Fred Johnson the 3rd jr Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 I have all my marines already glued to their bases (and painted) but would like to have some kind of snow effect on the bases. What do you guys recommend? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/213582-snow-on-bases/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Wilhelm Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 Linky: GW on snow bases Use wood glue [PVA] and Skullwhite mixed together. You paint that onto the base. Then add snow [get it from a model-train store you gets HEAPS of it compared to GW] and voila! just like in C:SW EDIT: You paint around the feet of your guy. Then Marine has, realistically, sunken through the snow and onto the ground beneath. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/213582-snow-on-bases/#findComment-2541357 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Johnson the 3rd jr Posted October 20, 2010 Author Share Posted October 20, 2010 Because I suck, I was hoping I wouldn't have to paint around anything (my marines are grey with black wash and drybrushed highlights, no other detail work). Is there any way to get some snow effect on there without resorting to painting around my dudes' feet? That still looks ok I mean? Some glue mixture with snow flock on top maybe? My bases are grey from the primer I used, which hopefully will help versus them being black? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/213582-snow-on-bases/#findComment-2541375 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahli Llama Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 Because I suck, I was hoping I wouldn't have to paint around anything (my marines are grey with black wash and drybrushed highlights, no other detail work). Is there any way to get some snow effect on there without resorting to painting around my dudes' feet? That still looks ok I mean? Some glue mixture with snow flock on top maybe? My bases are grey from the primer I used, which hopefully will help versus them being black? You have to paint the glue around feet on the base. It just helps if you mix some white paint with the glue to make it look better. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/213582-snow-on-bases/#findComment-2541377 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Wilhelm Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 Because I suck, I was hoping I wouldn't have to paint around anything (my marines are grey with black wash and drybrushed highlights, no other detail work). Is there any way to get some snow effect on there without resorting to painting around my dudes' feet? That still looks ok I mean? Some glue mixture with snow flock on top maybe?My bases are grey from the primer I used, which hopefully will help versus them being black? You have to paint the glue around feet on the base. It just helps if you mix some white paint with the glue to make it look better. ^ This. You paint the glue-paint mix on [with an old brush and thoroughly rinse it afterwards] around the feet and then sprinkle the snow onto it. I do mine over a lid so that I can tip it back into the jar of snow. If I am doing a few I bury the painted base in a mound of snow and keep putting more bases into that mound of snow, which saves trying to put it back in the jar each time. If you get some glue-paint on the feet, don't worry, snow goes all over the place in RL. If you have used super glue [and not plastic glue] you might be able to snap the Marines off the base. But you have to be careful and if it doesn't happen fairly easily STOP! You'll be left with a pair of feet on the base :tu: I put basing material on the base, paint it with 3 layers of brown, then put the glue-paint mix on. I don't rely on being able to get the glue-paint right up close to the feet. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/213582-snow-on-bases/#findComment-2541394 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerwulf Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 I use a slightly different method... I mix wood glue with backing soda (sodium bicarbonate) and apply that to the base. I then sprinkle that with modelling snow and the result looks quite nice. This is an excellent tutorial on making snow. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/213582-snow-on-bases/#findComment-2541423 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfpack Posted October 20, 2010 Share Posted October 20, 2010 I guess I am cheating but I use Gesso (an acrylic painting medium that is like snow white pudding) or Woodland Scenics makes a modeling paste that is snow white...can be applied with a brush, toothpick or sculpting tool and washes up with water...makes a very nice looking snow as well as ice flows and drifts...dries quick enough and is paintable so if you make a small booboo no worries...when it's dry it 'pops' off like dry plaster to what ever you don't want it on... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/213582-snow-on-bases/#findComment-2541463 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olaf Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 You can use Elmer's white glue and get good results. Put some on the base then use a toothpick to spread it around the base and the models feet. Then dip in modeling snow and shake off the excess. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/213582-snow-on-bases/#findComment-2541585 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Wilhelm Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 You can use Elmer's white glue and get good results. Put some on the base then use a toothpick to spread it around the base and the models feet. Then dip in modeling snow and shake off the excess. I have been told that wood glue becomes yellow with time. Have you heard anything like this? That is why I was told to mix in Skull White. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/213582-snow-on-bases/#findComment-2541597 Share on other sites More sharing options...
