himself a orphan, so to say... It wasn't just for the sheer madness of it, he had motives, if to hardcore. Well thats what i remember from the IA 5+ years ago that I read it hah... Night Lords are by far the best and most juicy legion, cant wait for their story to unravel within the HH series! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/213268-night-lords/page/3/#findComment-2550492 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICHD? Posted November 1, 2010 Share Posted November 1, 2010 Mind my spelling it's late ha! I thought Kurze blew up his homeworld because he went back there and seen what happened to it, how it had degenerated back to how it was before his rule and he dispised them. So he made himself a orphan, so to say... It wasn't just for the sheer madness of it, he had motives, if to hardcore. Well thats what i remember from the IA 5+ years ago that I read it hah... Night Lords are by far the best and most juicy legion, cant wait for their story to unravel within the HH series! Listen to The Lightning Tower. It explains a lot of Curzes reasons for attacking Nostramo. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/213268-night-lords/page/3/#findComment-2551244 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lorne Walkier Posted November 7, 2010 Share Posted November 7, 2010 Mind my spelling it's late ha! I thought Kurze blew up his homeworld because he went back there and seen what happened to it, how it had degenerated back to how it was before his rule and he dispised them. So he made himself a orphan, so to say... It wasn't just for the sheer madness of it, he had motives, if to hardcore. Well thats what i remember from the IA 5+ years ago that I read it hah... Night Lords are by far the best and most juicy legion, cant wait for their story to unravel within the HH series! Listen to The Lightning Tower. It explains a lot of Curzes reasons for attacking Nostramo. Yeh, he did it to make a point. His point was that he was through with the Crusade and following Dorn's orders. Just the crew you want at your back. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/213268-night-lords/page/3/#findComment-2556267 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICHD? Posted November 7, 2010 Share Posted November 7, 2010 Mind my spelling it's late ha! I thought Kurze blew up his homeworld because he went back there and seen what happened to it, how it had degenerated back to how it was before his rule and he dispised them. So he made himself a orphan, so to say... It wasn't just for the sheer madness of it, he had motives, if to hardcore. Well thats what i remember from the IA 5+ years ago that I read it hah... Night Lords are by far the best and most juicy legion, cant wait for their story to unravel within the HH series! Listen to The Lightning Tower. It explains a lot of Curzes reasons for attacking Nostramo. Yeh, he did it to make a point. His point was that he was through with the Crusade and following Dorn's orders. Just the crew you want at your back. Thats not really how I interpreted it. I took it to mean that he was jaded with The Emperor and Dorn complaining he was "too effective", in that he was bringing worlds into compliance and they didn't like how he was doing it. EDIT: oops Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/213268-night-lords/page/3/#findComment-2556273 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICHD? Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 Apologies for the bump, but could members settle some points of contention between myself and a know-it-all at my local GW? All of these are Night Lords related: 1, The Night Lords rejected Chaos, as they did with all faiths, seeing them as a false shield against the horrors of the galaxy as Curze did. 2, Night Lords use Chaos-corrupted power armour parts because uncorrupted parts are far more difficult to get hold of: its essentially a choice between "use this part with an icon of something you rejected on it or die". 3, Yes, Night Lords do ally with other Chaos Legions, but the only reason for that is because their goals just so happen to be the same as the Chaos Legions, in that the total destruction of The Imperium. Those points are my current interpretation of the NL fluff I've been able to get hold of, he's basically saying the exact opposite to these. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/213268-night-lords/page/3/#findComment-2557013 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legatus Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 You are only slightly off. The Night Lords do not reject Chaos, they just despise worship and faith in all forms. However, when they feel they get advantages out of a pact with the dark gods they will engage with them. They will use daemons, allied cult units or may even have a few possessed or daemon princes among them, but they will not usually dedicate themselves to any of the specific deities. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/213268-night-lords/page/3/#findComment-2557068 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICHD? Posted November 9, 2010 Share Posted November 9, 2010 See, this guy is like "Oh, no, they're full blown Chaos Worshippers". Nope. They use the warp to their own ends. Its a tool, nothing else. IIRC there is a bit of fluff that says they tolerate the presence of Furies because they're usually enslaved to Raptor Cults. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/213268-night-lords/page/3/#findComment-2557897 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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