slmellon Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 I use a slightly different method... I mix wood glue with backing soda (sodium bicarbonate) and apply that to the base. I then sprinkle that with modelling snow and the result looks quite nice. This is an excellent tutorial on making snow. that or white cornstarch. pva glue dip and go. repeat as necessary. Ive seen something on yutube about reapplying glue after the dip to set it. It shouldnt effect the paint, it'll just look like snow on their feet. btw...nice link, good call gerwulf!!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/213582-snow-on-bases/#findComment-2541631 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CainTheHunter Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 I recently watched a Youtube video, where the guy said that the glue is not necessary. All You have to do is paint a blob with skull white and the dip the mini in modelling snow. Given that my Gale force 9 and Army painter snow tubes are still out somewhere I have not tried this yet, but I wil give it a chance. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/213582-snow-on-bases/#findComment-2541652 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 You can use Elmer's white glue and get good results. Put some on the base then use a toothpick to spread it around the base and the models feet. Then dip in modeling snow and shake off the excess. I have been told that wood glue becomes yellow with time. Have you heard anything like this? That is why I was told to mix in Skull White. The wood glues Ive used in the past turned to a butterscotch color within minutes, as they dried. Elmers glue is not a wood glue however. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/213582-snow-on-bases/#findComment-2541686 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Johnson the 3rd jr Posted October 21, 2010 Author Share Posted October 21, 2010 Ok guys, I am little confused here. I have grey bases. If I liberally coat them with normal elmer's glue (which dries clear) and then cover them well with snow flock, are you telling me they won't turn out alright? I'd rather not have to carefully paint around the feet of 45+ minatures with white colored glue. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/213582-snow-on-bases/#findComment-2542019 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerwulf Posted October 21, 2010 Share Posted October 21, 2010 Ok guys, I am little confused here. I have grey bases. If I liberally coat them with normal elmer's glue (which dries clear) and then cover them well with snow flock, are you telling me they won't turn out alright? I'd rather not have to carefully paint around the feet of 45+ minatures with white colored glue. If you do it correctly, then it will turn out well. you probably have to add several layers to get a proper result. Again, I would add backing soda to your glue because the result is so much better. Snow bases Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/213582-snow-on-bases/#findComment-2542270 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead01 Posted October 22, 2010 Share Posted October 22, 2010 Heres some good help. These guys are the best! http://massivevoodoo.blogspot.com/2010/01/...ow-on-base.html Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/213582-snow-on-bases/#findComment-2542377 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WG Vrox Posted October 22, 2010 Share Posted October 22, 2010 I used molding glue let it set then painted it with white. You can use a dry brush method if you like which is what I did or just water it down and smear it on. Both methods work pretty well. RP with snow base Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/213582-snow-on-bases/#findComment-2542393 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Wilhelm Posted October 22, 2010 Share Posted October 22, 2010 The wood glues Ive used in the past turned to a butterscotch color within minutes, as they dried. Elmers glue is not a wood glue however. Okay, good to know. I wonder if we have it in Australia? Is it better than wood glue, other than not changing colour? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/213582-snow-on-bases/#findComment-2542445 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Mage Posted October 22, 2010 Share Posted October 22, 2010 The wood glues Ive used in the past turned to a butterscotch color within minutes, as they dried. Elmers glue is not a wood glue however. Okay, good to know. I wonder if we have it in Australia? Is it better than wood glue, other than not changing colour? Regular Elmers glue is a striaight ivory white, it dries in about 5 minutes but until then is a small paste. It turns into an acrylic as it dries and is reasonably strong- but not by any means strong as super glue, or even wood glue. You probly have something similar in australia, its often used in schools for arts and crafts projects- where it can be thinly applied and then covered in glitter, pasted on feathers, or other peices of paper for collages. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/213582-snow-on-bases/#findComment-2542447 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Wilhelm Posted October 22, 2010 Share Posted October 22, 2010 Regular Elmers glue is a striaight ivory white, it dries in about 5 minutes but until then is a small paste. It turns into an acrylic as it dries and is reasonably strong- but not by any means strong as super glue, or even wood glue. You probly have something similar in australia, its often used in schools for arts and crafts projects- where it can be thinly applied and then covered in glitter, pasted on feathers, or other peices of paper for collages. Okay. I'll have a poke around and if it is easy, grab some. I don't think I 'need' it though. We use wood glue, besides for basing, also for gluing in washers under the bases. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/213582-snow-on-bases/#findComment-2542455 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfpack Posted October 22, 2010 Share Posted October 22, 2010 try hitting up an art store...for PVA glue...or gesso...also you can order Woodland Scenics online...one bottle of their paste is like 8 USD and it covers about 50 or so bases Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/213582-snow-on-bases/#findComment-2542469 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CainTheHunter Posted October 22, 2010 Share Posted October 22, 2010 Regular Elmers glue is a striaight ivory white, it dries in about 5 minutes but until then is a small paste. It turns into an acrylic as it dries and is reasonably strong- but not by any means strong as super glue, or even wood glue. You probly have something similar in australia, its often used in schools for arts and crafts projects- where it can be thinly applied and then covered in glitter, pasted on feathers, or other peices of paper for collages. Okay. I'll have a poke around and if it is easy, grab some. I don't think I 'need' it though. We use wood glue, besides for basing, also for gluing in washers under the bases. Wilhelm, I was wondering - perhaps in Your lands it's called kangoroo glue? No surprise, wooden glue doesn't ring a bell, given there are no trees, but at least You got plenty of roos and those small fluffy teddy bears from space :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/213582-snow-on-bases/#findComment-2542576 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Wilhelm Posted October 22, 2010 Share Posted October 22, 2010 Wilhelm, I was wondering - perhaps in Your lands it's called kangoroo glue? No surprise, wooden glue doesn't ring a bell, given there are no trees, but at least You got plenty of roos and those small fluffy teddy bears from space :P Roo glue? Yeah we use it all the time. Usually to stick cheeky Latvian's fingers to their keyboards :) Space Koalas are one of the creatures the Old Ones left us to defend the C'tan. If the Void Dragon breaks free from Mars, come to Australia and the Space Koalas will provide you with sanctuary. Just remember to bring some ozols with you ~ we don't have any trees you see ;) Allegedly Phil Kelly came here on holidays and that is how he got the idea for TWC, with all the Roo Races we have. :D Now this surprised my Latvian friend, when she learnt they are not actually bears, even though they do [mistakenly] get called Koala Bears. Sorry Lāčplēsis, you'll not be able to bear-rip them :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/213582-snow-on-bases/#findComment-2542593 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Johnson the 3rd jr Posted October 22, 2010 Author Share Posted October 22, 2010 Roo glue. Heh. Anywhoo, I forgot to ask earlier - flock is cheaper at non-gaming-miniatures stores like model train stores. Is this also the case online? What I mean is, are there online train/whatever hobby sites that have useable flock for cheaper? Thanks guys. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/213582-snow-on-bases/#findComment-2542947 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ullr Direfang Posted October 23, 2010 Share Posted October 23, 2010 Probably wont help much but I have done this: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/213582-snow-on-bases/#findComment-2543324 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Johnson the 3rd jr Posted October 30, 2010 Author Share Posted October 30, 2010 Quick update here. I acquired a large container of Woodlands Scenics Snow from online from ebay. The Woodland Scenics website had the snow for the same price, but their shipping was three times higher, believe it or not. Anyway, I now have a great deal of snow flock, for like 1/10th of the price per volume of the GW version. Because I suck at painting, I am going with the PVA glue and flock method. When I get around to doing it I'll post some pics... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/213582-snow-on-bases/#findComment-2549348 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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